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AMD Oberon PlayStation 5 SoC Die Delidded and Pictured

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Remember this was discussed to death before and the consensus was that no it didn't? Well...

 

[Tripolygon]

There is another of the same thread which was locked.

 

[Chiggs]

This is fantastic news. I wasn't enjoying my PS5 as much as I could have been, but now that I know it has this important console war checklist item feature, I can rest easy.

 

[Bryank75]

There was always a reason that it punched above its weight....

 

[Insane Metal]

There is another of the same thread which was locked.

Oops sorry

 

[Rivet]

Remember this was discussed to death before and the consensus was that no it didn't? Well...

It's probably the reason why PS5 fares so well in high performance / 120 fps modes like in CoD or DMC5. With such framerates, CPU latency is what matters most. A shared L3 cache is a killer feature for those 120 fps modes.

 

[mansoor1980]

why didnt microsoft think of this for xsx?

 

[BennyBlanco]

Zen 4 coming in less than 6 months.

 

[01011001]

It's probably the reason why PS5 fares so well in high performance / 120 fps modes like in CoD. With such framerates, CPU latency is what matters. A shared L3 cache is a killer feature.

either that, or the fact that the Xbox version of Warzone runs at a vastly higher resolution... but who knows? and in Cold War where the resolution isn't much different the XBox version runs smoother in 120hz mode

I wonder why the system on the right (PS5) runs smoother

 

[killatopak]

why didnt microsoft think of this for xsx?

Maybe the timing wasn’t right during development? XSX was reportedly ready a lot earlier than PS5 devkits so maybe that was the reason?

 

[Rivet]

either that, or the fact that the Xbox version of Warzone runs at a vastly higher resolution... but who knows? and in Cold War where the resolution isn't much different the XBox version runs smoother in 120hz mode

No, in DMC5, same resolution, PS5 runs slightly better in 120 fps mode. Same thing in CoD cold war, as far as I remember.

 

[Unknown?]

Zen 4 coming in less than 6 months.

Might as well wait for Zen 5.

 

[01011001]

No, in DMC5, same resolution, PS5 runs slightly better in 120 fps mode. Same thing in CoD cold war, as far as I remember.

nope cold war runs better on Xbox, DMC5 is the only real example of same res + better 120hz performance on PS5.

Warzone is the CoD example that runs smoother on PS5 but that's because it runs back compat PS4 code with lower settings and a way lower dynamic res.

 

[TaiLopezFan]

nope cold war runs better on Xbox, DMC5 is the only real example of same res+better 120hz performance on PS5.

Warzone is the CoD example that runs smoother on PS5 but that's because it runs back compat PS4 code with lower settings and a way lower dynamic res.

Cold War runs better at 120FPS on PS5

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

Might as well wait for Zen 5.

Zen 6 will blow it out the water.

 

[bender]

why didnt microsoft think of this for xsx?

 

[01011001]

Cold War runs better at 120FPS on PS5

you might be right, I think I remember this wrong, it was the RT mode that ran better on Xbox... ok I was wrong

 

[Rivet]

Cold War runs better at 120FPS on PS5

Yes it does.

https://ibb.co/pbtgCcN

Edit : right, my bad, this one is Warzone, brb looking for Cold War

 

[01011001]

Err, not according to DF, that's not even close actually

https://ibb.co/pbtgCcN

that's not cold war that's Warzone. and again, Warzone runs at WAAAAY lower settings on PS5. way lower resolution and lower settings ontop of that

 

[TransTrender]

My life has been validated with this news
Praise Glass!

 

[Elbow Identity Shallow]

I think this was always suspected wasn't it. As mentioned above it's not infinity cache as I'd imagine even if it was possible at the time then the cost would have been far too high for a console although it does probably come from the same place.
I know that AMD had said previously that some features were for RDNA2 came from the work with the console partners, I wonder if maybe that's where the concept of the infinity cache came from and why this is exclusive to PS5?

 

[Corndog]

There was always a reason that it punched above its weight....

Well it does weigh a lot.

