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News Psychonauts 2 Console Performance And Resolutions Revealed

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I guess I said it wrong. PS5 is using a PS4 version, but instead of 30 FPS, you get
Ok. Why no HDR though? It seems like they didn't put any effort on that port. That's Ok. I guess they can have their little laugh, PS4 version is going to sell better anyway, so I don't get the lack of effort to make a better port that they undoubtedly started working on along with the PC version, and also one of the platforms that's going to sell best after PC.
 
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Playing at 60fps means some kind of effort was put in. They could've literally just left it at 30fps, but at least you have it at 60fps or maybe unlocking the framerate was something Sony changed recently? I recall another PS5 game running in back-combat that was upgraded to 60, but I can't recall the game.

I like how Sony is not to blame here for their shitty BC options. For all we know, the main development phase for this game started on last gen consoles and it's taking advantage of Xbox's GDK to put them on all with max benefit, whereas the PS5 and it's shitty BC got the shaft. That seems more accurate than a conspiracy.
 
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Playing at 60fps means some kind of effort was put in. They could've literally just left it at 30fps, but at least you have it at 60fps or maybe unlocking the framerate was something Sony changed recently? I recall another PS5 game running in back-combat that was upgraded to 60, but I can't recall the game.

I like how Sony is not to blame here for their shitty BC options. For all we know, the main development phase for this game started on last gen consoles and it's taking advantage of Xbox's GDK to put them on all with max benefit, whereas the PS5 and it's shitty BC got the shaft. That seems more accurate than a conspiracy.
That doesnt explain lack of HDR
 

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This thread is gonna go well...

I refused to make a seperate thread because I didn't want to console war bait. Looks like my efforts were futile :messenger_expressionless:
You're always butthurt about something. It's just the upscaled PS4 version running on PS5. They're partnered with Microsoft obviously so slimy Phil wants 4K ver first on Xbox. Not the end the world.
 
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From what I understand, only XSX and XSS have it is because it’s auto-HDR. OneX version doesn’t have it either.
They''re deliberately screwing the One X too, to put the Series S at the front since MS doesn't care about One X anymore. I mean, what better proof you need looking at One X playing that game 4K/30 and lacking the option to play it 1440p/60 or even 1080p/60 it's most certainly capable to do the latter. Bah, big fucking whoop, Xbox Series is saved!!
 

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They''re deliberately screwing the One X too, to put the Series S at the front since MS doesn't care about One X anymore. I mean, what better proof you need looking at One X playing that game 4K/30 and lacking the option to play it 1440p/60 or even 1080p/60 it's most certainly capable to do the latter. Bah, big fucking whoop, Xbox Series is saved!!
The CPU of the One X isn't good enough for 60 fps. No deliberate screwing involved.
 

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That doesnt explain lack of HDR
The lack of HDR is explained by not having native HDR, the game has Auto-HDR on Xbox Series consoles.
You're always butthurt about something. It's just the upscaled PS4 version running on PS5. They're partnered with Microsoft obviously so slimy Phil wants 4K ver first on Xbox. Not the end the world.
They have not partnered with Microsoft, they were bought. The only reason they are developing a next gen version is because of Microsoft's money.
 
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Bu bu but Phil said he cares about gamers wherever they play!! Lol that dude is a walking PR puff piece.
This isn't the best game to make that point when PlayStation 4 and 5 players can enjoy this title outside of the PC and Xbox ecosystems. MS is far more accommodating to other platforms than Sony ever was. Way more than just PR.
Because Phil's mouth talking about bringing games to more players. Guess it wasn't genuine.
You can't be serious. You do know this game can be played on both PS4 AND 5 right?
 

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The lack of HDR is explained by not having native HDR, the game has Auto-HDR on Xbox Series consoles.

They have not partnered with Microsoft, they were bought. The only reason they are developing a next gen version is because of Microsoft's money.
They would have done that anyway. But okay.
 

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Questioning why even bother making a PS4 version without HDR or anything. I wouldn't buy this after that post if I remotely cared for the game.
 
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Hawke502

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They would have done that anyway. But okay.
They were cutting content from the game before the acquisition, how can you say that? There would be no boss fights if not for it, i wouldn't expect a next gen version.
Questioning why even bother making a PS4 version without HDR or anything. I wouldn't buy this after that post if I remotely cared for the game.
Because the game hasn't native HDR, it was already answered here.
 

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MS is far more accommodating to other platforms than Sony ever was. Way more than just PR.

You can't be serious. You do know this game can be played on both PS4 AND 5 right?
Oh so if that were the case then why are they buying studios just to keep it off of other platforms? Why are they forcing PC gamers to use their OS instead of allowing Mac and Linux to have native games? Because it's all PR BS and they are exactly like Sony in that regard.
 

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Nasty business tactics, just make it exclusive to Xbox, but this it's just outright scandalous.
If they hadn't made a fig campaign with the PS4 version included, they would, but since they did, they were contractually obliged to make it. But don't worry, future Double Fine games will be exclusive, all good.
 

