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PS4 Players Are Frustrated With Bizarre PSN Feature about the limit of cloud saves.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
And for that they give us only 2 games?! In psn plus?!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Given only a handful of people have supposedly complained about it, about 5 in 100,000,000.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
1000 saves? 
Maybe if you're OCD/Autistic and have to save 50 times every time you turn the console off you will fill it up. Otherwise, this is people bitching for the sake of bitching.
When a game is finished, keep a save from a fun fight and a save near the end of the game. The rest get wiped.
Maybe if you're OCD/Autistic and have to save 50 times every time you turn the console off you will fill it up. Otherwise, this is people bitching for the sake of bitching.
When a game is finished, keep a save from a fun fight and a save near the end of the game. The rest get wiped.
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Kagey K
Banned
If it was non existent, a player would have never found it, it obviously does exist. It doesn’t affect many players right now, but if it isn’t addressed more and more players might find themselves hitting that cap.
For instance let’s say right now I have 641 games with 1 save per game, by mid gen I will be well past that 1000 save limit, if they don’t correct it going into next gen.
Something that might seem small now, can turn into a big problem later if not looked at, similar to trying to change your name.
TimFL
Member
What do they mean by savegame? I know that several games (like Spider-Man PS4) have a gazillion savegame entries (?) when I check out the cloud saves (for every point in the story one SG). Does that count as a SG? Or are they "special" partitions of a savegame? If yes, the 1k limit could be reached very quickly with the "wrong" games being played.
That being said, PS4 cloud saves are incredibly archaic by nature. They should've opted for something like Steam Cloud saves or XB1 savegames... no reason they can't give me a toggle to always keep the cloud and my HDD in sync in terms of SG (cause I never leave my device in standby / rest mode for any potential late night sync to occur).
That being said, PS4 cloud saves are incredibly archaic by nature. They should've opted for something like Steam Cloud saves or XB1 savegames... no reason they can't give me a toggle to always keep the cloud and my HDD in sync in terms of SG (cause I never leave my device in standby / rest mode for any potential late night sync to occur).
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BTHR Zero X
Member
It is per entry, so with my dead island I have a save for each playable character which is 4 plus the data and then profile so 6.
Most games have 2 - 3 saves nowadays so 10 games is 30 saves.
The kids play LEGO Worlds and each world they go to is a new save. So they have 40+ saves on one game because that is how it is designed
JSoup
Banned
I mean, it would depend on the games you play.
Lots of small, flash games, like trophy hunters? Assuming each save is backed up, 1000 can be reached pretty easily.
However, my partner blew my cloud the fuck up in Skyrim saves when it was new on PS3 simply cause the file sizes are that game are stupid big.
Lots of small, flash games, like trophy hunters? Assuming each save is backed up, 1000 can be reached pretty easily.
However, my partner blew my cloud the fuck up in Skyrim saves when it was new on PS3 simply cause the file sizes are that game are stupid big.
nikolino840
Member
If you play Easy-kids game yes,what about rpg's? Now there Is a lot of PC-rpg like pillars/baldur's gate and others1000 saves?
Maybe if you're OCD/Autistic and have to save 50 times every time you turn the console off you will fill it up. Otherwise, this is people bitching for the sake of bitching.
When a game is finished, keep a save from a fun fight and a save near the end of the game. The rest get wiped.
Never found an hard game?
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Boss Mog
Member
Yeah... having over 1000 saves is ridiculous, I have a shitload of games and saves and it's probably in the 200-300 range. At least right now it is but with PS5 being backwards compatible and having it's own games, it's possible that they'll have to up this limit or get rid of it and just have the storage cap of 100GB at some point in the future.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
I have like 400 saves or so and I barely play games anymore. I can see a person that ONLY has a ps4 racking up these many saves.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Are we getting headlines from UK tabloids now?
Vawn
Banned
1000 cloud saves and unlimited cloud saves are identical in practice for basically everyone. But if you want to use this as a bullet in the console war, congratulations- go get those ponies.
Fox Mulder
Member
It's just an interesting limit as games are designed to create like a dozen saves now. It could be more of an issue next gen.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
I thought the SDF died 10 years ago? His point is valid and Sony should do the same. Also Nintendo.
Exactly.
BTHR Zero X
Member
Currently I have 89 saved games on my HDD
with 269 saves total because they way games split settings, user data, profile data, and save progress
and as I said about LEGO Worlds that game has 64 Saves on its own.
So yeah I haven't even hit 100 PS4 games and have over 1 quarter of the limit hit.
with 269 saves total because they way games split settings, user data, profile data, and save progress
and as I said about LEGO Worlds that game has 64 Saves on its own.
So yeah I haven't even hit 100 PS4 games and have over 1 quarter of the limit hit.
TacosNSalsa
Member
And the person complaining about this is surprised no one else is talking about it or sees to care.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Around 3 saves per game? That is very light.
Pallas
Gold Member
It could potentially be a problem assuming these saves carry over to next gen and with the PS5 assumingely backwards compatible with PS4 games.
