xrnzaaas
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Some people are under the impression that Starfield's release will overshadow everything else - that's a big lol from me.
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Redfall Rumored to Be Targeting Late March 2023 Release
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intheinbetween
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Well I don’t see any problem with that. Deathloop is a pretty good game, actually it got very good reviews, and some awards iirc.
AutumnLeaves
Member
That's fine that it got great reviews and got "awards." I tried it out and could not get into it at all. I gave it multiple attempts. I found it average and not enough for me to keep playing. And this is coming from someone who's enjoyed Arkane since Arx Fatalis.
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intheinbetween
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And that’s perfectly fine, but it’s just your personal opinion however you can’t use that as an argument about Arkane not keeping their good work.
Deathloop is really fun and by no means it shows signs of decline in their works
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AutumnLeaves
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For myself, I definitely can. Their future game does not interest me one bit.
I dunno, I never quite understood the hate for deathloops marketing. Apart from there being far too much of it.
It was quite clear in terms of saying what the game was like, what its vibe was etc, and the game was very much representative of its marketing, and was good. I think people just got sick of it being shoved down their throats everywhere so relentlessly.
On the other hand, if Redfall is anything like it’s trailers, it’s basically borderlands with trash tier, annoying characters and narrative. None of which are things that attracted me to Arkane games, which was immersive sims with strong single player story telling, interesting characters and thought provoking worlds, plus all the usual Arkane core gameplay mechanics (the latter it does look like it has, but it it’s wrapped in a co-op optimised loot shooter with uninspired world and trash character and dialogue then it’ll be a big miss for me).
It could be that the main visionary at Arkane left and set up his own studio (released weird west recently)
, and now they lack the vision to be what they once were.
I wouldn’t release anything around Starfield. Probably the biggest game of 2023.
How narcissistic of me to ask for a game after those 2 years of void since launch.
I don't know what you call a conspiracy, it sounds like a strawman to me, actually the same shit Microsoft uses all the time. It's just a marketing stance. Every year they don't have anything concrete to show. So for E3 2022, they had this new idea, to make us believe the REAL problem everyone pointed out was that they announce their shit too soon and that this time, it would be all about what's going to come into that window of 1 year, no bullshit.
There are two major problems here. First, as you said games get delayed all the time, so Microsoft, of all people, should know better and shut their mouth, after the Halo Infinite disaster and all that. You should stop blaming people that complains about the bullshit they're relentlessy telling when it's more about who gives the stick. And second, even that was bullshit to begin with, people are not mad because of how Microsoft show their games, they're mad because Microsoft releases nothing, and that's it. But they want to make it a superficial discourse about the marketing side of things that they just should change for next year like what matters is a stupid show, so people just forget they have no games, which is the most important part.
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Torrent of Pork
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Every time BGS Maryland has dropped a game since Morrowind it has comfortably rested its nutsack on the forehead of the entire industry for at least half a year. Yes, including Fallout 4, which made a metric shit-ton of money. It would be best if devs get the hell out of the way when the date is announced.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Fallout 4 was a fine game, it's problem wasn't mechanical, but some other issues like the bad dialogue system (that mods can fix) and that fucking settlement guy.
ChorizoPicozo
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I have the same issue with Bioshock.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Starfield will likely come even later.
kapshin
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I'd like my ex wife to not be a bitch but that's not happening either
vaibhavpisal
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Deathloop sucks for first 4 hrs where they task you with just following a marker.
After that game explicitly tells you "no more hand holding".
After that it gets better. Still weakest Arkane game of all I have played, but definitely enjoyable and worth a playthrough.
Have you seen latest trailer for Redfall?
Atmosphere seems to be a step up over initial showing.
And that music ...
anthony2690
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Kapshin - "will you take me back?"I'd like my ex wife to not be a bitch but that's not happening either
Ex Wife - "no"
Kapshin - "stop being a bitch"
AutumnLeaves
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Yeah, definitely the weakest Arkane game. All their previous games were amazing.
See, from 0:26-0:03, the atmosphere seems amazing. Then from 1:00, it seems so vastly different.
I'll definitely still try it but I'm cautious about it.
What was that????
I suspect they will. There isn't any reason why they wouldn't unless they were not happy with the polish of the games. Hopefully a quarter a part though. I wouldn't release any games near Starfield though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
At this point, without dates, anything is a toss up. If it was only going to be one, I'd say Redfall is more likely to drop in the window.
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They better give me Forza Motorsport 8, Redfall and Starfield in the first half of 2023 otherwise I am going to lose my shit.
Who am I kidding. I will just play them whenever they come out
mckmas8808
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So you believe Starfield is coming out next month?
First half of 2023.
remember_spinal
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Umbasaborne
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If redfall isnt til may, and starfield isn’t until after redfall, i really dont see a world where starfield launches in the first half of 23. Redfall essentially got a year delay (summer 22 to the end of spring 2023) so it wouldnt shock me if starfield got a year or so push as well to fall/holiday 23.
Ansphn
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I'm thinking Starfield is way behind in the development process than people think. Redfall showed a lot of game play and it's somehow pushed to March 2023. Starfield barely showed anything. Starfield will either be late 2023 (Holidays) or a March 2024 game.
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anthony2690
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Pretty sure we saw more Starfield gameplay than Redfall? (Unless there is another Redfall video I haven't seen)
That being said I'm really looking forward to Redfall, I really hope it does well for Arkane, they deserve a hit imo.
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Heisenberg007
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In case anyone didn't read the full article, the "early access" period (of a few days) will be exclusively for people who buy Redfall. So, owners of Redfall, will get to play Redfall a few days earlier than Gamepass Ultimate members.
Roberts
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Just like it was with Forza Horizon 5. I think it is a good strategy.
Heisenberg007
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I understand why they're doing this, but at the same time, I don't appreciate the misleading nature of it.
Gamepass owners are promised to get the game on day one, but they are now releasing the game a few days before that date in the name of "early access."
People aren't perturbed about it yet because it's only a few days. But what if they make the "early access" 3 or 6 months before the release date, which would be available to buyers and not GPU owners, who would be getting a "1.0" on the release date.
All presumptions at this point, but it is a theoretical possibility.
Roberts
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I get it. I don't think they should call early access as that term is associated with giving people a chance to play unfinished games (like Grounded) when FH5 was and I assume Redfall will be 1.0. But I have a hard time believing they will ever sell early access game 3-6 months before without giving it away on GP. So far it hasn't happened.
DenchDeckard
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3 to 6 months is crazy to think. Its then not game pass how it was promised anymore and is basically what Sony are doing.
I don't think there's any chance of that happening. Maybe a lower priced tier that offers that.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
There are rumors of a $3 - $5 Gamepass plan in the pipeline that would have XBLG, no third-party games, and first-party games after 6 months of launch.
It's not a Left 4 Dead-like game.
BiohazardX95
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It's the hype due the Bethesda purchase by Microsoft I guess, otherwise people would Say this looks generic.
gothmog
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They should probably explain that as part of their marketing. I know it's not a L4D game, but that was only after watching most of the trailers.
abacab driver
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The hate is because it's not for Playstation and it's on Gamepass day and date.
It’s receiving the same vocal minority hate that grounded, high on life, or (especially though it was warranted at first) sea of thieves got. It’s nothing new at this point, if it’s good it’ll be played by millions, if it’s not then it won’t. Only way to really judge.
LiquidMetal14
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