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Scarlet Nexus UK boxed charts: 80% PS, Xbox 20%

Superayate

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This is the closest we have in terms of physical : digital sales split. PS leading with 52%, PC is second at 27%. If we allocate everything else to Xbox, it would be 21%. A ratio of 2.47. PS vs. Xbox console sales would roughly be a ratio of 2.40.

There were some other more recent data post-COVID that showed that digital downloads jumped up to 70% on PlayStation. Because of the high PS userbase (~120 million) vs. Xbox userbase (~50 million), even Xbox has an 80-85% digital sales ratio, the end-result wouldn't be much different. The overall digital sales would still be around 70% in favor of PlayStation and 30% on Xbox.

In your link shared, there is the results for 2020 in UK for Digital, Retail in UK = > https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...games-sold-in-the-uk-in-2020-uk-annual-report

So, in 2020 for Retail:
  1. PS4 = 37.4%
  2. Switch = 35.1%
  3. Xone (+Xseries) < 27.5% because we obviously need to take in account the PS5 that is not negligible in this part.
For digital :
  1. PS4 = 41%
  2. Xone (+Xseries) = 26 %
  3. Switch (Nintendo Games are not included) + PS5 + PC = 33%
To have a PS5/PS4 Vs Xone/Xseries ratio higher than 2, you need to have a PS5 that is part of more than 11% of Digital market in 2020, which I think is not the case.
 

CRAIG667

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No

Maybe this is why no games are selling on Xbox. People just assume they can get it on Gamepass even when they can't
It's win win though, in the end companies will feel they have to publish on gamepass if Xbox sales are low
 

Danjin44

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People still going on with this? Japanese games sell better on Playstation and Nintendo and sky is blue. /Thread
 

Danjin44

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Eastern European games too?
I'm not sure, but if you are fan of Japanese games you either got Playstation or Switch or even both like me. This going to be same story with Tales of Arise, it going to sell more on Playstation rather than Xbox.
 

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Pulling numbers out of your arse = using your brain 😁.

How many times have you been exposed in the past week? You still bitter because I have a gaming PC lol.
Oh shit you’re the powerful PC gaming guy? 😂

Not gonna lie I would never remember you. Maybe you should get a life outside of Gaf.
 

Mr.ODST

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You still bitter because I have a gaming PC lol.
 
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Oh shit you’re the powerful PC gaming guy? 😂

Not gonna lie I would never remember you. Maybe you should get a life outside of Gaf.
Acting like you forgot claiming I don't have a gaming PC two days ago :cringe.

Dont worry I'm sure if you behave mummy and daddy will help you save up for one 😁.
 
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MOTM

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Acting like you forgot claiming I don't have a gaming PC two days ago :cringe.

Dont worry I'm sure if you behave mummy and daddy will help you save up for one 😁.
What the hell, you’re a random guy on a forum claiming he has a powerful PC. Don’t care about you as soon I’ve finished typing my comment 😂

Yes mummy daddy joke haha very hilarious you so funny. Anything else?
 

Hezekiah

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What the hell, you’re a random guy on a forum claiming he has a powerful PC. Don’t care about you as soon I’ve finished typing my comment 😂

Yes mummy daddy joke haha very hilarious you so funny. Anything else?
Pretending you've got amnesia - never go full retard 💩.
 

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I started my comment with that -- that there is no official data, but whatever little data we have points to PlayStation having more digital sales. I also said it is safe to assume that both consoles have a similar digital sales ratio until we get official data.

If anything, the argument that PlayStation has more physical sales and Xbox gets more digital sales is flawed and should not be entertained.
Of course Sony has more digital sales because they've sold more consoles. But I would bet that a greater % of PlayStation games sales are physical compared to Xbox. Xbox has done things to drive away people who value physical media.

While I don't think this data tells us much, it is easy to imagine that Game Pass might make people less likely to buy new games at full price. Ultimately, this could lead to more games coming into Game Pass. If Game Pass causes game publishers to lose money on sales whether they put their games into the service or not, then they might as well put their games into the service and get paid by Microsoft. It's sort of like spontaneous collective bargaining.
 
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Of course Sony has more digital sales because they've sold more consoles. But I would bet that a greater % of PlayStation games sales are physical compared to Xbox. Xbox has done things to drive away people who value physical media.

While I don't think this data tells us much, it is easy to imagine that Game Pass might make people less likely to buy new games at full price. Ultimately, this could lead to more games coming into Game Pass. If Game Pass causes game publishers to lose money on sales whether they put their games into the service or not, then they might as well put their games into the service and get paid by Microsoft. It's sort of like spontaneous collective bargaining.
As the ratio get more and more skewered to Sony's favor, it raises the costs of marketing deals and timed exclusivity. And as we see here, it would no longer make sense for Xbox to have marketing deals with third party games if they ended up still less popular.

You are skipping from stage 1 to stage 3; but the reality is Stage 2 would basically kill Xbox as a platform holder. And Stage 2 is when Xbox game sales become irrelevant, when third party games no longer bother to release games on Xbox at all because they don't want to run their games on a Series S.

At that assumes that Sony didn't do anything; the nightmare scenario is that it gets cheaper and cheaper for Sony to pay for full exclusivity if they end up offering 90% of total game sales anyway, and it leads to Sony just paying a small amount of money to block third party games from ever showing up to Xbox. That is the advantage of selling more hardware, something Xbox can't compete with.
 
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Of course Sony has more digital sales because they've sold more consoles. But I would bet that a greater % of PlayStation games sales are physical compared to Xbox. Xbox has done things to drive away people who value physical media.
You may think that but there is no data.

While I don't think this data tells us much, it is easy to imagine that Game Pass might make people less likely to buy new games at full price. Ultimately, this could lead to more games coming into Game Pass. If Game Pass causes game publishers to lose money on sales whether they put their games into the service or not, then they might as well put their games into the service and get paid by Microsoft. It's sort of like spontaneous collective bargaining.
And that is not the ideal situation that some think it is.

When publishers choose to release a game on a platform, they pay that platform owner (e.g., 30% sales cut). When a game is coming on a subscription service, the developers aren't paying the company. Instead, the company [owner of the subscription service] is paying the developer.

So in one scenario, as a company, you get the game for free and also earn a cut for each sale. In the other scenario, developers don't release games on your platform unless you pay them.

Unless you expect lifetime subsidization of games (which is literally impossible), all that money to pay third-party developers for releasing their games on a platform that should have got those games anyway because they are multiplatform would be coming from the subscribers' pockets.
 
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