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PS Blog |OT| Your full guide to the all-new PlayStation Plus

Draugoth

Gold Member
The PS4 and PS5 Game Catalog is exclusive to PlayStation Plus Extra and upward tiers?

I still think PlayStation Plus Premium is still over priced, expecially compared to Xbox Game Pass that will be getting all Activision Blizzard games day one.

Pretty much. Essential is only Free Games + Online Play

I have a hard time believing the "700+ games" statement, but let's see.

So are there 700 games that are included in this service? It doesn’t look or feel like it.

Pretty certain that number of games wont be available until the full launch
 
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Draugoth

Gold Member
Full launch in US or Europe? - cause I don't believe Europe will get as many games as US.

Worldwide i believe, the new PS Plus will slowly be rolled out. I assume the 700+ Games will only be available when the service is fully integrated across the world.
 

DelireMan7

Member
Nice thread ! Thanks for this summary !

Still pissed that the PS1 and PS2 games are in a superior tiers.

I have to look the list of PS1/2 games but will probably not upgrade for them.

Edit :does games not released in Europe (like Parasite eve or Chrono cross) will be available in europe on PS plus now ?
 
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GreatnessRD

Member
Was ready to give Sony the coins, but saw PC was streaming only. Pass.

Still hoping for my Gran Turismo 7, MLB: The Show, and Ghost of Tsushima standard release on PC, though.
 

engstra

Member
So this is saying that all classic games will be streaming only? I thought ps3 games had to be streamed but PS1, PS2 and PSP games would be downloadable?
 

engstra

Member
$120 at once is a little bit hard to swallow for regular people.
I dont know how much you make, but no sane person would spend that much on a subscription service for entertainment, aside of utility.
Considering we're already paying half of that for the essential tier, it's not a huge bump and well worth it IMO
 
Great update. Sucks that my little brother is taking his ps5 to Europe, and I will be with no ps5 until august.

Buy your own, man, instead of freeloading off your little brother.

I grew up in a house with 3 brothers. Sharing a console was often the cause of much of our domestic sibling warfare. As soon as I started earning my own money, I owned all my own consoles.

This way I get to play Hatoful Boyfriend in peace.
 

jorgejjvr

Member
Question, I am forgetting, how much is 1 year of gamepass ultimate?

I always get it on discount and stack up, so I dont remember the real price, and when I look on amazon I dont see a code for 1 year, only 3 months. Cant find 6 months or 1 year for some reason

3 months right now is going for (on discount), at $39.99. That would make a year at $160

So $99.99 for Extra is not bad, like at all.
 
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kingfey

Banned
I'm sorry, but that makes ZERO sense. Unless you are very disciplined with turning on and off subs.
Not alot of people can stomach paying that much for a subscription service.

Only people who can, are those have enough money, which they can afford to spend that much on entertainment.

$120 isn't easy money😕.
 

kingfey

Banned
Buy your own, man, instead of freeloading off your little brother.

I grew up in a house with 3 brothers. Sharing a console was often the cause of much of our domestic sibling warfare. As soon as I started earning my own money, I owned all my own consoles.

This way I get to play Hatoful Boyfriend in peace.
Can't buy a 2nd one, if there is one in the house right now. Maybe after 1 year. But right now, I have other priorities. Plus I still don't have xsx, or upgrade money for my pc.

I plan to buy it once, I have enough money though. Can't keep using his ps5 for longer.
 

MikeM

Member
Why do I feel like you are out of touch? Do you think normal people are happy to drop $120 on a gaming subscription service?
Unless you have the money to make that normal, no normal human would spend that much money.

I am sorry, but I live in real world, where most Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
Shit I stacked 3 years of Gold for GP. I guess i’m rich!
Nba Youngboy Money GIF by YoungBoy Never Broke Again


In all seriousness, you do whats best for you and your budget. If paying monthly works for you, then go for it.
 
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Not alot of people can stomach paying that much for a subscription service.

Only people who can, are those have enough money, which they can afford to spend that much on entertainment.

$120 isn't easy money😕.
If you can't afford $120, spending $216 of spread out payments is not an intelligent use of your money. That's almost a 100% interest rate.

Save the $120 first, then get the service.

If you're doing this for this service, chances are you're doing this for all sorts of things and is why you don't feel like you have money.

Be smarter and more disciplined.
 
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kingfey

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If you can't afford $120, spending $216 of spread out payments is not an intelligent use of your money. That's almost a 100% interest rate.

Save the $120 first, then get the service.

If you're doing this for this service, chances are you're doing this for all sorts of things and is why you don't feel like you have money.

Be smarter and more disciplined.
Even if you save $120, you aren't going to spend it on subscription service.

When money is tight, other things take priority.

Your idea is great, if you are someone who is thinking for long term.

Paycheck to paycheck people don't have that luxury.

That monthly payment is 3 sandwiches a month. It's affordable, and can be recouped every paycheck. You aren't losing money in the long term.
 
Paycheck to paycheck people don't have that luxury.
Yes, they do. You save until you have the money instead of paying double. I can tell you're probably still a teenager, but trust me, these are habits you want to establish now.
 
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Captiosus

Member
Yes, they do. You save until you have the money instead of paying double. I can tell you're probably still a teenager, but trust me, these are habits you want to establish now.
Kingfey's post you're responding to makes it easy to understand (and depressing to see) how so many people get bamboozled into taking out high interest payday loans. Short term thinking, long term losses.
 
Kingfey's post you're responding to makes it easy to understand (and depressing to see) how so many people get bamboozled into taking out high interest payday loans. Short term thinking, long term losses.
Yup. He literally said you'd have to be stupid to spend $120 at once when you just take $18 out of your paycheck every month.

Usually people only think this on a subconscious level, as saying it out loud makes most people realize how ridiculous that is. If you can't afford $120, why can you afford $216 for the exact same thing?

It's easy to see how these types of decisions can put people in debt regardless of their income, because there are countless companies who will happily tax ignorance and low willpower.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
So are there 700 games that are included in this service? It doesn’t look or feel like it.
They really need to get some PS2 games on this beyond remasters.

Yes i had a feeling they would only put the PS2 games that were already on the PS4. Theres so many more on the PS3. Give me Digital Devil Saga I&II
 

The Shepard

Member
What PS Classic Games will support Trophies?

A Number of PS1 and PSP Games will have support for trophies, the game list can be found below (note that addition of games with trophies are up to developers and not enforced by Sony)
• I.Q.: Intelligent
• Jumping Flash!
• Mr. Driller
• Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
• Syphon Philter
• Tekken 2:
• Wild Arms
• Worms Armageddon
• Worms World Party

Some of these don't support trophys so this part is wrong. I was thinking tekken 2 had trophys but it does not
 

Schmick

Member
As a PS Now for PC user I assume that I will also be allocated to Premium tier. From what I have read I don't think there will be a price increase for me at launch. What that means after I don't know (I payed for a year (no discount)).

Disappointed though that PS5 games are not available for streaming and no news of when this might happen. Still there are plenty of PS3/PS4 games for me to play.

Really want to see that the full games list. No God of War (PS3 games) listed at the moment.
 

yurinka

Member
As a PS Now for PC user I assume that I will also be allocated to Premium tier. From what I have read I don't think there will be a price increase for me at launch. What that means after I don't know (I payed for a year (no discount)).

Disappointed though that PS5 games are not available for streaming and no news of when this might happen. Still there are plenty of PS3/PS4 games for me to play.

Really want to see that the full games list. No God of War (PS3 games) listed at the moment.
Yes, PS Plus Premium will replace PS Now, meaning that to stream cloud gaming stuff on PC you'll need PS Plus Premium. If you still have a year of Now, when released in your region your Now account will be migrated to PS Plus Premium with the same expiration date you had before.

The current list has under 270 games but at launch (I assume they meant once released in all regions) was supposed to have over 700 games, so they should keep adding games during the upcoming weeks. In the few Asian countries where they released it this week they don't have cloud gaming support, meaning that there are pretty likely a handful hundreds of PS3 games missing there.

In addition to this traditionally many games aren't released in these Asian countries, so couldn't be there. I think next week they'l add many Japanese games in its Japanese release, and they they'll add more western games as they release in USA and Europe.
 
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Hmm anyone know if all the current PS Now games will be on it? I'm currently playing Spec Ops The Line, wondering if I need to finish it before this conversion happens.
 

LongFarGone

Neo Member
I was going to stick with Essential. Between PS Plus and PS5 Collection my backlog is insane as it is but Extra might very well tempt me depending what's on there. Can't say I'm interested in the higher tiers, I already lived through the PS1-PS3 eras; retro graphics aren't something I can tolerate these days, it's actually amazing how bad they look now. :messenger_grimmacing_
 
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scydrex

Member
Not alot of people can stomach paying that much for a subscription service.

Only people who can, are those have enough money, which they can afford to spend that much on entertainment.

$120 isn't easy money😕.

Sure but like i have said in other threads. I got my PS5 this year. Haven´t played Death Stranding DC, Ghost of Tushima DC, Returnal, Demon Souls and Miles Morales. That´s a total of $295 in Amazon right brand new. The extra is $100. How much will i save if i pay for the extra for 1yr?
 
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jaysius

Member
Looks like that article about required trials wasn't so real.

Time-limited game trials on blockbuster titles

BLOCKBUSTER, wow, there's a word I haven't seen in a long time.

It's just as predicted, a flakey perk with now revealed ambiguous wording this one will get dropped early on and never replaced. Like the last time they said they'd give trials, and that got dropped and never replaced.
 

kingfey

Banned
Sure but like i have said in other threads. I got my PS5 this year. Haven´t played Death Stranding DC, Ghost of Tushima DC, Returnal, Demon Souls and Miles Morales. That´s a total of $295 in Amazon right brand new. The extra is $100. How much will i save if i pay for the extra for 1yr?
You will save more if you pay the monthly.
18×3=$54.
You can finish those games in 3 months.

The point for the monthly is managing the price, at affordable pace. You can get the benefits that it has, then cancel it, when it doesn't have what you need.

Long term is only worth it, when the values is 100% there, and you can afford it for those 12 months. And you have to experience those values.
 

NickFire

Member
You will save more if you pay the monthly.
18×3=$54.
You can finish those games in 3 months.

The point for the monthly is managing the price, at affordable pace. You can get the benefits that it has, then cancel it, when it doesn't have what you need.

Long term is only worth it, when the values is 100% there, and you can afford it for those 12 months. And you have to experience those values.
This is not good advice to spread IMO.
 

scydrex

Member
You will save more if you pay the monthly.
18×3=$54.
You can finish those games in 3 months.

The point for the monthly is managing the price, at affordable pace. You can get the benefits that it has, then cancel it, when it doesn't have what you need.

Long term is only worth it, when the values is 100% there, and you can afford it for those 12 months. And you have to experience those values.

3 month of extra is $40 and premium is $50. It's not cheaper to pay monthly maybe for 1 or two month. What if i decide to keep the service longer than 3 or 6 month?

Like i said in my example i save $195 even if i pay 1yr or more if i only pay 3 month of extra instead of buying those 5 games individually. Also they will keep adding games. That's is the beginning of the service.
 
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kingfey

Banned
3 month of extra is $40 and premium is $50. It's not cheaper to pay monthly maybe for 1 or two month. What if i decide to keep the service longer than 3 or 6 month?

Like i said in my example i save $195 even if i pay 1yr or more if i only pay 3 month of extra instead of buying those 5 games individually. Also they will keep adding games. That's is the beginning of the service.
difference is that, you are getting the monthly value immediately, compared to the yearly. 4-6 months is the minimum amount needed to justify the yearly value.

You will save money in the long term, but you will need to get the value in those months.

For monthly, each big game is enough to give you sense of value.

Keep in mind that monthly users also get the same benefits as the yearly users.

The only difference, would be the last months, which monthly users would spend more money. By that time, they experienced same value, or more than what the yearly users experienced.
 

kingfey

Banned
This is not good advice to spread IMO.
How is that a bad advice?
Unless you are guarantee to get the value of your money, yearly payments isnt worth it.

PS+, xbox live gold are worth it, simply because you are paying double for a simple service if you are a monthly user. That is where the 1 year long term has value.
 

NickFire

Member
How is that a bad advice?
Unless you are guarantee to get the value of your money, yearly payments isnt worth it.

PS+, xbox live gold are worth it, simply because you are paying double for a simple service if you are a monthly user. That is where the 1 year long term has value.
It is awful advice unless you want to justify someone else's lack of an annual option. I suppose it might just be shell shock at someone else's 2022 lineup making you advocate for monthly fees instead of a cheaper annual plan, but come on man, this is Sony, and there will be games.
 

kingfey

Banned
It is awful advice unless you want to justify someone else's lack of an annual option. I suppose it might just be shell shock at someone else's 2022 lineup making you advocate for monthly fees instead of a cheaper annual plan, but come on man, this is Sony, and there will be games.
Doesnt matter who the company is. There is no immediate value for the yearly, until you pass certain period, which you will see the value.

For example, gamepass has 3 year plan, for $180. You will be saving $360. But your actually savings for that, would start after that 1 year. Essentially, you are waiting 1 year to see your actual value.
So technically, its not worth it, unless you want to save money, and you are 100% sure, you will be using that service for that duration.

This is the way companies use to get people locked in to their ecosystem. Why do you think MS doesnt close that 1 year loophole for gamepass? Simply because those users cant cancel their subscription service until the last day for their subscription. Meanwhile, those users would act as numbers for investors.

As for paycheck to paycheck people, the yearly option is bad for them, as that money would help them cover some of other utilities. One of the key reasons, why I didn't hop on gamepass loophole step. Anything can criple me, and I need the money to fix it.

Just this week, I had to pay $250 to fix the flex pipe in my car. You can get issues like these anytime, and you need the money to fix it.
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
You will save more if you pay the monthly.
18×3=$54.
You can finish those games in 3 months.

The point for the monthly is managing the price, at affordable pace. You can get the benefits that it has, then cancel it, when it doesn't have what you need.

Long term is only worth it, when the values is 100% there, and you can afford it for those 12 months. And you have to experience those values.
If a game hits the service that you want to play, you can finish it in a month, and $18 is less than it costs to buy it then your math works If you only do it every other month or so. If you pay for 7 individual months in a single year then you would have been better off paying for a full year. Some people can't afford $120 all at once and I get that. But since these aren't new games we're talking about it probably makes sense to save up 20 bucks a month somewhere and wait 6 months to subscribe, then save back the money to pay for the next year. That's if effective money management is actually the goal.

Sony is definitely hoping to get most people signed up for a monthly subscription because it maximizes their recurring revenue. seems like such a waste to pay monthly. But if that's all someone can do then that's what they can do.
 

NickFire

Member
Doesnt matter who the company is. There is no immediate value for the yearly, until you pass certain period, which you will see the value.

For example, gamepass has 3 year plan, for $180. You will be saving $360. But your actually savings for that, would start after that 1 year. Essentially, you are waiting 1 year to see your actual value.
So technically, its not worth it, unless you want to save money, and you are 100% sure, you will be using that service for that duration.

This is the way companies use to get people locked in to their ecosystem. Why do you think MS doesnt close that 1 year loophole for gamepass? Simply because those users cant cancel their subscription service until the last day for their subscription. Meanwhile, those users would act as numbers for investors.

As for paycheck to paycheck people, the yearly option is bad for them, as that money would help them cover some of other utilities. One of the key reasons, why I didn't hop on gamepass loophole step. Anything can criple me, and I need the money to fix it.

Just this week, I had to pay $250 to fix the flex pipe in my car. You can get issues like these anytime, and you need the money to fix it.
The schtick is getting old. You are literally telling someone to pay essentially double what they have to by going monthly, and circling back to remind everyone of a promo deal for GP (does it even still exist). If you want to argue about the value of the stack gold and covert deal (if it still exists) vs the annual price for + there are better threads for that.

PSA everyone - paying double is never the better deal.
 

Fake

Member
Someone here already buy one of those classic games separately? Are some internet connection/DRM in place on those emulators?
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Someone here already buy one of those classic games separately? Are some internet connection/DRM in place on those emulators?
Probably not. It probably has the emulator wrapper contained in each individual game themselves. Like how it was on the PS4.
 
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