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Retro Anime Discussion |OT|

What retro anime titles are long overdue for a blu-ray release in North America?


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Happosai

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The picture quality is the worst offender. If you are gonna buy anime buy physical. Usually around now (or before Christmas) you can get complete seasons/series for like 75%. Meh.
I have a digital library of all the old anime that was released on LaserDisc only and never made it to DVD. Streaming varies in quality and early DVD releases of anime sucked. My wife is the one that makes me watch long series...otherwise I wouldn't tackle anything beyond 26 episodes. I don't hate streaming; I think I get caught up on not owning whatever it is I'm watching on streaming platforms. It's like digital Blockbuster.
 
I'm pretty sure you just gave a small description of "Sleepy" John Estes (a character) from the manga / OVA called 'Mad Bull 34.' He is with a lot of women in the OVA and is pretty corrupt. He gets pretty violent in some scenes, too. The overall character is training a younger intern cop Daizaburo "Eddie" Ban (who I think they mentioned transfered to NYPD from Japan???) and sometimes comes off as a nice guy. He smokes and sleeps a lot when he's not working.

They're not porn but there were a lot of strong scenes in Mad Bull 34. So, I imagine to a teenager...they may have thought that.

He's drawn as a giant like you described, too.


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Three months later I finally found it! I actually got in touch with the guy at whose place we watched this as kids. Luckily guy stayed an anime nerd and in like 4 hours remembered. We actually got in touch through FB for the first time since we last saw each other 20 years ago. Anyway the anime is Golgo13!
 

Happosai

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Three months later I finally found it! I actually got in touch with the guy at whose place we watched this as kids. Luckily guy stayed an anime nerd and in like 4 hours remembered. We actually got in touch through FB for the first time since we last saw each other 20 years ago. Anyway the anime is Golgo13!
Congrats! Always nice to rediscover something from times past. So, was it Golgo 13: The Professional, Queen Bee, or the much later made TV series?
 

SirTerry-T

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Hi, I've been rediscovering some of the shows that passed me by after drifting out of anime after it's late 80's-90's heyday.
Just discovered "Seriei no Moribito"...not "old" old but still old enough I guess?
Anyhow, it's a great show if grounded historical fantasy is your thing. Shades of Avatar The Last Airbender in the dynamics of the main characters relationship. Lovely looking stuff, as always, from Production IG too.

On the subject of Retro anime, there is a guy on YouTube "Teeaboo" who does some great deep dive style analysis on the older stuff. He's just finished a run-through of the "Your Under Arrest" 4 part ova series. Was an absolute joy to watch that again.
 
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Happosai

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Hi, I've been rediscovering some of the shows that passed me by after drifting out of anime after it's late 80's-90's heyday.
Just discovered Seriei no Moribito .not "old" old but still old enough I guess?
Anyhow, it's a great show if grounded historical fantasy is your thing. Shades of Avatar The Last Airbender in the dynamics of the main characters relationship. Lovely looking stuff, as always, from Production IG too.

On the subject of Retro anime, there is a guy on YouTube "Teeaboo" who does some great deep dive style analysis on the older stuff. He's just finished a run-through of the "Your Under Arrest" 4 part ova series. Was an absolute joy to watch that again.
Never heard of that YouTube user. On the topic of YouTube - many write into this thread wanting to watch classic anime but not having money or resources for some of the streaming apps or hard media. I suggest checking out several YouTube channels or just type in: "retro anime movies/OVAs/series" and you'll find quite a bit that you can watch freely.

About Moritbito. The novel was retro but the anime series isn't necessarily where I'd call it retro or the manga. They were published in 2007 and 14-years seems old but looking at Tezuka works which are over 50-years old...that's retro.
 
Bugglegum Crisis fans may want to check out this wealth of production and design art:


 

Happosai

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Bugglegum Crisis fans may want to check out this wealth of production and design art:


I'm saving those pages and uploading the artwork to my external hard drive Space Runaway Space Runaway . By the way, is there any reason why anyone should buy the re-releases of Bubblegum Crisis DVD or blu-ray set (considering most already own one of the many AnimeEigo releases)?
 
