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R6Rider
Gold Member
That choice of style/editing is awful.
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How can you not think this is GOTY 2023 from this video?!
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TonyK
Member
Training for combat.
Porting the game to Xbox, and Switch. Bleeding Edge (RIP), Project Mara, relocating to a new studio, but also then a pandemic. Lots of mo-cap stuff which they obviously rely on was put on hold.
Stuart360
Member
God some of you on this forum really are depressing.
emivita
Member
Lol, I completely forgot about Bleeding Edge. I thought it was a side project. And isn't Project Mara a small project? It doesn't seem a very efficient studio, tough.
It's not a big studio or wasn't. Up to 115 based on LinkedIn
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Barlow
Member
Phil even said before he showed the trailer that they were in early development.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
I was expecting something more like those development diaries from the first game.
longdi
Banned
sad to say, this shows the very first trailer was CG
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Again, they explicitly said it wasn't a trailer but some behind the scenes shots and a bit of what they're working on. What part of that statement are you having difficulty grasping?
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
El Pistolero
Banned
This has just taken a large dump on every other game we've seen so far
Are you guys for real?
oldergamer
Member
yes... are you?Are you guys for real?
Half a second of Michael bay flashes "bwest gwame ewver". Cmon now, let's not get carried away.Are you guys for real?
TonyK
Member
In my case I don't understand the opposite opinion. All my friends that today have seen the Hellblade 2 video were disappointed, and they are worried by the state of the project. And here that opinion is condemned. Is it because is a Microsoft game and then any critic it's interpreted as a Sonyer attack? (the same for a game from Sony interpreted as a Xboxer attack).
Some times is so difficult to interact in a public forum. As you said, is really depressing
El Pistolero
Banned
In my case I don't understand the opposite opinion. All my friends that today have seen the Hellblade 2 video were disappointed, and they are worried by the state of the project. And here that opinion is condemned. Is it because is a Microsoft game and then any critic it's interpreted as a Sonyer attack? (the same for a game from Sony interpreted as a Xboxer attack).
Some times is so difficult to interact in a public forum. As you said, is really depressing
There were a couple of flashes, and the only thing that I could express with certainty is that the flames do not look good. Something seems off with Senua's face, but it's hard to tell given how quickly everything was thrown at the viewer...
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I wouldn’t worry about the flames… or the clouds in this game. They’re using all the most advanced techniques in rendering. They clearly waited for UE5 and they even mentioned the latest Epic has to offer in terms of character design (metahumans? ). The flames willl be the least of this game’s challenges.
Balducci30
Member
Lol what - if that was CG I’m betting these are too - they both look cg to me
Balducci30
Member
Huh? How are the flames bad? Show me better, honestly I want to see better flames in a game if there are some I need to know where
SoloKingRobert
Banned
Did you not watch the video? The guy said it's not a trailer or a teaser, just a sneak peak at what we're doing.
Otherwise they would've shown the trailer at E3.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
That's your own personal delusions. When they showed Hellblade II at the game awards with the Series X reveal Phil Spencer explicitly stated the game is in very early development...
JFC
BoxFresh123
Member
abacab driver
Banned
Thats that real hero lighting.
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Magnific0giganticus
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FatKingBallman
Banned
The bar of graphical excellence has been raised again
Yeah, maybe for in-engine showcases.
MDSLKTR
Member
Running animation looks gamey af
3liteDragon
Member
Great Hair
Banned
Hellblade 1 2017 PS4
Hellblade 2 2022 or like someone claimed 2023 GOTY
No gameplay footage as of yet, as with Starfield "only a CGI glimpse" .. in 5+ years?! They prolly should not have wasted their time and resources on Bleeding Edge.
they forgot to animate the hair ...
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Riky
$MSFT
That looks pretty amazing and I presume that's taken from whatever work is already done in UE4? Mind boggles what it will look like when complete on UE5.
Little Chicken
Member
Looks good to me.
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CamHostage
Member
They weren't that sort of liquid simulation flame effect that a lot of people like (going way back to the Deep Down engine demo, which I think the new Harry Potter game has?) I think maybe that's still what's being looked at as the future of in-game fire, among other types of flame effects.
Not a big deal though, most games don't use that type of flame engine still (and Panta Rhea engine sadly flamed out without ever launching a game on it,) plus the flames in the Hellblade II video aren't meant to crawl or splash like that, they just sort of spark up as she runs, so it's fine for this purpose.
Eh, we need to be a little careful of that kind of, "It's on UE5, that's +1 better!!" mentality...
Aside from Lumen and Nanite, a lot of what's known to be exciting about what's in the upcoming Unreal Engine is already in the current Unreal Engine. For instance, the realtime cloud technology new to Unreal Engine (introduced in UE 4.26, not UE5) brings it up to a baseline of Volumetric Clouds for gaming use; a developer like Ninja Theory would still need to use a more advanced plugin (if not create their own) to create a complex weather system in the game.
UE5 is the start of awesome things; a developer still needs to take the project where it needs to go.
(That said, UE5 should be a nice and obvious fit for what NT is trying to achieve in HB2.)
The whole thing about that tweet "confirming" the TGA trailer is a huge jump in logic. That model will be used for Senua (unless they change it,) and I think they even use it in realtime use in recording sessions (they did that a bit in the first game, where they had the character on-screen so they could direct the digital performance, not just the actor with a flashlight and football helmet on their heads...) but that video snippet isn't about saying that this is what the game can/will do; it's about the power of UE to allow such a realistic character to exist digitally, not that that render of that character in that trailer was performed on an Xbox that you can own some day. The real work to make a game of that character asset is still very much in the works.
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Balducci30
Member
Where are those liquid flames in games though? I’ve never seen them and I’m actually annoyed they don’t exist yet - do some actual 3D games have that type of flame simulation?
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
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Negotiator101
Member
Yeah this is all in engine, not prerendered as some are suggesting. Obviously its probably 2023 but switching over to UE5 is going to take a little more time. I said Ninja Theory are going to be the benchmark for real-time graphics in the industry before this generation is over, this just cements that.
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Yeah the guys at Epic Games were wrong.
3liteDragon
Member
I don't doubt that we'll get models like that in real-time in the game, but Alex's analysis makes sense too. To me looking at this image, Epic isn't explicitly saying here that the trailer is running in real-time. They're showing examples of what their real-time models will look like in the future on UE5, go watch the video I put on my earlier post and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Was gonna post this. You guys like being teased.
El Pistolero
Banned
Just saw a previous post with the stills. Nevermind...
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El Pistolero
Banned
I thought that it had just started production back then...18 months later, and they are just about to do that. Yeah, no...
Andodalf
Banned
LMAO dude watch the video before the shit post. He literally says it’s not a trailer, and not a teaser, just something to show what the team is up to. FOH
Three Jackdaws
Banned
Really looking forward to see what the team can pull off.
It's annoying though, Microsoft were so adamant on showing footage from the game to showcase the Series X debut back in late 2019, since then there still hasn't been any gameplay footage. As with the rest of the studios, I imagine the pandemic affected production and development heavily so maybe that's why.
It's annoying though, Microsoft were so adamant on showing footage from the game to showcase the Series X debut back in late 2019, since then there still hasn't been any gameplay footage. As with the rest of the studios, I imagine the pandemic affected production and development heavily so maybe that's why.
Insane Metal
Member
I'm sure it'll be mind blowing, but that was a load of nothing.