This is probably a non issue for most currently but I can see it being a bigger problem down the road. Maybe they’ll sell you cloud space similar to what Apple does? Or just copy Microsoft and make it free and unlimited(if they are able to)
This is probably a non issue for most currently but I can see it being a bigger problem down the road. Maybe they’ll sell you cloud space similar to what Apple does? Or just copy Microsoft and make it free and unlimited(if they are able to)
kevin_trinh
Member
but its has no game, what the point for unlimited saves file while you only play 1 game on Xbox?
PocoJoe
Banned
I roughly calculated all ps+ ps4 games or crossplay ps4 games and it is around 200 titles. I have tested most of them
1 save per title = 200 saves
Then games I have bought = 130
So that is around 333 saves.
If game would have average of 3 files =1000 saves full.
But maybe average gamer doesnt take all ps+ games and test them, or buy 100+ games
1 save per title = 200 saves
Then games I have bought = 130
So that is around 333 saves.
If game would have average of 3 files =1000 saves full.
But maybe average gamer doesnt take all ps+ games and test them, or buy 100+ games
radewagon
Member
01011001
Banned
well you also just ignored the fact that on Xbox One it's free and on PS4 you need PS+
that's why it's such a joke.
Xbox One = Free + Unlimited
PS4 = $50-$70 a year(depending on region and deals) + Limited to 1000
cormack12
Gold Member
Probably someone with a shared/family account. But I bet most of this problem is just leaving auto upload on. People don't manage their data. You have the option to export and stick them in Google drive or onedrive for archiving. Temporary backup and deep archive are completely different things.
I've never had an issue with cloud saved space. It's just fine.
This is one of those cases where 2 or 3% of all the people complain, and do so very loudly and make an issue of it. End result is it seems like a problem when really it isn't at all. This is a situation of "you can't make everybody happy all the time". No company is going to invest 10x the money, time and effort into trying to please a very tiny portion of their customers as it makes no sense to do so..
If those few don't like it then they can backup some to flash drives, not all games allow you to backup a save but quite a few do, you can buy a bigger hard drive for your system, or you can delete some of the cloud ones you won't ever play again.
Kind of stinks of entitlement where they think everything should be how they want when in reality nothing is ever really that way. Besides if this douce can complain so much about cloud save limits he should be truly thankful because he has the most awesome life ever that if this is the biggest problem in your life worth that much attention then he has no real problems at all.
This is one of those cases where 2 or 3% of all the people complain, and do so very loudly and make an issue of it. End result is it seems like a problem when really it isn't at all. This is a situation of "you can't make everybody happy all the time". No company is going to invest 10x the money, time and effort into trying to please a very tiny portion of their customers as it makes no sense to do so..
If those few don't like it then they can backup some to flash drives, not all games allow you to backup a save but quite a few do, you can buy a bigger hard drive for your system, or you can delete some of the cloud ones you won't ever play again.
Kind of stinks of entitlement where they think everything should be how they want when in reality nothing is ever really that way. Besides if this douce can complain so much about cloud save limits he should be truly thankful because he has the most awesome life ever that if this is the biggest problem in your life worth that much attention then he has no real problems at all.
quickwhips
Member
Vawn
Banned
You won't. But it let's people claim that it makes the PS4 completely unusable because then need tens of thousands of save files backed up to the cloud at all times.
Mista
Banned
Sorry mate but I’m not interested
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
We don't condone excessive behaviour or habits.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
What does difficulty have to do with anything?
Autosave + one save every fifteen minutes saves a lot of time. No need for 1000 saves and eve IF I wanted to make a save every minute, for six hours it would only be 360 saves.
1000 limit is well beyond reasonable. Especially considering my HDD (biggest I could get at the time) couldn't handle 1000 saves back in the day when I played OG baldurs gate. or my PS1 memory card having only 15 blocks...
cryptoadam
Banned
I suggest getting outside and enjoying the sun.
this is only a problem the extreme minority will have, and TBH if it gets to that point ya I think you need to look at spending a little bit of time and money away from gaming.
Nothing wrong with playing games, enjoying them, being involved in communities, but there is more to life than video games.
this is only a problem the extreme minority will have, and TBH if it gets to that point ya I think you need to look at spending a little bit of time and money away from gaming.
Nothing wrong with playing games, enjoying them, being involved in communities, but there is more to life than video games.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
It's still there for some reason, those saves do pileup over the years, and with the price of storage and modern file systems there is no apparent reason for this to be (I mean, the programmers maybe though that this was overkill for some strange reason).
Maybe a single game can have more than one "save".
Anyway, what I really meant to say is that with what PS+ has to offer online storage of your save games should not be limited in any way.
Tiamat2san
Member
Is it 1000 games saves or 1000 saves from games?
On Xbox one I have i got 416 installed (or ready to) but some have tons of save files so i guess I have more than 1000 saves.
On Xbox one I have i got 416 installed (or ready to) but some have tons of save files so i guess I have more than 1000 saves.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Agreed wtf is this thread even a thing
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
It's not the end of the world, but I do think this was an oversight.
newtypepilot
Member
literally first world problems as I highly doubt most users have 1000+ of saves.
Klayzer
Member
Plus Xbox doesn't have a local option. The gamers that are affected could also use a USB drive to store their saves on the PS4, which to me is the better option. Complete control of all of your saves with the latter.