I'm saving those pages and uploading the artwork to my external hard drive Space Runaway Space Runaway . By the way, is there any reason why anyone should buy the re-releases of Bubblegum Crisis DVD or blu-ray set (considering most already own one of the many AnimeEigo releases)?

I couldn't say. I own the Kickstarter release which came in 3 discs and had extras. The current bluray seems to be a single disc standalone with some compression issues. Doesn't look like there's a better option unless you purchase the kickstarter version second hand. =P
 

Happosai

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I couldn't say. I own the Kickstarter release which came in 3 discs and had extras. The current bluray seems to be a single disc standalone with some compression issues. Doesn't look like there's a better option unless you purchase the kickstarter version second hand. =P
I have the 4-disc collectors edition that AnimeEigo released in 2004. It still seems pretty common to find that one. It appeared that Discotek's DVD release was the exact same or similar to the 2004 AE release.
 
I have the 4-disc collectors edition that AnimeEigo released in 2004. It still seems pretty common to find that one. It appeared that Discotek's DVD release was the exact same or similar to the 2004 AE release.

Hmm I don't see any Discotek versions for release? Just the AnimEigo bluray and dvds that have been floating around for a few years now.
 

Happosai

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Hmm I don't see any Discotek versions for release? Just the AnimEigo bluray and dvds that have been floating around for a few years now.
I'm not sure why I thought it was Discotek that had released Bubblegum Crisis on bluray. I must be confusing with something else. Anyway, I was told that there were issues with the picture and that they stripped blu-ray version of all extras.
 
I'm not sure why I thought it was Discotek that had released Bubblegum Crisis on bluray. I must be confusing with something else. Anyway, I was told that there were issues with the picture and that they stripped blu-ray version of all extras.

Ah. Yeah the wide release Bluray is a single disc while the Kickstarter was 3. Not sure how much the quality took a hit.

For the DVD ver the Knightsabers Holiday in Bali (Boy what a scam for a free vacation this was :messenger_sunglasses: ) was left off the prism set but seems to have been included in the current one. I think the video transfer is otherwise the same though.

I think the old VHS Konya Wa Hurricane live video is missing from all versions(Unless it's hidden on the Kickstarter bluray like the Revenge Road promo with Kinuko Oomori wearing a hardsuit replica) though it may be on the most recent dvd release. I can't confirm. =P
 
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Happosai

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Cybercity Blu-Ray coming soon.

Gonna start Gundam After War X soon. The last old Gundam anime I've got left to watch.
It's about time Cyber City Oedo was given a North American blu-ray release. Those DVD releases were old.
 
Cybercity Blu-Ray coming soon.

Gonna start Gundam After War X soon. The last old Gundam anime I've got left to watch.

I actually like Gundam X even though it's something of a disaster. I think maybe because it's one of the last Gundam series to have those random mean spirited kill moments you would get from the Tomino series. =P
 

Valonquar

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Tough call on the voting for 2. I think Urusei Yatsura would be a close 3rd for me, but the episode quality varies a lot between shows with that one. Gunbuster should have been on Blu-Ray long long ago and MI holds a dear place in my heart.
All of them would be great TBH, but only if done with real care & love.
 
Gunbuster because I'm a huge mecha fan and Berserk because I'm surprised it's not already available in blu-ray.

The others would be great but I doubt they'd be a commercial success.

I was going to mention Space Adventure Cobra but after a quick search it seems a blu-ray release already exists. I'm rewatching it currently and having a blast with it; Cobra is such a charismatic character and the Dezaki direction is nothing but beauty. The rugball arc is the peak of the series imo.

I really should pick a few old school anime to watch this year.
 

Happosai

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Tough call on the voting for 2. I think Urusei Yatsura would be a close 3rd for me, but the episode quality varies a lot between shows with that one. Gunbuster should have been on Blu-Ray long long ago and MI holds a dear place in my heart.
All of them would be great TBH, but only if done with real care & love.

Gunbuster because I'm a huge mecha fan and Berserk because I'm surprised it's not already available in blu-ray.

The others would be great but I doubt they'd be a commercial success.

I was going to mention Space Adventure Cobra but after a quick search it seems a blu-ray release already exists. I'm rewatching it currently and having a blast with it; Cobra is such a charismatic character and the Dezaki direction is nothing but beauty. The rugball arc is the peak of the series imo.

