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|OT| PlayStation Studios [OT] Where Every Day Is A Wednesday

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Great job and nice visual presentation, it's very eyes catchy.
The last job offer seem to be focused on ongoing growth via strategic acquisitions. "inorganic growth" as in opportunist investments, in opposition with "organic growth" = acquistions of long term partner studios ?
 
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Sony looks to have another studio in its crosshairs.


Well, they will partake in the consolidation process, whether they want to or not. I expect them to get Arrowhead in the near future, plus, maybe, Lucid Games. In fact, I expect them to get many more European studios - to bolster their presence over there - and a couple of Asian ones. In addition they need to acquire small VR teams, and a mobile gaming publisher as well...
 
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Sony looks to have another studio in its crosshairs.

Nice. But they don''t need to hire someone to know they should buy Kadokawa, ARC System Works, Supermassive, Quantic Dream or Kojipro. And a top mobile gaming publisher. Or if you ask me, Capcom.

Well, they will partake in the consolidation process, whether they want to or not. I expect them to get Arrowhead in the near future, plus, maybe, Lucidgames. In fact, I expect them to get more many more European studios - to bolster their presence over there - and a couple of Asian ones. In addition they need to acquire small VR teams, and a mobile gaming publisher as well...
Lucid has people with Bizarre Creations and Liverpool Studio pedigree like Firesprite and are set in the same city, so would be nice to absorb it into Firesprite.

Regarding Arrowhead, I may be wrong but they only made a single game for Sony. A game that got good reviews but not sure if sold well. They are now working on a AAA game, but until now they made a type of game already covered in Sony by Housemarque, who moved to a AAA focus. So I think that if Sony considers to acquire them, before they'd want to know how their AAA game performs.
 
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I've added some more info/links/trailers to HouseMarquee, Insomniac and London.
Will slowly get to the others... in time.

EDIT: I've removed Nixxes for now, will add them back if they ever make their own game.
 
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Great job and nice visual presentation, it's very eyes catchy.
The last job offer seem to be focused on ongoing growth via strategic acquisitions. "inorganic growth" as in opportunist investments, in opposition with "organic growth" = acquistions of long term partner studios ?
It says ‘and m&a’ which is mergers and acquisitions.
 

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I've updated so each team has something in spoilers, also have run into an issue where only 10 media elements are allowed per post... will keep only the latest/main trailer available and see how that goes :-/
 
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Well, they will partake in the consolidation process, whether they want to or not. I expect them to get Arrowhead in the near future, plus, maybe, Lucidgames. In fact, I expect them to get more many more European studios - to bolster their presence over there - and a couple of Asian ones. In addition they need to acquire small VR teams, and a mobile gaming publisher as well...

They just need Arc System works or NetherRealm and then Square Enix before the 30th anniversary of PlayStation.

Since well over half of Squares income is from mobile and another chunk is from anime and film etc.

Arc ties into the anime, EVO and fighting game gap.

Lucid have not proven themselves and Arrowhead will not elevate the group of studios..... maybe if their next game is a hit. I'd prefer IOI or something like that.
 
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bitbydeath bitbydeath PixelOpus have a new logo



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Great job on the OP

Are Xdev just working on ports then?
XDev provide support to third party studios when making first party games.

Eg.
Sackboy - Sumo Digital
Destruction All-Stars - Lucid Games
Returnal - HouseMarque (prepurchase)
 
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Great job on the OP

Are Xdev just working on ports then?
XDEV are support statf that help produce 1st party games being made by external developers (not owned by Sony.) Its for supporting & managing eXternal DEVelopment.

They don't make their own games, or do ports, etc.
 
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If we assume the following are the first party releases for 2022

Uncharted LOT Collection
Horizon Forbidden West
Gran Turismo 7
God of War Ragnarok

Anyone care to guess what we'll get in 2023??

Spider-Man 2
......
 

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If we assume the following are the first party releases for 2022

Uncharted LOT Collection
Horizon Forbidden West
Gran Turismo 7
God of War Ragnarok

Anyone care to guess what we'll get in 2023??

Spider-Man 2
......

Spidey 2
TLOU online
a few VR games, whenever that launches
(Firesprite, Asobi, London, etc)

maybe Bend's game
or the 2nd game Guerrilla has been making

Don't count out Bluepoint. They remade Demon's Souls in less than 36 months. They could possibly have something coming for late 2023, tho more likely for early 2024. Could be a smaller shorter game, like Miles Morales & Lost Legacy.
 

