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Game Dev Shigeru Miyamoto Used To Smoke In The Star Fox Office

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Breaking news at 10: people used to smoke in their offices, cars, restaurants, bars, their homes, hospitals, stores, while fueling their cars, at the park, or any other place you can think of.
 

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So did Hideo before Konami got tired of his shit.



(in my head canon)
 

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It doesn't surprise me, Japan has a big smoking problem I think, especially among office workers. When I was visiting there, I was amazed at just how many people were smoking outside their office, or inside those smoking booths they have. I am grateful they had those smoking booths, that way people like me who don't smoke can avoid the smell.

What amused me was when they originally banned smoking in Chiyodaku - it was very Japanese, because it was "banned" - but there was no penalty. If a policeman saw you smoking they could ask you to stop ... and that was about it.

The amazing thing was that it actually worked, and the vast majority of people did stop smoking on the streets. I think there are actual penalties now, but at that point it was basically "please do this".
 

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While I enjoy a cigarette every now and then (use to be a daily smoker for 10 years) I think the recent shift in people's perception of tobacco smoking as a negative is a good thing. The people who have a menstrual cycle over it (cigarettes) need to STFU.

Oh, and weed is awesome.

The sudden public turn on cigarettes always struck me as a nudge + propaganda. I grew up with parents who smoked at least a pack a day (each), and it wasn't until around 2000 that the stupid things really began to stink, IMO. I never noticed it growing up, and, man, most people's parents smoked anyway. It might have been because I moved across the US to Seattle that I really began to notice just how bad cigarettes smell. It just strikes me as something that they might have added to turn people off from smoking.
 
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The sudden public turn on cigarettes always struck me as a nudge + propaganda. I grew up with parents who smoked at least a pack a day (each), and it wasn't until around 2000 that the stupid things really began to stink, IMO. I never noticed it growing up, and, man, most people's parents smoked anyway. It might have been because I moved across the US to Seattle that I really began to notice just how bad cigarettes smell. It just strikes me as something that they might have added to turn people off from smoking.
There's a SHIT load of tobacco lobbyists in the US, that's why you never hear a president speak of the ills of the tobacco industry and how they must be brought to justice for all the lives they're responsible for (knowingly lying to people about it's damaging effects for decades). But constantly talk about the war on drugs and how we must get rid of all the bad drugs that don't kill nearly as many people as cigarettes, combined. Tobacco companies make more money now than they ever have.
 

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I visited Tokyo for 11 days in 2001 for work. At the time I was smoking about a pack a day. I remember being amazed by how many people smoked in Tokyo. Smoking in the street, smoking in the office (in the designated smoking section), people were even smoking on elevators. Going out at night to a restaurant and bar hopping literally everyone was smoking. As a smoker it was great, but as a non-smoker the overwhelming acceptance of smoking in Tokyo had to have been terrible. Luckily I quit shortly after returning home.
 
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I remember watching a Youtube video where a casino staff room has an indoor smoking room. That certainly mind boggled me since it has been illegal to smoke indoors since 2007. In Britain at least.

Either way, nothing too outrages. Pretty amusing more than anything.
 
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I remember watching a Youtube video where a casino staff room has an indoor smoking room. That certainly mind boggled me since it has been illegal to smoke indoors since 2007. In Britain at least.

Either way, nothing too outrages. Pretty amusing more than anything.
You can still smoke almost anywhere in any Vegas casino to this day. I find it both terrible and awesome at the same time.
 

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Show us on the doll where the marijuanas touched you.

It didn't. I smoked pot a couple of times when I was younger... but that's not the point.

I just don't get the current propaganda on weed (including on the media) and the obvious stupid denial on its bad effects to people's health.

You're inhaling smoke, man, there's no mental gymnastics that can change that, it's prone to cause respiratory and cardiac diseases.
 