I really should pick a few old school anime to watch this year.
Gunbuster has a pretty good fanbase. So far, all that I know of a blu-ray release is the Japanese one...which I believe was limited. Although some may object...I'd also petition for Gall Force to be released in a blu-ray set but that's likely not going to happen.

Urusei Yatsura has needed a release on blu-ray for eons! Not sure why the majority of Rumiko adapted anime are not getting releases beyond VHS, LD, and/or DVD. I mean, they've released Inuyasha and Ranma 1/2 on most formats due to international popularity but the others were much bigger (namely Maison Ikkoku and Urusei Yatsura). I also think that all those obscure RumikWorld releases need a blu-ray release.
 

Ballthyrm

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The old gundam anime I rediscovered after they came out on blu ray, like gundam 8th ms team or zeta gundam.

Really it's in the old hand drawn anime where we see a lot of the benefits to switch to blu ray especially if the remaster is using the original film.
 

Labolas

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Voted for Gunbuster and Berserk because I'm a huge fan of those series. But a lot of older shows need to have some sort re-release over here. Stuff like You're Under Arrest, Dirty Pair, Great Teacher Onizuka, R.O.D., Birdy the Mighty (OVA), Golden Boy I wished would get re-releases on blu-ray.
 
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So far, all that I know of a [Gunbuster] blu-ray release is the Japanese one...which I believe was limited.
The regular edition of the Japanese BD box set is still widely available, though it doesn't feature English subtitles. There was also a Complete Edition, containing a nice extras disc and booklet, which released alongside the normal set and is now only available on the secondary market.

While it'd be nice to see someone rescue Gunbuster, I wouldn't be surprised if opportunities for the rights got messy, when Maiden Japan (a Section23 Films subsidiary) re-licensed the movie version back in 2016. Considering the Maiden Japan disc seems to be out-of-print, hopefully were at a point, where enough time will have soon elapsed for someone else to take a shot at the OVA.

In terms of Urusei Yatsura, if fans in North American want the TV show, the best thing they can probably do is buy the movie releases from Diskotek. Even if all a company does is slap the old AnimEigo subtitles on a BD disc, a company still needs to have faith they can sell enough copies of a 195 episode series. As for Maison Ikkoku, I wouldn't be shocked to see VIZ license the BD release in the next year-or-two, considering they're currently re-releasing the manga in something for a prestige format.
 
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Happosai

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Voted for Gunbuster and Berserk because I'm a huge fan of those series. But a lot of older shows need to have some sort re-release over here. Stuff like You're Under Arrest, Dirty Pair, Great Teacher Onizuka, R.O.D., Birdy the Mighty (OVA), Golden Boy I wished would get re-releases on blu-ray.
I forgot Dominion Tank Police and the Gunsmith Cats OVAs! Europe has a blu-ray release for Berserk TV. The others...I imagine are still being held off pretty much everywhere outside of Japan. I see Berserk getting a release by someone soon. Anime Works were the last to give it a full North America release and that was like 15years ago.
 

Happosai

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The regular edition of the Japanese BD box set is still widely available, though it doesn't feature English subtitles. There was also a Complete Edition, containing a nice extras disc and booklet, which released alongside the normal set and is now only available on the secondary market.

While it'd be nice to see someone rescue Gunbuster, I wouldn't be surprised if opportunities for the rights got messy, when Maiden Japan (a Section23 Films subsidiary) re-licensed the movie version back in 2016. Considering the Maiden Japan disc seems to be out-of-print, hopefully were at a point, where enough time will have soon elapsed for someone else to take a shot at the OVA.

In terms of Urusei Yatsura, if fans in North American want the TV show, the best thing they can probably do is buy the movie releases from Diskotek. Even if all a company does is slap the old AnimEigo subtitles on a BD disc, a company still needs to have faith they can sell enough copies of a 195 episode series. As for Maison Ikkoku, I wouldn't be shocked to see VIZ license the BD release in the next year-or-two, considering they're currently re-releasing the manga in something for a prestige format.
Viz Media is a bit different than they were back when they first released Maison Ikkoku. They were more independent. Now, they belong to Warner Brothers...and I don't see Warner Bros big with taking risks for older anime that were not in exaggerated popularity during their DVD release.

