• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
  • The Politics forum has been nuked. Please do not bring political discussion to the rest of the site, or you will be removed. Thanks.

|OT| Shenmue III |OT| The Dream is Real

Enjay

Banned
Feb 18, 2009
3,392
2,701
1,150
My thoughts too. The story of revenge on Lan Di is still no closer to being resolved, this game might get slammed in reviews and underperform enough to not get any further entries and we could be back where we were 18 years ago. I just hope they can finish the story somehow with DLC if no further entries are supported. Cant see another one getting kickstarted.
And to think I once dreamed of making this OT. Well it was a long slow disappointing ride and I feel like we're all poorer for the experience.....
 
  • Triggered
Reactions: Freeman76

Kazza

Member
Oct 6, 2018
4,058
9,167
750
I have been enjoying just wandering around admiring scenery and gambling in Bailu Village. Got a Nozomi capsule toy on my first try.

Please let us know (without spoilers) how the larger town area (Niaowu?) is once you get to it. I'm hearing that Shenmue 3 is a combination of 1 and 2 in terms of atmosphere, with Bailu feeling like the first game, and Niaowu like the second. Personally, I'm most looking forward to the town area. My game is currently downloading, but I don't think my laptop will be able to run it properly, so I might have to wait until next year to play.
 

Kazza

Member
Oct 6, 2018
4,058
9,167
750
First youtube review (or more like first thoughts) from a Shenmue fan:



Positive thoughts after having played the first few hours. In short, it's Shenmue!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Upsidedown Fuji

ROMhack

Member
Jul 14, 2018
3,928
4,347
735
I very much look at at least shenmue 1 as in the same exact vein as stardew, actually. Yeah, there is a story, but is the story why I or others have kept playing past that first run through? I very much doubt it. It's the living world that shenmue is famous and loved for, not the story.

Shit, I'd even cite the shitty nostalgic voice acting as a higher selling point than the story.

Shenmue 1 definitely is yeah, but not 2. That's when the story gets flowing and it seems like 3 is more of a continuation of that.

Correct if wrong
 

Constant Flux

Member
May 31, 2019
1,266
1,134
650
35
I played like 30 minutes or so of the game and I’m not sure how to feel about it. Is there a way to side-step when fighting? Red Tiger almost kicked my ass the first time I fought him. I’m a HUGE Shenmue fan and I’ve been clamoring for Shenmue 3 since 2 came out, but this game feels a bit weird. Maybe it’ll grow on me. I really want to like this game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dzab

Freeman76

Member
Apr 27, 2015
5,276
1,489
670
Essex, UK
In the trophy list there is 3 add on sections one which is called story quest pack, is much known about this? Is it possible they will add more to this game instead of making sequels? Another is called Big Merry Cruise.
 

Hostile_18

Banned
Jun 7, 2015
4,663
4,959
770
UK
Please tell me the Kickstarter PS4 client has trophies? For some reason it's not bringing up an entry/trophy list.
 

IbizaPocholo

NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Dec 1, 2014
31,232
39,110
1,415
ibiza
 

Tiamat2san

Member
Jul 3, 2016
1,717
1,946
515
46
France
So far I love it.
Taking my time, collecting herbs, capsules, chopping wood, learning my Kung fu.
I am not a fan of the endurance system though.
 

ranmafan

Member
Jun 7, 2004
2,351
641
1,540
Please tell me the Kickstarter PS4 client has trophies? For some reason it's not bringing up an entry/trophy list.

I had the same problem. However once I earned a trophy in the game, the list showed up on my trophy list. Not sure what the issue is but its happened to others,
 
  • Praise the Sun
Reactions: Hostile_18
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
Collecting the herb sets is such a great idea. It goes hand in hand with admiring the amazingly beautiful scenery, chilling out and taking in all the detail. Absolutely loving the game so far.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ProgenitorCastle

Kazza

Member
Oct 6, 2018
4,058
9,167
750
To my surprise, the game actually booted up fine on my laptop (Intel i3 with HD620 integrated graphics and 8GB of RAM). The game looks pretty decent even on the lowest setting, but the 15fps framerate makes it a little difficult to play :messenger_tears_of_joy: . Some thoughts after playing for around 30 minutes:

- I didn't like the strange fading-to-black cuts in the cut scenes. It's a little weird when it's the same two people having the same conversation at the same place and at the same time
- everyone else sounds fine, but Corey Marshall does seem to be hamming up the Ryo role a little too much, almost to the point of self-parody at times
- the whole atmosphere of the village is just great, it really does feel like a living place inhabited by real characters
- Ryo's interactions with NPCs seems just as awkward as in the original two games, but they each have a lot of personality
- I love the whole art style, even the NPCs

I really wanted to keep playing until at least one in-game day had passed, as I've heard how great Ryo and Shenhua's nightly fireside chats are really great, but my fan was blowing like crazy and the laptop was starting to burn my legs, so I shut it off for the sake of the health of my computer. As tempting as it is to power on through the 15fps framerate, I think I'm going to wait until I can play it on a proper PC next year. I'm jealous of everyone being able to play it right now.

