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[RAIDEN1]

Just read an article (unless someone else has reported it here as well already) that Sony of Japan have filed a patent to allow a console to emulate across PS1 to 3, via cloud gaming, I know this is somewhat already covered with PS-Now but the fact that it also covers the PS1 and 2 is big news in of itself....so basically a "virtual machine" would mimic the operating systems of the PS-1/2 and 3 ..

More here: https://www.psu.com/news/sony-files-a-patent-to-enable-game-emulation-across-ps1-ps2-ps3-titles/

 

[OnThePathToWisdom]

via cloud gaming

 

[GHG]

If they can do it via cloud gaming then just allow people to do it natively ffs.

The emulators are clearly there, stop being dicks about it.

 

[the_master]

I would rather this virtual machine be inside of my PS5, and not in a cloud server

 

[Rean no Kiseki]

Maybe it's gonna be like the SNES/NES emulation on Switch?

 

[Perrott]

WELCOME TO THE FUTURE

 

[kraspkibble]

i can understand PS3 emulation being difficult but there is no excuse for PS1/PS2 emulation not being possible on PS5.

 

[yurinka]

Let's hope they patented this because they plan to emulate them both locally in the PS5 console and through streaming in PS Now, but only patented the PS Now part because emulating games locally is already patented because both them and others did it many times before.

If it isn't the case, let's hope that this patent means PS5 will emulate PS1, PS2 and PS3 locally and then you'll be able to stream it to other screen through Remote Play.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

If they can do it via cloud gaming then just allow people to do it natively ffs.

The emulators are clearly there, stop being dicks about it.

The emulators are clearly there because I got them installed on my computer.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

so PSNow is coming to PS5. Shocking.

 

[Barlow]

 

[Clear]

Isn't it just a giveaway that the plan is to offer the PS1/2/3 back catalog on every platform, not just PS5?

 

[Silent Duck]

 

[Andodalf]

So PS5 won’t have back compact for PS1-3 because it’ll compete with their cloud service?

 

[Timberwolf25]

It's probably so they can charge you $$$$ to play those emulated PS1-3 titles via the cloud.

 

[Zekra Dezivad]

Well, via PSNow they can bring game emulation to PS4 and PC too.
I hope that PS5 will have a local compatibility too one day

 

[lastmessiah]

What do you guys have against cloud gaming? Is it just kneejerk Luddite nonsense?

 

[xiseerht]

So close to what we want and yet so far away.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

I’m pretty much positive that PS1/2/3 will come to PS5.

But not like this. No. That’s vile. I would rather watch LetsPlays on YouTube than this. Ew.

 

[johntown]

Hooray for probably featureless emulation that only emulates native resoltuion and you have to pay a monthly fee for. No thanks! I will stick to emulating on my PC until they at least provide upscaled options. If it provides at least some sort of upscale then I support it.

 

[Miles708]

Happiness one moment...

emulate across PS1 to 3, via cloud gaming

... desperation the next.

Sony, what are you doing.

 

[Sony]

I would rather this virtual machine be inside of my PS5, and not in a cloud server

But then they won't be able to charge you a monthly fee for using it.

 

[cm osi]

If they can do it via cloud gaming then just allow people to do it natively ffs.

The emulators are clearly there, stop being dicks about it.

if they do via cloud gaming then it's a service you'll be paying for. if you can do it locally sony doesn't get a dime

 

[Mokus]

Oh no... If true (cloud emulation), I'm going to have a heart attack.

 

[LordCBH]

Me: fuck yeah!
“Cloud gaming”
Me:..........FUCK

 

[Northeastmonk]

I wonder what will happen to all the digital PS1-PS3 games then. I get sick of hearing that the PSP/Vita/PS3 PSN store is getting shut down. It nerves me that no one can address that. Sony should say something, otherwise it’s a bunch of talk by GameStop employees talking about its future.

 

[Andrew Evenstar]

even if i have to re-buy ps1-2 games on my ps5 --- i don't care lol -- let me play these older games natively on the machine!!

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Cloud gaming huh i sub to ps now last night, as i got itch to replay RC crack in time it was fine but visuals where bad on my 4k TV really bad i couldn't play for very long Sony have such good library of old games the cloud just does not do these games justice...

 

[Blond]

i can understand PS3 emulation being difficult but there is no excuse for PS1/PS2 emulation not being possible on PS5.

With the strides something like PCSX3 I refuse to believe Sony's own in house engineering team can't build an emulator, especially considering it's playing some games 4k60. Sony could easily just their work and pump money and man power into making it work on the PS5, I once heard a rumor they were working with them but I doubt that's true.

 

[Shakka43]

What do you guys have against cloud gaming? Is it just kneejerk Luddite nonsense?

I think the downside of emulation through the cloud is that they will most likely offer 1:1 copies of the original games instead of enhanced emulation taking advantage of the new hardware/software offered by the PS5.

 

[Quasicat]

Cloud gaming huh i sub to ps now last night, as i got itch to replay RC crack in time it was fine but visuals where bad on my 4k TV really bad i couldn't play for very long Sony have such good library of old games the cloud just does not do these games justice...