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Isn't this the game where the dev put a special woke games journalists mode for them to complete a playthrough by pressing one key in one hand while drinking a Starbucks latte or complaining about capitalism on twitter on the other, in the hopes that his mediocre game will get a good metacritic score?
 

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Oh so if that were the case then why are they buying studios just to keep it off of other platforms? Why are they forcing PC gamers to use their OS instead of allowing Mac and Linux to have native games? Because it's all PR BS and they are exactly like Sony in that regard.
Mac/linux total marketshare is like %5, and the amount of gamers in that amount is tiny. It would not be a wise business decision to waste resources for that.
 
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Sure, that's why there are no 60fps games on One X right?
I didnt say the one x cant do 60. I said just because a game does 4k/30 doesnt automatically mean it can do 60 at a lower res. It depends on how the game/engine utilizes the cpu. Just look at pc game benchmarks using the same gpu and diff cpu configurations to see big framerates discrepancies.
 
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I didnt say the one x cant do 60. I said just because a game does 4k/30 doesnt automatically mean it can do 60 at a lower res. It depends on how the game/engine utilizes the cpu. Just look at pc game benchmarks using the same gpu and diff cpu configurations to see big framerates discrepancies.
Yeah. Whatever. Thanks for stating the obvious, I guess?
 
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People complained that Xbox doesn't have exclusives, so now they have. PS4 version was promised and they will deliver it. They already did more than required by uncapping the framerate on PS5.

So is this a first party game or did MS buy exclusivity?
 

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They were cutting content from the game before the acquisition, how can you say that? There would be no boss fights if not for it, i wouldn't expect a next gen version.

Because the game hasn't native HDR, it was already answered here.
Common post sales. That's how all other companies do it. I can't say whether or not they would have all of those features. But post-game patch would've happened. Though probably not as quickly.
 

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Oh so if that were the case then why are they buying studios just to keep it off of other platforms? Why are they forcing PC gamers to use their OS instead of allowing Mac and Linux to have native games? Because it's all PR BS and they are exactly like Sony in that regard.
What computer OS has better gaming options than Windows? Which platform holder puts all their first party games on Steam, Windows Store, Xbox consoles, and cloud streaming? There is very little like Sony in that regard at all. The only similarity is they both develop games. Sony actually pays studios to not release games on Xbox which to me is far worse. At least if MS is buying the developer its no different than when Sony buys one except MS will place their games on a multitude of platforms and Sony will put them on one. With regard to THIS game MS made a PlayStation version and Sony gamers should appreciate that.
 

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Sure, that's why there are no 60fps games on One X right?

One x always had games running at 30fps. It can do whatever resolution you want, but the needle doesn't go beyond 30fps.

Dunno the reason for that but 60 fps has become a norm this gen only. 60 fps used to be PCMR luxury last gen.
 

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No only the Pro version seems to aim for a lower resolution and performance than expected when you look the target for the One, they simply refused to add settings for the PS5 forcing it to run like the Pro?
This is the sort of thing hard to justify, it's not about "the SeX own!", it's about the choices of the developers making no sense and having no justification.
Curious to see their response to the questions.
 

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What computer OS has better gaming options than Windows? Which platform holder puts all their first party games on Steam, Windows Store, Xbox consoles, and cloud streaming? There is very little like Sony in that regard at all. The only similarity is they both develop games. Sony actually pays studios to not release games on Xbox which to me is far worse. At least if MS is buying the developer its no different than when Sony buys one except MS will place their games on a multitude of platforms and Sony will put them on one. With regard to THIS game MS made a PlayStation version and Sony gamers should appreciate that.
All that text and you didn't answer a single one of his points.

Just some incoherent rambling.
 

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Funny how last gen games like Watchdogs 2, Dark souls 3 and various others had zero Xbox one X updates even though the Ps4 pro did..

Now it's switched. Sony die hards just have to swallow it I guess.
When did those games release again?
When did One X release?
When did PS4 Pro release?
Hmmm... Nah that couldn't be why.
People complained that Xbox doesn't have exclusives, so now they have. PS4 version was promised and they will deliver it. They already did more than required by uncapping the framerate on PS5.
This game isn't exclusive.
 
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No only the Pro version seems to aim for a lower resolution and performance than expected when you look the target for the One, they simply refused to add settings for the PS5 forcing it to run like the Pro?
This is the sort of thing hard to justify, it's not about "the SeX own!", it's about the choices of the developers making no sense and having no justification.
Curious to see their response to the questions.
These questions are already answered, there is no PS5 version, its back compat with PS4.
 

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It's locked 60fps, PS5 can't have unlocked frame rate modes as it doesn't support vrr
 

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This game isn't exclusive.
What I mean is that it has features exclusive to Xbox Series, like 120fps and higher res.
So yes, in some ways it is exclusive to Xbox Series.

Or one could think like this:
The base version is Xbox One and PS4, because this was originally announced and promised.
Series port is first party and next-gen exclusive.