 

[Rivet]

that's not cold war that's Warzone. and again, Warzone runs at WAAAAY lower settings on PS5. way lower resolution and lower settings ontop of that

Right but Cold War runs slightly better at 120 fps on PS5 too. Check this video (01:20 or 05:20), although that's closer obviously :

 

[gypsygib]

Might as well wait for Zen 5.

Zen 6 will blow it out the water.

Only way to future proof is to never buy any presently available hardware.

 

[Corndog]

Maybe the timing wasn’t right during development? XSX was reportedly ready a lot earlier than PS5 devkits so maybe that was the reason?

Not true. Ps5 devkit came out first.

 

[01011001]

Right but Cold War runs better at 120 fps on PS5 too. Check this video :

I already corrected myself a few comments up.

the thing is tho, there is no way this is CPU related. CoD games aren't very CPU intensive. I can run CoD at higher framerates than either console and I only have a Zen+ CPU in my PC, and Zen+ is way worse than Zen 2 for high framerate gaming.

this is unoptimized code that either doesn't utilize enough of the available cores correctly or has other issues.

 

[SlimySnake]

Red Gaming Tech redeemed. Maybe now he can buy some shampoo.

 

[3liteDragon]

So RGT was right this whole time, lmao. Video's from 9 months ago.

 

[kyliethicc]

I doubt it. Doesn't look like it at least.

 

[Iced Arcade]

Lol don't die on this sword again guys

 

[3liteDragon]

I doubt it. Doesn't look like it at least.

NX Gamer said he'll look into it so we'll what happens, but if it's confirmed, RGT would be redeemed.

 

[Stooky]

either that, or the fact that the Xbox version of Warzone runs at a vastly higher resolution... but who knows? and in Cold War where the resolution isn't much different the XBox version runs smoother in 120hz mode

I wonder why the system on the right (PS5) runs smoother

I think both versions are running in bc mode. We’ll know for sure this fall with they release the console native apps.

 

[01011001]

I doubt it. Doesn't look like it at least.

where's that image from?

 

[TLZ]

 

[LiquidMetal14]

This means a lot of some

 

[Bryank75]

Well it does weigh a lot.

It does, thankfully it is not meant to be a portable.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Well I hope we get an answer to this

 

[Imtjnotu]

This thread is gonna be spicy...

 

[Mr Moose]

either that, or the fact that the Xbox version of Warzone runs at a vastly higher resolution... but who knows? and in Cold War where the resolution isn't much different the XBox version runs smoother in 120hz mode

I wonder why the system on the right (PS5) runs smoother

Warzone is a PS4/Xbox One game, and Cold War doesn't run better in 120Hz mode, where did you get that from?

 

[Dr Bass]

The XSX has a bit better GPU than the PS5. It has absolutely no bearing on how good the games are going to be this gen.

Let's all move on.

 

[Elbow Identity Shallow]

The Series X has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

 

[Three]

Thread of shame with the regulars

Ps5 may support zen 3 feature

https://www.google.com/amp/s/adoredtv.com/amd-zen-3-reveal-liveblog/amp/ https://m.facebook.com/RedGamingTech/ About zen 3 unified cache and source According to Redgamingtech who is pretty much well known. On hes youtube around 21.25 he states that ps5 is using zen 2 cores but has 8mb L3...

www.neogaf.com

 

[TLZ]

Can someone explain what this does?

 

[JackMcGunns]

Can someone explain what this does?

No one knows or is even sure. Warrior fodder

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

You get a Series X for the POWER, a PS5 for the MOVIES, and a Nintendo Switch for the GAMES.

And a PC for all of the above

 

[bender]

Can someone explain what this does?

 

[Hawking Radiation]

No one knows or is even sure. Warrior fodder

I have to agree.

Both machines are capable and have received good feedback from developers. They're happy and that's all that matters.

 

[Chris_Rivera]

PS5 secret sauce FTW

 

[Elbow Identity Shallow]

Can someone explain what this does?

Idiots guide to Infinity Cache. Remember this isn't infinity cache as the amount certainly won't be identical although it is very much a part of how things will be done moving forwards along with other things DLSS, it's about smart technology.

 

[Hobbygaming]

There was always a reason that it punched above its weight....

Yep and as much as it gets crap, I believe the SSD and IO/decompression for fast memory transfer is Sony's Ace card