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It doesn't surprise me, Japan has a big smoking problem I think, especially among office workers. When I was visiting there, I was amazed at just how many people were smoking outside their office, or inside those smoking booths they have. I am grateful they had those smoking booths, that way people like me who don't smoke can avoid the smell.

I feel like that's what led to the trend of when you buy something from Japan on eBay and they use a pack of smokes as a size comparison in the pictures.

I used to collect DBZ action figures like 15-20 years ago and every single auction listing would do that.
 

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Yeah, smoking is bad.
I was lucky to see Isao Takaha at the premiere of The Tale of Princess Kaguya before he passed due to lung cancer.


Don't smoke and don't be peer pressured into it, it's an addictive substance and you will spiral downwards to it, it doesn't enable creativity at all.
 

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It didn't. I smoked pot a couple of times when I was younger... but that's not the point.

I just don't get the current propaganda on weed (including on the media) and the obvious stupid denial on its bad effects to health.

You're inhaling smoke, man, there's no mental gymnastics that can change that.
I never said it was harmless.

The current propaganda? Are you serious? What about the racist propaganda from the thirties that's been perpetuated to this day, less so admittedly, but still.

The truth is that it's not nearly as bad as you think or want it to be, there's no mental gymnastics that can change that.
 

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Sakurai must've been smoking heroin or something when he developed Smash Ultimate.
It's all wrong, what a mess, fuck Pikachu.
 

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Well that escalated somewhat.

Ok, so what's the view on vaping?

If you're gonna smoke then smoke, vaping is the smoking version of wearing a fake nose ring to school and then taking it out on the bus ride home so mom doesn't get mad at you.

This hot take brought to you by Expand Kong's Stupid Bullshit For Nobodies
 

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I never said it was harmless.

The current propaganda? Are you serious? What about the racist propaganda from the thirties that's been perpetuated to this day, less so admittedly, but still.

The truth is that it's not nearly as bad as you think or want it to be, there's no mental gymnastics that can change that.

What the hell are you talking about? What racist propaganda? I'm not from the US and am not aware of it, even so, this is completely out of the discussion.

Demonizing cigarettes while at the same time praising weed when both can cause the same diseases. Doesn't sound like hypocrisy to you?

Then you get current movies, series, twitter and even games with a "weed is good/cool" narrative... You don't think that's propaganda?
 

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What the hell are you talking about? What racist propaganda? I'm not from the US and am not aware of it, even so, this is completely out of the discussion.

Demonizing cigarettes while at the same time praising weed when both can cause the same diseases. Doesn't sound like hypocrisy to you?

Then you get current movies, series, twitter and even games with a "weed is good/cool" narrative... You don't think that's propaganda?
Google William Randolph Hearst Marijuana and tell me that's not racist.

Also, you don't have to smoke THC you can take it topically or orally. And we both know you can't do the same with nicotine and have the same effect as smoking.

Show me the concrete evidence that states cannabis use causes cancer like tobacco use does, I dare you. I sure as hell can't find any, those scientist must be spitting pro weed propaganda, huh?
 

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Google William Randolph Hearst Marijuana and tell me that's not racist.

Also, you don't have to smoke THC you can take it topically or orally. And we both know you can't do the same with nicotine and have the same effect as smoking.

Show me the concrete evidence that states cannabis use causes cancer like tobacco use does, I dare you. I sure as hell can't find any, those scientist must be spitting pro weed propaganda, huh?

You don't have to read much further than the first couple of paragraphs to find the info. Funny enough, you won't find many US papers on it, I wonder why... You're welcome :)

 
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You don't have to read much further than the first couple of paragraphs to find the info. Funny enough, you won't find many US papers on it, I wonder why... You're welcome :)

the sheer process of smoking is unhealthy, but there is a difference in inhaling first hand chemical smoke vs. staying in front of the factory and getting a little second hand smoke.
not to say long term cannabis consume wont do anything, but cigarettes are definitely much more unhealthy.
 
