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Q1 '21 world console sell-through: Switch 5.8m, PS5 2.8m, X|S 1.3m

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There is only a "shortage" because PS5 is so popular. Even with a pandemic and chip constraints they are shipping and selling more than they did with the PS4 which is frankly amazing.
 
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Is this verified or another random guess outlet posing as an insider source?
Truth be told they are a mix of guessing and survey data. They don’t Have complete access. The truth is there are ZERO verifiable console sales for XSX unless it comes from MS directly or if the manufacturer would release how many consoles they have produced so far

“Our research meshes in-depth financial and KPI analysis of company performance, detailed consumer profiling and polling, and title-by-title coverage of licensing and commissioning, to provide clients with a comprehensive and accurate view of global media markets.”
It’s all research, surveys and “educated” guesses
 
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I don't believe PS5 sold over 2:1 XSX/xss.
I wouldnt bet on it, but I’ve been following the PS5 and Series X subreddits to get an inclination of it and it pretty much checks out. Mind that the subreddit is Series X, but i would assume Series S owners probably still join it. Not very scientific bit here goes:


 

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I wouldnt bet on it, but I’ve been following the PS5 and Series X subreddits to get an inclination of it and it pretty much checks out. Mind that the subreddit is Series X, but i would assume Series S owners probably still join it. Not very scientific bit here goes:


Yup, it's like this across all social media. Playstation by far gets more traffic than Xbox. It's not even close.
 

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Why do people keep saying this lie?
We can quibble about the semantics of the statement but console unit sales are not the primary metric for success for MS. Is it better to sell more than less? Of course but does the success of the brand hinge on how many Xboxes get sold? Not at all. MS is clearly more focused on their subscription services and getting those subs on as many platforms as possible. At this point they are succeeding at their intended goal.
 

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We can quibble about the semantics of the statement but console unit sales are not the primary metric for success for MS. Is it better to sell more than less? Of course but does the success of the brand hinge on how many Xboxes get sold? Not at all. MS is clearly more focused on their subscription services and getting those subs on as many platforms as possible. At this point they are succeeding at their intended goal.

I'd say it's honestly a secondary goal of theirs for the moment. Their main goal needs to be and probably is selling as many Xbox Series consoles as possible. It "should" be their main goal at least.
 
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We can quibble about the semantics of the statement but console unit sales are not the primary metric for success for MS. Is it better to sell more than less? Of course but does the success of the brand hinge on how many Xboxes get sold? Not at all. MS is clearly more focused on their subscription services and getting those subs on as many platforms as possible. At this point they are succeeding at their intended goal.
MS has claimed 18-20 million GP subscribers, and obviously there would be more subscribers on old gen than on new gen. The continued success of the brand most certainly depends on how many new gen Xbox's get sold going forward. If they can't migrate customers to new gen tech, then new gen customers will not be happy down the road when the old gen keeps driving the subscription bus.
 
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I'd say it's honestly a secondary goal of theirs for the moment. Their main goal needs to be and probably is selling as many Xbox Series consoles as possible. It "should" be their main goal at least.
Why do you think so especially in an era where getting the new console isn't very easy. If they focus on getting Game pass on PC, mobile phones, smart TVs, AND their console wouldn't that have a better chance of success for them over just selling consoles? Everyone has to understand that MS isn't playing the same game as Sony where Sony's success is predominately focused on moving PS5s.

MS has claimed 18-20 million GP subscribers, and obviously there would be more subscribers on old gen than on new gen. The continued success of the brand most certainly depends on how many new gen Xbox's get sold going forward. If they can't migrate customers to new gen tech, then new gen customers will not be happy down the road when the old gen keeps driving the subscription bus.
Where does the PC fit in your premise? How can old gen drive the subscription bus when PC will always get new games from MS going forward. At some point the old gen will stop getting support but MS has been pushing generation blending; again this is different than Sony's philosophy. MS wants to make as many of their customers happy. Phil himself stated people didn't have to rush out and buy the new Xbox if they didn't want to. Heck you don't need the new Xbox at all to play MS games.
 
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mckmas8808

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Why do you think so especially in an era where getting the new console isn't very easy. If they focus on getting Game pass on PC, mobile phones, smart TVs, AND their console wouldn't that have a better chance of success for them over just selling consoles? Everyone has to understand that MS isn't playing the same game as Sony where Sony's success is predominately focused on moving PS5s.

Because everything starts with the console. The console is the main meat and potatoes of the meal. The other stuff is dessert. Well........for MS GamePass should be the appetizer, sides, and dessert. There's a reason MS made 2 different consoles. And the Series S is 12 TFs of hardcore power! They care.
 
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Explain how it's a lie.

MS would like to sell 100 million consoles if they could. The love GP and that's okay, but the greatest way to grow GP numbers would be if they could sell 100 million consoles, instead of 50 million. Everything starts with the console and then everything else works itself out after that (with hard work and great planning).
 

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Where does the PC fit in your premise? How can old gen drive the subscription bus when PC will always get new games from MS going forward. At some point the old gen will stop getting support but MS has been pushing generation blending; again this is different than Sony's philosophy. MS wants to make as many of their customers happy. Phil himself stated people didn't have to rush out and buy the new Xbox if they didn't want to. Heck you don't need the new Xbox at all to play MS games.
I don't understand your question at all. I know GP has a PC component, and I'm not dismissing anything about it.

The framing of your question suggests you see PC as the primary focus of the Xbox and/or GP brand(s). That is not the case IMO.
 

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Those are awful numbers for Sony and MS if true. Series numbers in particular are a disaster. Not that there’s much they can do about it.

Agreed.

However the only way I could see "supply" being a legitimate concern is if this pandemic goes for much longer than expected and they are supply constrained for 3+ years. Having sales potential smashed for almost half the entire lifespan of a console is going to be a huge, huge problem.

Realistically I think supply issues will be gone within 12 months. But with all these mutated corona strains that are vaccine resistant...who knows...