• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
  • The Politics forum has been nuked. Please do not bring political discussion to the rest of the site, or you will be removed. Thanks.

Rumor RTX 40 series finalised using 5nm (4090 will be 2x 3090)

cormack12

Gold Member
Mar 21, 2013
11,127
29,858
1,550
Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...ies-design-allegedly-finalized-using-tsmc-5nm

According to the leaker, Ada Lovelace is definitely the next gaming series from NVIDIA. In fact, the entire project has been finalized and it should not change, claims the leaker. This means that the specifications that were floating around the web for the past few months may very well be final, however, there are no details on architecture tape-out yet.



Furthermore, the leaker is confident that the architecture will be build using TSMC 5nm process technology, but he is not sure if that’s N5 or N5P. Previous rumors only pointed towards 5nm but it wasn’t sure if NVIDIA will be using Samsung or TSMC for their 5nm product.

The most prominent NVIDIA leaker “kopite7kimi”, who correctly predicted the specs of the entire Ampere architecture lineup months in advance, is no longer sure that NVIDIA will indeed use Ada Lovelace for GeForce RTX 40 series, as indicated by the tweets he made back in May. NVIDIA’s strategy may depend on the performance of the competing chips, mainly AMD RDNA3 which are to be the first MCM gaming designs.

Kopite says that there is a possibility NVIDIA will launch gaming Hooper GPU such as GH202 instead of AD102.

 
Last edited:

Nvzman

Member
Dec 23, 2013
2,142
261
545
Really hope these cards are still PCIE 3.0 compatable, i literally just built a computer with a 3.0 motherboard...
 

Outlier

Member
Nov 9, 2020
560
807
340
Will we be needing a 2000W power supply soon? /s

I find it suspect that these GPUs that aren't even a year old year are already on the way out.

This has definitely been the generation to avoid, even though we've barely had the choice.

I wanna see what AMDs got.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kazzz1896

HeisenbergFX4

Member
Dec 28, 2016
4,997
31,110
950
Some Beach
Will we be needing a 2000W power supply soon? /s

I find it suspect that these GPUs that aren't even a year old year are already on the way out.

This has definitely been the generation to avoid, even though we've barely had the choice.

I wanna see what AMDs got.
Plus live right next to a power plant and prepare for your house to a sauna inside
 

Retinoid

Member
Dec 13, 2019
120
280
295
2x in FLOPS maybe but not real world gaming performance - unless they are talking about RT performance which I guess is possible, but definitely not traditional rasterization.
 

Excess

Member
Dec 8, 2020
811
1,344
355
Good point about the current offerings and how well they're doing. Nvidia doesn't seem to rush a new line unless the current one if underperforming. That happened with the 20 series.
 

Braag

Member
Aug 16, 2012
2,730
401
755
Finland
We might see them late 2022.
Hopefully the shortage wont be as bad as 30* series. I say as bad cause there will definitely be a shortage but I don't know how bad it will be.
 

Graciaus

Member
Nov 17, 2014
1,715
1,745
655
Start brainstorming a way for actual gamers to preorder them. The card is irrelevant if I can't buy one just like the 30 series.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dorkimoe

Kenpachii

Member
Mar 23, 2018
9,424
11,720
815
Really hope these cards are still PCIE 3.0 compatable, i literally just built a computer with a 3.0 motherboard...

They will

4090 will be no more 50 percent faster than the 3090.

Pretty sure that's how they prefer to do it.

from 7 to 5nm on tsmc from there whatever shit they are on now could very well mean 2x increase. I could easily see this.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: DonJuanSchlong

Pagusas

Elden Member
Jun 9, 2006
13,566
5,843
1,870
Prosper, Tx
Really hope these cards are still PCIE 3.0 compatable, i literally just built a computer with a 3.0 motherboard...
They will 100% be. It’s needed for comparability and 99% of the market is still on 3.0. There is no physically changes to the interface for 5.0, so 3.0 has to stay in for full legacy and comparability support
 

Kuranghi

Member
Apr 17, 2015
6,763
11,936
830
I used to always go X/XX70 series but since I love 4K I really should go XX80 series from now on. I still wish I'd bought a 1080 ti back when I got my 1080, I didnt realise how much of a jump up it was for (at the time) £150 more than what I paid for the 1080, ie ~25% more.
 

twilo99

Member
Mar 9, 2021
974
997
300
The shift to TSMC is a huge boost for Nvidia, now we can see their latest powerful cards with the best manufacturing process.

They learned their lesson with the 30 series, so yeah, back to TSMC they go...
 

Fictive

Member
Nov 10, 2013
1,642
1,025
850
This time around it may very well be worth the money sink if performance (twice a 3090) and reliability is there.
 

RoadHazard

Member
Dec 9, 2008
21,236
4,378
1,255
Gothenburg, Sweden
We're getting pretty close to the physical limit of how small these nodes can get right? Electrons will start jumping to the wrong places etc. What are they gonna do then? Just make larger GPUs? I guess faster is also an option, but then you get heat concerns instead.
 
Last edited:
  • Thoughtful
Reactions: The Rain King

SLB1904

I'm a massive child who is on perm notice for crying about plastic boxes.
Oct 24, 2017
3,494
7,266
730
I'll wait for the 5090 in 2023 :p
 

PhoenixTank

Member
Jul 13, 2017
1,487
1,688
745
Really hope these cards are still PCIE 3.0 compatable, i literally just built a computer with a 3.0 motherboard...
Can't see why they wouldn't be. PCIE is fully forward & backward compatible AFAIK.
 
Last edited:

GreatnessRD

Member
Jun 30, 2017
1,516
1,673
635
Baltimore, MD
We might see them late 2022.
Hopefully the shortage wont be as bad as 30* series. I say as bad cause there will definitely be a shortage but I don't know how bad it will be.
Hopefully, we'll be on our way out of the shortage by that time. I know Intel's CEO said it might last until '23, but I'm hoping the world will be able to ramp up and keep the pace for the most part by the end of '22. The next GPU series with Navi 33 and Lovelace should be a fun one. Too bad I got this 6800 XT and gonna sit it out anyway, lol.