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You don't have to read much further than the first couple of paragraphs to find the info. Funny enough, you won't find many US papers on it, I wonder why... You're welcome :)

All it says is that long term cannabis use increases the risk, which I never argued, where as with tobacco you're almost guaranteed to get cancer because your average tobacco smoker smokes way, way more than your average cannabis smoker. HUGE difference. You conviniently ignore that.

Nice try though. Now I've read your "evidence", have you read up on the racist propaganda from the 30's or did you conviniently ignore that too?
 
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All it says is that long term cannabis use increases the risk, which I never argued, where as with tobacco you're almost guaranteed to get cancer because your average tobacco smoker smokes way, way more than your average cannabis smoker. HUGE difference. You conviniently ignore that.

Nice try though. Now I've read your evidence, have you read up on the racist propaganda from the 30's or did you conviniently ignore that too?

the sheer process of smoking is unhealthy, but there is a difference in inhaling first hand chemical smoke vs. staying in front of the factory and getting a little second hand smoke.
not to say long term cannabis consume wont do anything, but cigarettes are definitely much more unhealthy.

I don't think it's that different...

The chance of getting lung cancer from cigarettes on the average smoker is from 9 to 15%.

The study on weed suggests up to the same percentages. Not good odds at all.

People usually claim the number of deaths, but fail to realize that it's dependent on how widespread is the consumption, not the individual risk (which is what should count). The odds are terrible on both, we only get to hear it about one of them, though, why is that?


About William Randolph, I did read. Yeah, government passing laws and propaganda to influence public opinion to their own interests, wow, what a shock. How is that different than denying bad effects to pass the narrative that weed is good?
 

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Aout William Randolph, I did read. Yeah, government passing laws and propaganda to influence public opinion to their own interests, wow, what a shock. How is that different than denying bad effects to pass the narrative that weed is good?
So you didn't read. Got it.
 

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Then you get current movies, series, twitter and even games with a "weed is good/cool" narrative... You don't think that's propaganda?
lol that's called marketing. if it was propoganda it would be pushing a political narrative. "weed is legal, let's market it" is not a narrative, it is a fact. also on the scale of things being glamorized in movies, i put weed waaaay down the list below "Surveillance State", "Military Might", "Anti-Family Values", "Abortion", "Nihilism", etc. if u pearl clutching over weed your priorities are wack.

that said, everyone used to smoke, everywhere. i was watching Pink Panther movies and he was smoking in the bathroom getting ready for bed. the tobacco companies used to market to kids with cartoons, i don't see how Vice documentaries and Netflix specials are really any worse.
 
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So you didn't read. Got it.
Then please send me a link with proper information instead of the lots of nonsense about how weed would make better fuel than oil.

From what I've read, they used the narrative that black people were selling drugs to white kids in schools and that was leading them into criminality, which then became the slogan to fight drugs. Whereas, at the same time, there were huge interests in industrialization and the need for workers to be more productive.

What do you take from it? Government/elite influenced public opinion to get what they wanted and used black people and weed as the scapegoat. If that's not what that was all about, then again, please send me a link with the proper information.
 

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lol that's called marketing. if it was propoganda it would be pushing a political narrative. "weed is legal, let's market it" is not a narrative, it is a fact. also on the scale of things being glamorized in movies, i put weed waaaay down the list below "Surveillance State", "Military Might", "Anti-Family Values", "Abortion", "Nihilism", etc. if u pearl clutching over weed your priorities are wack.

that said, everyone used to smoke, everywhere. i was watching Pink Panther movies and he was smoking in the bathroom getting ready for bed. the tobacco companies used to market to kids with cartoons, i don't see how Vice documentaries and Netflix specials are really any worse.

How can you differentiate marketing from propaganda here when it's trying to pass an idea ("weed is good/cool, use it") while not providing information on bad and side effects?

If it's trying to shape public opinion, then it's propaganda. Marketing would be the company that sells the weed marketing and advertising their product, which is not the case.