Shenmue tip - try playing the game following the in-game schedule (i.e. play one in-game day per actual real life day). I did this with the other games, and it was a really nice way to experience the game. Shenmue is meant to be played slowly after all, and playing that way gets you into a nice, relaxing rhythm.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Thing on a Spring
Nov 5, 2019
468
503
210
Shenmue 1 definitely is yeah, but not 2. That's when the story gets flowing and it seems like 3 is more of a continuation of that.

Correct if wrong
I mean, you're not entirely wrong. I guess I just dicked around in 2 more than you? I love running the pachi games lol.

Having sat down with 3 for maybe a half hour, I gotta say...I love this. It feels like i got a new dreamcast game in 2019 and it feels good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Madevil and ROMhack
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
The nightly conversations with Shenhua are such a great part of the routine. Super heartwarming and chill. Also I'm getting a hang of the combat now and enjoying it. I do miss the grabs and throws but all the moves still feel unique and it's super satisfying when they connect. I think the new input method is really good, too. Once you get the combinations down you can launch the moves out really naturally amidst the regular blows.
 

Stuart360

Member
Sep 9, 2018
10,714
26,309
770
I wish the dialogue was a little more engaging, its very basic. Its like reading a childrens book. Also no way to skip the dialogue, you have to listen to it all.
Only played about 90mins so will carry on. Not sure what i think of it so far though.
 
Last edited:
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
I wish the dialogue was a little more engaging, its very basic. Its like reading a childrens book. Also no way to skip the dialogue, you have to listen to it all.
Only played about 90mins so will carry on. Not sure what i think of it so far though.

You can skip the dialogue with the X button (on an Xbox gamepad so I assume it's Square on Playstation).
 
Last edited:
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
Eh?, i was playing on a XB1 pad on PC and pressing every button, nothing happened. Weird.

I'm playing the same way. You can definitely skip lines with the X button. I talk to the villagers repeatedly a lot to see their responses during each investigation phase/find out the local gossip when Ryo has no objective. So I'd go nuts if you couldn't skip repeat lines.

Edit: After messing around a bit I've discovered you can only skip repeated lines. So that's probably the issue you were running into.
 
Last edited:

Komatsu

Member
Oct 17, 2016
1,730
4,011
895
Between Chicago and NYC
Guys, this is Suzuki we are talking about. Of course he wasn’t going to wrap up Shenmue’s plot. Shenmue’s kind of like Falcom’s Ys... Aldo is always going places but never gets anywhere. The journey is the whole point.

The game is super janky, like the original, but beautiful and otherwordly. I love it.
 
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
I get what Yu meant by everything being more interconnected this time. All of the systems funnel into each other much more than in I & II. Like playing the arcade games giving you capsule tickets, then complete capsule sets giving you new moves. Rather than just getting cash for them. Move scrolls are a great way to inventivize messing around with all the life sim stuff like collecting, shopping, gambling, etc because I've already gotten in a few tough fights and having good leveled up moves came in handy.

Been playing for hours today and having an awesome time. Yeah, the VA is clunky, like it was in the older games, and the lip sync isn't perfect but this is a beautiful game with a really engrossing gameplay loop that rewards players that take the time to adsorb all the fine detail.

I missed that Shenmue feeling of planning your day out & progressing in martial arts while you push forward the story.

edit: Arcade games actually give you a different kind of ticket I was just remembering that wrong because Ryo says "capsule ticket" every time at the machine lol. but my overall point about the interconnected systems still stands.
 
Last edited:

lachesis

Member
Jun 17, 2004
4,262
1,541
1,665
Guys, this is Suzuki we are talking about. Of course he wasn’t going to wrap up Shenmue’s plot. Shenmue’s kind of like Falcom’s Ys... Aldo is always going places but never gets anywhere. The journey is the whole point.

The game is super janky, like the original, but beautiful and otherwordly. I love it.

Well, as much as I'm a fan of both franchise - Ys and Shenmue - one actually is profitable and the other isn't! LOL.
Only similarity that Ryo and Adol are their womanizing aspect, that girls just line up for them. (as sailors too ... although Adol's ship always goes down... except the one from Mask of Sun)

I'm currently wrapping up my Trail in the Skies FC on Steam - but as soon as I'm done (hopefully within a week or so) - the holiday season would be a nice long vacation in Guilin China for me! Very excited.

Hopefully rest of the backer stuff (signed artbook and whatnot) would come in soon for me to help to lift the mood!
 

Komatsu

Member
Oct 17, 2016
1,730
4,011
895
Between Chicago and NYC

As someone who’s been playing Shenmue for almost two decades, I still haven’t accepted the fact that his happened.