I did the exact same thing in January and was so disappointed for the video quality I was getting (even though my isp hits the minimum requirements.
I hopped on Amazon in April, with the extra money from the government and picked up a new Super Slim for $300. It looks absolutely amazing on my 4K set. I know people think it’s a waste since next gen is coming, but this way I am guaranteed to be able to play the PS3 classics.

 

[EverydayBeast]

If people still want to play old games (Why would you want to?) SONY has to make backwards compatibility happen, you don't buy a new console to play old games.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

With the strides something like PCSX3 I refuse to believe Sony's own in house engineering team can't build an emulator, especially considering it's playing some games 4k60. Sony could easily just their work and pump money and man power into making it work on the PS5, I once heard a rumor they were working with them but I doubt that's true.

As hard as it is believe someone actually modded a ps3 emulator on ps4. I had augment with a guy on here about this and couldn't believe myself. So yeah its possible.

 

[Quasicat]

With the strides something like PCSX3 I refuse to believe Sony's own in house engineering team can't build an emulator, especially considering it's playing some games 4k60. Sony could easily just their work and pump money and man power into making it work on the PS5, I once heard a rumor they were working with them but I doubt that's true.

What has me concerned is how not every PS4 game is backwards compatible and it seems like it will take a while to get most of them there due to testing. If it is taking this long for PS4 titles, it would definitely take a lot longer for the previous three systems.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

I did the exact same thing in January and was so disappointed for the video quality I was getting (even though my isp hits the minimum requirements.
I hopped on Amazon in April, with the extra money from the government and picked up a new Super Slim for $300. It looks absolutely amazing on my 4K set. I know people think it’s a waste since next gen is coming, but this way I am guaranteed to be able to play the PS3 classics.

I have i wired 80meg connection so yeah not speed. I think the stream is 720p max, i am tempted to go get old ps3.

 

[Garibaldi]

I'd actually be ok with it being cloud based as long as they don't expect me to pay a sub/buy my library again (haha, like that'll happen). I still have the PS3 connected up for the MGS/Dead Space series, I'd love to retire it if it's the only way to emulate it. It's not as if my PS5 will ever not be net connected.

 

[Kokoloko85]

I don’t think its possible to play from Playstation 1 disc’s. No cd player in the PS5..

Pretty sure Xbox only plays like 30 something OG xbox games and cant play them from disc either.

Its not exactly what I want but at least its something To let me play the older games though.

And if its a part of PS Now, Ill subscribe day 1. Especially if I can download PS1 and PS2 games like Ps Now lets you with PS4 games.
Ill take access to all the old PS1 and PS2 and PS3 library for under £10

But damn, I really want to be able to download PS1, PS2, and PS3 games onto PS5.
Fingers crossed that feature is there

 

[DryPancakes]

Would it be too much to ask to be able to play my already existing ps3 library on ps5?

Answer is yes, it's too much to ask.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Not interested with my shitty Internet connection and wanting to play many "fast" games from the previous consoles.

 

[Birdo]

There are phones that can emulate PS1 and PS2 games. Why can't a "Next Gen" console?

I'm guessing they can, but Sony just want to push PSNow.

 

[Ten_Fold]

Sony probably was like, well we COULD let them use their old ps1-3 disc on the ps5, but it’s much better if we can charge them via the cloud.

 

[sublimit]

Lol i will never pay for services like PSNow (or Gamepass.) They can take their streaming BC and shove it in their ass.

 

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[sendit]

What do you guys have against cloud gaming? Is it just kneejerk Luddite nonsense?

I personally have nothing against it and believe it is where we are headed towards.

However, it is not ready for prime time. The backend infrastructure physically just isn’t there from server to an end users home/device. To simplify, the latency introduced with cloud gaming is just bad.

 

[Miles708]

Even accounting for ps3 difficulties, ps1, ps2 and ps4 emulation must be on-console and via disk, no online required at all, to be acceptable.
We've come so far, and yet we always need to beg for the same things.

 

[sendit]

Even accounting for ps3 difficulties, ps1, ps2 and ps4 emulation must be on-console and via disk, no online required at all, to be acceptable.
We've come so far, and yet we always need to beg for the same things.

No. The disc medium needs to die.

 

[wvnative]

Sony allows PS4 games from PSNow to be downloaded and run locally,

I think the same will happen with PS1, PS2, and PS3 games or there was no reason to mention virtual machine.

The whole point of a virtual machine is to run another system within a system.

I just hope I can play my disk based PS2/PS3 games also.

You can also run PS2 games locally on PSnow

 

[The Alien]

I never doubted the capability of Sony to achieve backwards compatibility.

I was skeptical that Sony wouldnt do it without putting monetization at the forefront.

 

[Rattlehead121]

Let me use my own fucking disks you greedy fucks.

 

[kuncol02]

I don’t think its possible to play from Playstation 1 disc’s. No cd player in the PS5..

Pretty sure Xbox only plays like 30 something OG xbox games and cant play them from disc either.

There is no technical problem to make bluray drive which reads CD disc. So that's not argument at all.
XBix plays only 30 games, because MS decided to work on backward compatibility of XSX. AFAR Phill was talking about that some time ago. All that games can by played from disc. To be precise when you put disc into your console it's downloaded from servers. It works exactly same as X360 games, disc is only key to run game.