U.Y. is a pretty big stretch in terms of anyone getting a full release of that. I doubt there would be a budget to re subtitle it unfortunately. But...who knows. Gunbuster I figure will get another release but I don't see it being Discotek.
 
Now, [VIZ] belong to Warner Brothers
VIZ is owned by Hitotsubashi Group, a conglomerate that includes Shueisha, Shogakukan, and Shogakukan-Shueisha Productions; Warner Bros. is only contracted as their home-video distributor. Considering VIZ has sales data on both Takahashi's anime and manga properties, they'd be one of the most likely candidates to license something like Maison Ikkoku; they're also potentially in a fairly good spot for the series, with the Sailor Moon BDs having ended and the aforementioned re-release of the manga.

As for Urusei Yatsura, the TV show got its cheaper, repackaged BD set in Japan back in 2017. If there was a time for a North American company to take a shot and license the series, it'd be soon, before the Japanese release it in another format. Diskotek is at least taking a shot with the movies; decent sales would help support the notion there are customers for the television show.
 
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Happosai

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VIZ is owned by Hitotsubashi Group, a conglomerate that includes Shueisha, Shogakukan, and Shogakukan-Shueisha Productions; Warner Bros. is only contracted as their home-video distributor. Considering VIZ has sales data on both Takahashi's anime and manga properties, they'd be one of the most likely candidates to license something like Maison Ikkoku; they're also potentially in a fairly good spot for the series, with the Sailor Moon BDs having ended and the aforementioned re-release of the manga.

As for Urusei Yatsura, the TV show got its cheaper, repackaged BD set in Japan back in 2017. If there was a time for a North American company to take a shot and license the series, it'd be soon, before the Japanese release it in another format. Diskotek is at least taking a shot with the movies; decent sales would help support the notion there are customers for the television show.
Was not aware that VIZ had a link to Shogakukan. The thing I see holding back a blu-ray release is it's lasting popularity. Maison Ikkoku indeed had a following back in the 80's and 90's. However, Ranma 1/2 and Sailer Moon have always remained popular throughout the 2000's and 2010's. My skepticism comes from the fact that Japan would seemingly be the only ones interested in publishing a blu-ray release of Maison Ikkoku. If it was someone like Discotek; we'd have it for sure. But since it's VIZ...I really only see them promoting their best selling anime from the past. Although, I remain hopeful they will consider there are still fans and there still is money worth putting into a N.A. blu-ray release.

Urusei Yatsura I imagine is an eventual release for Discotek but not as an all-in-one set. It was a large series and they'll probably split it into 3 or 4 parts.
 
Was not aware that VIZ had a link to Shogakukan. The thing I see holding back a blu-ray release is it's lasting popularity. Maison Ikkoku indeed had a following back in the 80's and 90's. However, Ranma 1/2 and Sailer Moon have always remained popular throughout the 2000's and 2010's. My skepticism comes from the fact that Japan would seemingly be the only ones interested in publishing a blu-ray release of Maison Ikkoku. If it was someone like Discotek; we'd have it for sure. But since it's VIZ...I really only see them promoting their best selling anime from the past. Although, I remain hopeful they will consider there are still fans and there still is money worth putting into a N.A. blu-ray release.

Urusei Yatsura I imagine is an eventual release for Discotek but not as an all-in-one set. It was a large series and they'll probably split it into 3 or 4 parts.
True, Maison Ikkoku's popularity in North America is lower than certain other Takahashi works or a franchise like Sailor Moon. At the same time, VIZ has kept Maison Ikkoku circulating in both print and video formats, since the early 1990s; the final DVD box set was released in 2006, and this most recent manga version is the series' fourth North American edition, when counting the 30-or-so page floppies. Price and format-licensing issues would potentially be a more likely reason for the lack of a domestic Blu-ray. The two, initial Japanese BD sets for the TV series were released in late 2013 & early 2014 and (using quick-and-dirty math) were roughly $385 each; a single, priced-down set was made available in 2017 for roughly $365. VIZ would probably be willing to do a multipart set, but obviously nowhere near the Japanese prices. We're now at a point, where all those Japanese sets are--if not out-of-print--largely unavailable, which should increase the ability to obtain more reasonable N.A. licensing. None of this means, of course, we'll see a domestic BD set, but VIZ's current video release schedule is fairly light and they're again pushing the manga.