Well, as much as I'm a fan of both franchise - Ys and Shenmue - one actually is profitable and the other isn't! LOL.
Only similarity that Ryo and Adol are their womanizing aspect, that girls just line up for them. (as sailors too ... although Adol's ship always goes down... except the one from Mask of Sun)

Well, the first Shenmue alone had a larger budget than the first 7 Ys games put together (including here the off-brand versions of Ys IV), so no huge surprise. The franchise would never make that kind of money. But yes, play it!
 

Incorruptible Gamer

Neo Member
Aug 23, 2019
19
28
150
Health = Stamina
Shenmoe developer seems want to make this game more realism... but sadly not in a graphic way.
I can understand their point of view and introduce this kind of situation but honestly it doesn't work very well with the old Shenmue mechanics, the explore phase is important and leave player's "blocking" the story to do other activities is fundamental and having to eat to restore energy makes it too frustrating sometimes, especially for all those who come from the first chapters.
 
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
Training and fights are the only big drains on stamina that I've encountered (maybe chopping wood too?) and there are fairly cheap food items that are basically a full restore so it's never prohibited my exploration. Maybe this becomes a problem later in the bigger areas? I'm still in Bailu and I can basically run around the entire village without issue.
 
Jun 24, 2019
172
230
250
The more you train the one-inch punch you increase your endurance level which increases your stamina bar and also reduces the amount spent by activities such as running.
You don't really need to have your energy topped up unless your training, sparring or expecting a fight. Don't bother eating at the end of the day when your going home as it renews the next day.

Black garlic from Shop Tao (not the veg stall) is the cheapest in Bailu and the most economical for price to energy ratio after that pears from the same shop or red peppers. Picking herbs regularly and selling them gets the most cash as well. If your spending money on capsules, better to do the save and reload after a few tries rather than spend hundreds of yuan looking for that one rare one.
Pity the gambling isn't a straight cash transaction anymore.
Once you're hitting 4 figures in your cash flow you should buy a bottle or two of the snake wine which is to be used in battle. Now I am playing on normal so I don't know if playing on hard also affects the economy or energy consumption of items.
 
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
Man, I'm loving this game so much. I've seen a few complaints about that the plot doesn't progress fast enough but the small moments are everything to me. All the nightly Shenhua conversations, getting to know all the different villagers, these earnest quaint moments like finding the young sparring partner after dark in Sunflower Grove and discovering she has a crush on Ryo (lol who doesn't). All this stuff is the appeal of Shenmue to me even if other people consider it filler. It's part of what makes the world feel real & lived in, there's all these small moments you happen upon by chance.

I would never want a Shenmue game that feels like it's rushing to the conclusion of its epic saga. Teasing out the mystery that is part of what makes Shenmue feel like such a grand narrative. It meant so much more when you finally met Shenhua at the end of II because you had seen little hints of her in dreams for an entire game & knew her from the cover. It's likewise that we're just now learning the real history behind the Phoenix mirror. There's a lot of weight behind the reveal because of how long that mystery has been in the background of every event in Shenmue.

I understand the logic of people saying Yu should have played it safe and given the story a conclusion in III but in my opinion I'd rather have another legitimate portion of the Shenmue story than a rushed game which forego's a big part of what makes Shenmue appealing to me.
 

DadEggs

Member
May 26, 2011
15,528
4,568
1,325
so is the concensus that i should play 1 & 2 before this. or can i play this and if I want to continue the journey go back to a 1 & 2?
 
Aug 14, 2014
1,466
623
580
That's just incredible.
 

Elektro Demon

Shits and Giggles
Nov 9, 2019
4,602
8,093
835
Croatia
www.youtube.com
I like it so far, but I've just reached a point where I have to collect 2000 yen to buy some guy a special brew of alcohol.
Man this is gonna be a grind. I have to chop so many god damn logs for this.
Maybe finding herb sets is an easier way to make money.
 
Apr 30, 2018
548
565
400
I like it so far, but I've just reached a point where I have to collect 2000 yen to buy some guy a special brew of alcohol.
Man this is gonna be a grind. I have to chop so many god damn logs for this.
Maybe finding herb sets is an easier way to make money.

Herbs are a much faster solution ay.

Or spend 10 minutes playing the capsule machine of the Gem Set.

The Emerald P is very hard to get but all the others come in dozens.

As soon as you have the full set you can sell it for 1050 yuan at the
Pawn Shop.

With some luck you can even get the full set with capsule tickets alone if you have them.
 

kunonabi

Member
Dec 2, 2010
19,459
5,075
1,145
Man, aside from some minor issues and the combat I am loving this. It's so great to be back in this world.
 
Oct 14, 2010
4,151
3,106
1,205
Elektro Demon Elektro Demon
You can get like 200~300 Yuan off a single decent fishing session. I've only been fishing twice and got 300 on my second session at the spot near the bridge.
 
Last edited:

Airbus Jr

Member
Aug 12, 2018
6,046
10,305
830
Have no idea what this game about

Need to do a story recap first before dive into it
 
Last edited: