saintjules
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Nobody said gaming was cheap.
Hes not wrong. Arrogant Sony is back but people gonna be too late to notice it. The more emphasis on PS plus and now from Sony shows MS is heading in a direction they want a slice of. Subscription model has taken over every other medium why not gaming too? Seems strange to think gaming is immune.
This is wrong info and data shows the exact opposite of your claims. Gears 4 sold almost 5x more than Gears 5, and Gears 3 before it sold 20x (twenty times) more.
Gears 5 was the most played Gears ever thanks to Gamepass, and at the same time its sales were terrible thanks to Gamepass.
Many websites that track game sales reported it sold terribly. And you could grab game pass for 1$ when gears 5 launched.
The game sold poorly and without game pass it still would have sold less than gears 4z
In that context, how do you view the success of a title like Gears 5? It's obviously not about sales for you. So how do you justify the investment in a big project like that? How do you measure its success when you've got this game that's coming out on Game Pass day and date with retail?
Phil Spencer: Gears 5 sold well for us. It sold better than Gears 4. And we feel good about it. If people want to make the choice of buying Gears, that's an option we want to give them. I'm not trying to funnel everybody who wants to play Gears into the subscription. It's about giving gamers choice. Certain players will make the decision as part of Game Pass that they'll either want to start to subscribe, or they're already a subscriber and they stay subscribed.
So official source is wrong but an "analyst" is right? The same analyst who back in 2017 said that Microsoft cutting down the funding of first party projects for Xbox division, right before they made promoted Phil to an executive and Xbox started buying first party studios.As analyst Daniel Ahmad notes, Gears of War 4 sold 4.5 times better in its launch week, and Gears of War 3 – at the height of the Xbox 360’s success and before digital distribution was a major factor – sold 20 times better.
So it's all doom and gloom because Gears 5 didn't sell well on Steam(it was in the top paid games of Xbox Store for a long time). Meanwhile Halo MCC, Flight Simulator and Sea of Theives are making records on Steam despite being present on Game Pass. Flight Simulator has been on PC Game Pass since day 1.The moment a xbox+PC game goes into gamepass at release date, its sales numbers are as good as gone.
You can also check how bad the Gears 5 sales were on the PC by looking at its Steam numbers of concurrent players. I doubt the game sold more than 75K units on Steam, and on the Microsoft Store it might be one tenth of that.
It happened Gears 5, it will happen to all of Microsoft's 1st party games. Bethesda titles included.
There's no eating the cake and keeping it too.
Its not sustainable because some dude on the internet pulled numbers out of his ass assuming they only make one fifth of the revenue they actually get?Gamepass in its current form isn't sustainable, much less with Microsoft offering 3 months of it for 1€ which is how I already got 6 months of the subscription.
I think the sooner people realize they won't get this free meal forever, the better.
Hate? I would be concerned if Microsoft treated twitter console warriors and Next Gen Spec thread posters as a target audience instead of people who actually cared about their platform.Microsoft won't deserve the hate they'll get when they inevitably need to change their pricing structure for Gamepass.
You know you can still buy games that are on gamepassThey are always Sony fanboy but when a new generation starts became punctually Xbox fanboy. Said that is not like you are forced to buy exclusive at launch. They are incredibly cheap if you waiting a bit for the PSN plus discounts, so I really don't get some argumentations. But sure if you prefer a rent service to have all the games at launch cheaply, take it. Just hope they will never touch from the catalogue some of your favourite games because you can't have it back. I never been a great fan of rent subscription models.
I feel like I'm repeating myself here but it's true- how many subscription services can you have? I'll speak on behalf of Aussies here... Youtube. Spotify. Netflix. Stan. Amazon Prime. Fetch. Kayo. Disney Plus. Foxtel Go. Shudder. Rumours of Paramount Plus coming as well. And I can only imagine how many more there are in the USA... When does it end? We want to watch something we have to have subscriptions for everything, and we are only in it's infancy!Subscription model has taken over every other medium why not gaming too? Seems strange to think gaming is immune.
It's now 8$ on Green man gaming and dirt rally 2.0 less than 5$. This is the big GP release of the month and you can just own it for a couple bucks lolNo need, dirt5 is now on gamepass
Actually there are more articles on them then why someone prefers Xbox. And we make threads out of them too.
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GQ:” Sony’s PlayStation 5 has more exclusives than the Xbox Series X can handle”
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/sony-playstation-5. // FULL ARTICLE From Horizon: Forbidden West to Spider-Man: Miles Morales, the PlayStation 5 goes big on blockbuster exclusives If every new console generation is a fight for the ages, then this current one has been a...www.neogaf.com
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PlayStation in 2021: Sony presses its advantage with a string of big exclusives
All signs indicate that PlayStation 5 came roaring out of the traps when it went on sale at the end of last year. It was to be expected: the new Sony console had a number of advantages over its Xbox rivals, including momentum from the previous generation, brand loyalty in many markets and a...www.neogaf.com
How am i lying? Add it up
It's now 8$ on Green man gaming and dirt rally 2.0 less than 5$. This is the big GP release of the month and you can just own it for a couple bucks lol
As I said, GP is only for people that don't know any better. You are not saving money. MSRP is not the real price.
Don't worry, your maths is absolutely fine.
Yeah but where am i lying as you said, i will wait for your answer
The meaning/interpretation derived from statistics is more important than the statistics themselves.
Like I said, it's not your maths that's the problem.
Its okay
So the guy who took a screenshot of a poll from a random thread I am unaware of and highlighted an option to make it look like I did vote that option, is accusing another guy of lying.
Its okayGHG you can find solace in believing anyone who does not have the same inclinations as you is paid to be so.
P.S. "We" means people who post on GAF, since someone will always make a thread out of any piece of news.
So the guy who took a screenshot of a poll from a random thread I am unaware of and highlighted an option to make it look like I did vote that option, is accusing another guy of lying.
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GamePass isn't a dollar, and when people say that its pretty much my key to exit the conversation. Let me know when I can get it for a dollar.
Sony also charges a $10 upgrade fee for the patch from PS4 to PS5 version whereas Smart Delivery is free on XBox.Because PS5 games cost $70 and Xbox Series games cost $70? Ok, then.
Also what first party Xbox games are $70?Sony also charges a $10 upgrade fee for the patch from PS4 to PS5 version whereas Smart Delivery is free on XBox.
What first-party games have launched on Xbox since the Series S|X launched last year? I know Flight Simulator got a port from PC eventually, but I'm having trouble remembering what else.Also what first party Xbox games are $70?
Just have a look at the Forza Horizon 5 or Halo Infinite pre-order or said Flight Simulator. They are all "just" 70 Euro while Sony's games are 80 Euro. Guess in dollars it's 60 vs. 70.What first-party games have launched on Xbox since the Series S|X launched last year? I know Flight Simulator got a port from PC eventually, but I'm having trouble remembering what else.