As for Urusei Yatsura, in truth, I'm not all that bullish on the prospects of the television show becoming available again in the U.S., but with Discotek's previous BD for UY: Beautiful Dreamer and forthcoming releases of the rest of the movies, it's the first instance in some time since customers in the U.S. had the ability to demonstrate support for the series. Urusei Yatsura in anime form probably doesn't fit well in the portfolios of most North American anime distributors, making the movies' performance one of the few indicators for the TV show's viability.
 
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Happosai

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True, Maison Ikkoku's popularity in North America is lower than certain other Takahashi works or a franchise like Sailor Moon. At the same time, VIZ has kept Maison Ikkoku circulating in both print and video formats, since the early 1990s; the final DVD box set was released in 2006, and this most recent manga version is the series' fourth North American edition, when counting the 30-or-so page floppies. Price and format-licensing issues would potentially be a more likely reason for the lack of a domestic Blu-ray. The two, initial Japanese BD sets for the TV series were released in late 2013 & early 2014 and (using quick-and-dirty math) were roughly $385 each; a single, priced-down set was made available in 2017 for roughly $365. VIZ would probably be willing to do a multipart set, but obviously nowhere near the Japanese prices. We're now at a point, where all those Japanese sets are--if not out-of-print--largely unavailable, which should increase the ability to obtain more reasonable N.A. licensing. None of this means, of course, we'll see a domestic BD set, but VIZ's current video release schedule is fairly light and they're again pushing the manga.

As for Urusei Yatsura, in truth, I'm not all that bullish on the prospects of the television show becoming available again in the U.S., but with Discotek's previous BD for UY: Beautiful Dreamer and forthcoming releases of the rest of the movies, it's the first instance in some time since customers in the U.S. had the ability to demonstrate support for the series. Urusei Yatsura in anime form probably doesn't fit well in the portfolios of most North American anime distributors, making the movies' performance one of the few indicators for the TV show's viability.
Seems like I'd have to read and research more into VIZ's video operations to actually understand how they decide on what to and what to not license based on a certain demographic. Unless you can send out some data to help with that. It's been a sorta blind ambition of mine to see them release Maison Ikkoku on blu-ray. I don't really care if they remaster or not...I never got a chance to buy the DVD's when they were in print and only got as far as completing the manga. I'd like a simple subbed release on blu-ray and that's about it...hd or sd...it really doesn't matter as long as it's the complete series.

Someone who works in marketing and analytics for Discotek would probably be able to say if that's a larger series they'd pick up for release. I believe it would sell if they promote it well enough. It's not going to sell more than 10,000 units but probably enough to get it a limited release to boot for those who are interested. At this point, most of the older anime OVA, movie, and TV remasters are being purchased exclusively by physical media collectors and enthusiasts. It's like I've discussed with Space Runaway Space Runaway on here previously; video market is getting killed and yet it's unnecessary. Those who really appreciate any kind of film medium are going to buy physical and not opt for a streaming rental service which often censors and limits the content you have access to. I like to keep things retro not just in a sense of memory but also to have a physical collection to know there's something to go to when I'm not willing to pay our new rental stores like blockbuster...er...crunchyroll for that kind of media.
 
Seems like I'd have to read and research more into VIZ's video operations to actually understand how they decide on what to and what to not license based on a certain demographic. Unless you can send out some data to help with that. It's been a sorta blind ambition of mine to see them release Maison Ikkoku on blu-ray. I don't really care if they remaster or not...I never got a chance to buy the DVD's when they were in print and only got as far as completing the manga. I'd like a simple subbed release on blu-ray and that's about it...hd or sd...it really doesn't matter as long as it's the complete series.

Someone who works in marketing and analytics for Discotek would probably be able to say if that's a larger series they'd pick up for release. I believe it would sell if they promote it well enough. It's not going to sell more than 10,000 units but probably enough to get it a limited release to boot for those who are interested. At this point, most of the older anime OVA, movie, and TV remasters are being purchased exclusively by physical media collectors and enthusiasts. It's like I've discussed with Space Runaway Space Runaway on here previously; video market is getting killed and yet it's unnecessary. Those who really appreciate any kind of film medium are going to buy physical and not opt for a streaming rental service which often censors and limits the content you have access to. I like to keep things retro not just in a sense of memory but also to have a physical collection to know there's something to go to when I'm not willing to pay our new rental stores like blockbuster...er...crunchyroll for that kind of media.
For Maison Ikkoku, the recent Japanese disc releases could be purchased either on BD or DVD and were produced from a new telecine transfer (I don't own these sets, but from pictures, they look quite nice). Whatever VIZ, or anyone else for that matter, could license would almost certainly be based on these most recent Japanese materials. I don't have any inside data to provide, but experience suggests the only thing that would prevent an eventual domestic BD would either be ridiculously expensive licensing costs or that the show just isn't available to license for some other reason. Worth considering, Takahashi's works are popular throughout Europe, and as far as I'm aware, they also have not seen a BD of Maison Ikkoku; there's a good chance the license cost (and possibly other stipulations) surrounding the series has thus far kept it off the table for international release.

Ultimately, everything comes down to the cost to license & produce versus expected sales. At least for Maison Ikkoku, the series has enough of an international track record that it's hard to imagine BD releases remaining indefinitely Japan-only.
 

Happosai

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For Maison Ikkoku, the recent Japanese disc releases could be purchased either on BD or DVD and were produced from a new telecine transfer (I don't own these sets, but from pictures, they look quite nice). Whatever VIZ, or anyone else for that matter, could license would almost certainly be based on these most recent Japanese materials. I don't have any inside data to provide, but experience suggests the only thing that would prevent an eventual domestic BD would either be ridiculously expensive licensing costs or that the show just isn't available to license for some other reason. Worth considering, Takahashi's works are popular throughout Europe, and as far as I'm aware, they also have not seen a BD of Maison Ikkoku; there's a good chance the license cost (and possibly other stipulations) surrounding the series has thus far kept it off the table for international release.

Ultimately, everything comes down to the cost to license & produce versus expected sales. At least for Maison Ikkoku, the series has enough of an international track record that it's hard to imagine BD releases remaining indefinitely Japan-only.
It makes for good discussion non-the-less. That's why I made the poll. If the thread had more publicity; I'd have a broader idea of what classic anime fans want released on blu-ray. It really seemed like Maison Ikkoku had a large Western following but it didn't get as much international TV airing as shows like Ranma 1/2 did. Of those I suggested in the poll...I would assume that the Berserk may be the only title getting a blu-ray release sometime in the next year or so in North America. The others still seem far off. However, I'm always surprised when I see another seemingly rare title getting a remaster on DVD or blu-ray. Excellent information though! Thanks for your research and insight into that area.
 

mortal

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Image dump of a bunch of Yoshiyuki Takani art.

His stuff was commonly used for magazine covers or adverts, mainly in the hobby area. If you were buying mecha models back in the day, they often featured his work on their boxart.
Takani's work is phenomenal. Really captures the boots-on-the-ground feeling in mobile suit conflicts.

Thanks for sharing.
 

Durask

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It's good; bit of a mixed bag at times and ultimately never goes anywhere. Mainly cool for the 80s visuals, mecha and especially the music.

Each OVA is an individual story but the first 3 eps have something of an arc, though 2 and 3 are short and feel a little rushed. OVA 4 is fully standalone and probably has the most even artstyle. 5 and 6 are directly connected and both directed by Masami Obari, so they're kinda the anime equivalent of looking at early 90s Image comics. =P. 6 is also the best animated of the bunch. 7 is a compromised episode due to late changes but it looks nice due to Satoshi Urushiara's involvement. OVA 8 is a filler and then it's all over.

There was also a 3 OVA sequel series called Bubblegum Crash but it's weak.
It is very pretty but the story makes no sense.
I did buy the blu-ray.
 
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Happosai

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Just watched Perfect Blue for teh first time. I actually owned this on VHS (got it as a gift) but never watched it before.

Was legit!
I have a lot of anime in my classic collection that I sometimes take 6 or more years to get around watching. Perfect Blue is a pretty good one to stumble on if you've never seen it. It seems like at the time Kon made that - Western audiences were really getting taken in by Japanese animation. Heck, Roger Corman watched and reviewed Perfect Blue when it was getting it's Manga Video release in the U.S. It's pretty tough to reach that standard of storytelling and animation nowadays if you're going for traditional method. By the way, if you held onto your VCR...there's a lot of good anime that came out on VHS and never made it to DVD or Blu-ray that's now affordable and worth watching!
 

Happosai

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Recently watched gunsmith cats. Shame it was only 3 episodes, it was pretty cool.
Gunsmith Cats may have only been 3 episodes but they put a lot into those three. It's long overdue for a blu-ray release. I still have the ADV VHS and a digital rip of the episodes. You might want to watch Riding Bean if you liked the Gunsmith Cats OVA or Manga and have not yet seen it! It's 45-minutes of great animation, action, and Bean's finest and only time on screen.
 

Durask

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Gunsmith Cats may have only been 3 episodes but they put a lot into those three. It's long overdue for a blu-ray release.
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It is very pretty but the story makes no sense.
I did buy the blu-ray.
I don't know if I'd say it didn't make sense so much as most(maybe all) of the plot threads, hints and general end point go unanswered/nowhere since the series died before it could address them. They tried to cover some of it in Crash (Like the Mason being Largo stuff) but didn't really do that well and Crash was generally pretty crap anyway.

I do know that Sylia was intended to be some kind of Boomer all along but they never made it to the reveal. =P
 

Shouta

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BGC was definitely a lot of style and and a bit light on the substance but its production history is to blame on that. The music is still pretty amazing though.

I ended up liking 2040 more than I did the original BGC because it really expanded on all of the elements well but I definitely missed the 80s aesthetic.

One thing I miss from the 80s is the mechanical porn they used to animate that was suiting up or giant robots doing a gattai. I miss seeing all of those moving parts.
 
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Durask

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I don't know if I'd say it didn't make sense so much as most(maybe all) of the plot threads, hints and general end point go unanswered/nowhere since the series died before it could address them. They tried to cover some of it in Crash (Like the Mason being Largo stuff) but didn't really do that well and Crash was generally pretty crap anyway.

I do know that Sylia was intended to be some kind of Boomer all along but they never made it to the reveal. =P

The whole worldbuilding made no sense to start with.
Boomers go haywire left and right but everyone just sweeps away body parts, goes "eh" and just moves along.
 

Happosai

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I completely forgot about that. I think it was a limited run but I'll check it out. Thanks for sharing that link!
 

OmegaSupreme

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I started a re watch Witch Hunter Robin. I forgot how much of a slow burn it is. I love the design work of the show and its intriguing but its very, very slow lol.
 
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Happosai

Hold onto your panties
BGC was definitely a lot of style and and a bit light on the substance but its production history is to blame on that. The music is still pretty amazing though.

I ended up liking 2040 more than I did the original BGC because it really expanded on all of the elements well but I definitely missed the 80s aesthetic.

One thing I miss from the 80s is the mechanical porn they used to animate that was suiting up or giant robots doing a gattai. I miss seeing all of those moving parts.
That was the case with some 80's anime I'd like to get into but couldn't because the story just wasn't that great. Another debate which has been similar are the comparisons of story on Vampire Hunter D and Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. Most seem to side with Bloodlust being the better story. I tend to like Go Nagai spin-offs and sequels more than the originals myself.
 

Happosai

Hold onto your panties
Back then it was ok for a manga/anime to start off slow.

True. Anime has certainly changed in the 20 years since that came out. I'm not saying it so much as a negative it just surprised me a bit. The only thing really bugging me about it is the low deaf digital look to a lot of it.
I'm watching Maze: the Mega Burst Space (an anime series that which faded into obscurity before the end of the 21st century); it starts off super slow and I'm only watching this because I remember liking something about it when I last saw it about 18-years ago on VHS. Can't say slower is better as I'm trying to see if my wife will like it. The slow start with the story doesn't help engage much of an audience which is likely why both the U.S. and Japan completely abandoned this anime (Japan didn't even release it on DVD). They also made a movie for Maze which was denied a home video release in all countries...including Japan.

Digital artwork can be good. The issue is that Japanese studios have never been given great funding for series and multiple studios usually split the budget or cut it wherever they can. That's something that was seen during the Golden Era of anime which is still relative today. Quality decline is usually someone in production being a cheapskate to put it simple.
 
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