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Spidey 2
TLOU online
a few VR games, whenever that launches
(Firesprite, Asobi, London, etc)

maybe Bend's game
or the 2nd game Guerrilla has been making

Don't count out Bluepoint. They remade Demon's Souls in less than 36 months. They could possibly have something coming for late 2023, tho more likely for early 2024. Could be a smaller shorter game, like Miles Morales & Lost Legacy.

Yeah I think Bluepoint will probably have something out by then. A lot depends on how true these Bloodborne rumours are: if they're just doing a glorified remaster of that (as well as something else) then I could see that coming out even next year, let alone 2023.

I think it's too early for Bend's new game, if Schreier is right about them starting on that relatively recently.

I'll guess:

Spider-Man 2
TLOU Remake
TLOU Factions
Guerrilla 2nd team game
1 of the Firesprite projects
 

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Lucid have not proven themselves and Arrowhead will not elevate the group of studios..... maybe if their next game is a hit. I'd prefer IOI or something like that.
I think that if they buy Lucid would be to integrate it into Firesprite since they are in the same city and have former Studio Liverpool and Bizarre creations staff more than their own merits as Lucid in case they want to grow Firesprite more. In fact there's former Lucid staff in Firesprite and former Firesprite staff in Lucid. So their integration of Studio Liverpool, Evolution and Bizarre Creations into a single studio would be more complete.
 
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If we assume the following are the first party releases for 2022

Uncharted LOT Collection
Horizon Forbidden West
Gran Turismo 7
God of War Ragnarok

Anyone care to guess what we'll get in 2023??

Spider-Man 2
......
2022:
  • Astro Bot 2 (PS5/VR2)
  • Bloodborne remaster
  • God of War: Ragnarok
  • Gran Turismo 7 (PS5/VR2)
  • Horizon: Forbidden West
  • Helldivers 2
  • Impulse Gear's Game (VR2)
  • The Last Of Us Remake
  • Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection
  • VR2 remasters of Astro Bot, Blood & Truth, Farpoint, and Marvel's Iron Man VR
2023:
  • Bluepoint's PS3 Remake
  • Firewalk's New IP
  • From Software's New IP
  • Horizon VR (VR2)
  • inFAMOUS
  • Marvel's Spider-Man 2
  • PixelOpus' New Game
  • Santa Monica's New IP
  • The Last Of Us: Factions
  • Twisted Metal
  • WipEout (PS5/VR2)
Those are my guesses...
 
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  • 2022:
    • Gran Turismo 7 (PS5/VR2)
    • Horizon: Forbidden West
    • Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection
    • The Last Of Us Remake (PS5+PC)
    • TLOU2 Director's Cut (TLOU1R + TLOU2 PS5 bundle)
    • Arrowhead's AAA new IP
    • PSVR2
    • Astro Bot 2 (PS5/VR2)
    • Impulse Gear's VR2 Game
    • VR2 remasters of Astro Bot, Blood & Truth, Farpoint, Wipeout VR
    • God of War: Ragnarok

    2023:
    • Bloodborne PS5+PC remaster with extra content
    • Firewalk's New IP
    • Marvel's Spider-Man 2
    • PixelOpus'+Sony Pictures Animation New Game
    • The Last Of Us 2: Factions
    • Twisted Metal
    • WipEout (PS5/VR2)
    • Horizon VR game
    • Santa Monica's New IP
    Those are my guesses...
Fixed

maybe Bend's game
They started it in 2019 or 2020. So don't expect their new IP to be released until 2024-2026.
 
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My take:
-Spider-Man 2 releases in 2023. I'd say they'll show instead another Horizon 2 gameplay instead.
-TLOU1 remake PS5 + PC
-TLOU2 Director's Cut: TLOU2 PS5 + TLOU1 remake bundle
-TLOU Factions 2
-PSVR2
-Astro Bot 2 VR (Asobi)
-Horizon VR (London + Firesprite)
-Firewalk new IP

Think you might have misread my post? I was guessing 2023 releases.... not sure what a Horizon 2 gameplay showing has to do with that...
 
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2022:
  • Astro Bot 2 (PS5/VR2)
  • Bloodborne remaster
  • God of War: Ragnarok
  • Gran Turismo 7 (PS5/VR2)
  • Horizon: Forbidden West
  • Helldivers 2
  • Impulse Gear's VR2 Game
  • The Last Of Us Remake
  • Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection
  • VR2 remasters of Astro Bot, Blood & Truth, Farpoint, and Marvel's Iron Man VR
2023:
  • Bluepoint's PS3 Remake
  • Firewalk's New IP
  • From Software's New IP
  • Horizon VR (VR2)
  • inFAMOUS
  • Marvel's Spider-Man 2
  • PixelOpus' New Game
  • Santa Monica's New IP
  • The Last Of Us: Factions
  • Twisted Metal
  • WipEout (PS5/VR2)
Those are my guesses...

Think that's pretty damn optimistic tbh.

Also, I just can't see Infamous getting a new game. It's not a strong IP and Sucker Punch have just had their first major with Ghost. They're going to be on that for the entire generation, more than likely.

It's like people arguing for Guerrilla to do another Killzone... just not gonna happen imo. We're talking about almost objectively weaker IP. Or ND and Jan and Dexter.
 

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Think that's pretty damn optimistic tbh.

Also, I just can't see Infamous getting a new game. It's not a strong IP and Sucker Punch have just had their first major with Ghost. They're going to be on that for the entire generation, more than likely.

It's like people arguing for Guerrilla to do another Killzone... just not gonna happen imo. We're talking about almost objectively weaker IP. Or ND and Jan and Dexter.
I know it may seem like super optimistic at first glance, but to be honest Sony has a lot (and I mean A LOT) of games in development, so once the impact of the pandemic starts to finally fade away, we'll begin to have some amazing years when it comes to first-party output.

The inFAMOUS game is reportedly not being developed by Sucker Punch, so it doesn't really matter whether SP are busy with Ghost or not.
 

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They have a team working on a multiplayer game. The rumor was Socom though not Killzone.

Has the second team ever actually been confirmed? I just tend to take it as read, but I'm not sure it's ever been acknowledged anywhere.

Regarding Killzone specifically, I meant that they won't go back to it as their big single player vehicle, as a break from Horizon or whatever. For me they've moved on to something bigger and better and that's that.

Regarding the MP game, I think the latest rumour is actually another Horizon game, but who knows, really.
 

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I know it may seem like super optimistic at first glance, but to be honest Sony has a lot (and I mean A LOT) of games in development, so once the impact of the pandemic starts to finally fade away, we'll begin to have some amazing years when it comes to first-party output.

The inFAMOUS game is reportedly not being developed by Sucker Punch, so it doesn't really matter whether SP are busy with Ghost or not.

Yeah I think we will get a substantial uplift in first party releases, maybe 6 a year or so. Maybe even 8 with VR games included. I just think 10+ is pretty unlikely.

Where exactly did the Infamous rumour come from? I forget. I dunno, it just doesn't seem that likely to me.
 
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Yeah I think we will get a substantial uplift in first party releases, maybe 6 a year or so. Maybe even 8 with VR games included. I just think 10+ is pretty unlikely.

Where exactly did the Infamous rumour come from? I forget. I dunno, it just doesn't seem that likely to me.
The inFAMOUS game was publicly talked about by Nick on the XboxEra podcast, but I had also heard rumblings of it myself through the grapevine, so this is one rumor that I'm sort of buying into personally.
Has the second team ever actually been confirmed? I just tend to take it as read, but I'm not sure it's ever been acknowledged anywhere.
Guerrilla actually said that they were aiming at becoming a multi-team studio back in 2018 when they announced their plans for moving into a bigger building the following year. This was shortly after Simon Larouche got hired and appointed as director on a yet to be unveiled "secret" project.
 
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The inFAMOUS game was publicly talked about by Nick on the XboxEra podcast, but I had also heard rumblings of it myself through the grapevine, so this is one rumor that I'm sort of buying into personally.

Guerrilla actually said that they were aiming at becoming a multi-team studio back in 2018 when they announced their plans for moving into a bigger building the following year. This was shortly after Simon Larouche got hired and appointed as director on a yet to be unveiled "secret" project.

Ok yeah that seems like solid info, in both cases.

Kind of weird to me how they'd bother with Infamous, but who knows. Surely getting a new Uncharted made is the real priority, although maybe they're on that too.
 

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Kind of weird to me how they'd bother with Infamous, but who knows. Surely getting a new Uncharted made is the real priority, although maybe they're on that too.
Yeah, but if other much more obscure/forgotten franchises such as Wipeout, Twisted Metal or Sly Cooper are also getting new games on the PS5, then it becomes less surprising to see a relatively successful IP such as inFAMOUS making a return as well.

About Uncharted and knowing that Naughty Dog has brought back Shaun Escayg (The Lost Legacy) as a creative director and writer on a project, I'd expect the studio to do something with the series sometime in the future, especially given Sony's high hopes for the Uncharted movie.
 

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Yeah, but if other much more obscure/forgotten franchises such as Wipeout, Twisted Metal or Sly Cooper are also getting new games on the PS5, then it becomes less surprising to see a relatively successful IP such as inFAMOUS making a return as well.

About Uncharted and knowing that Naughty Dog has brought back Shaun Escayg (The Lost Legacy) as a creative director and writer on a project, I'd expect the studio to do something with the series sometime in the future, especially given Sony's high hopes for the Uncharted movie.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Sly Cooper thing. Apparently Grubb said that's happening - another weird one.

It's not so much that they're bad ideas, just more that how many damn exclusives do they actually NEED? I always thought 2 or 3 a year was definitely too few, but more than 6 or so seems like overkill.

Re Uncharted, yeah I've got my fingers crossed there. I love that series and surely - SURELY - Sony wouldn't let it just die. And per Schreier they were working on one with Bend, so it doesn't seem plausible that they'd let the franchise rot just because Bend decided they didn't want to work on it. So common sense says it's being worked on by someone, somewhere, but I guess I'm just impatient to know for sure.
 
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the Sly Cooper thing. Apparently Grubb said that's happening - another weird one.
Yeah it is happening, I first heard about it nearly a year ago. Never played the series myself, but good for those who care.
It's not so much that they're bad ideas, just more that how many damn exclusives do they actually NEED? I always thought 2 or 3 a year was definitely too few, but more than 6 or so seems like overkill.
This is my fear as well - that having so many exclusives throughout the year (most of them at 70 dollars/80 euros) would make them cannibalize each other like it used to happen during the PS3 days...
 
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Yeah it is happening, I first heard about it nearly a year ago. Never played the series myself, but good for those who care.

This is my fear as well - that having so many exclusives throughout the year (most of them at 70 dollars/80 euros) would make them cannibalize each other like it used to happen during the PS3 days...

Any idea who's doing the Sly Cooper game?

Perhaps the way to look at it is that they just want to tap more markets directly, multiplayer, kids' games etc.
 
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Any idea who's doing the Sly Cooper game?
No clue since it seems to be super early...
Perhaps the way to look at it is that they just want to tap more markets directly, multiplayer, kids' games etc.
Yeah, that might be the case. Hopefully it works out for them now that there's much more goodwill and prestige attached to their first-party games than during the PS3 era.
 

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Well, they will partake in the consolidation process, whether they want to or not. I expect them to get Arrowhead in the near future, plus, maybe, Lucidgames. In fact, I expect them to get more many more European studios - to bolster their presence over there - and a couple of Asian ones. In addition they need to acquire small VR teams, and a mobile gaming publisher as well...
They should've gotten RaD
 
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Has the second team ever actually been confirmed? I just tend to take it as read, but I'm not sure it's ever been acknowledged anywhere.

Regarding Killzone specifically, I meant that they won't go back to it as their big single player vehicle, as a break from Horizon or whatever. For me they've moved on to something bigger and better and that's that.

Regarding the MP game, I think the latest rumour is actually another Horizon game, but who knows, really.
We know they have a 2nd team working on a AAA game. The Rainbow 6 Siege guy who also worked on Killzone 2 is directing that game since 2018 according to his linkedIn:


We know they asked via job offers they are implementing social elements, mentioning a guild-like concept for multiple players to explore together. But this could be an Horizon 2 (maybe post-launch?) feature.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com...uld-be-working-on-a-horizon-multiplayer-game/

This, combined to the experience of the director and high profile game designer that I think also worked on R6 Siege made people think it can be a coop Killzone, or a Socom, or a new IP.

Hired 4 months ago


Seems like a pretty big deal for Sony's mobile endeavours
Why? In which games did he work?

Any idea who's doing the Sly Cooper game?
We have zero facts, credible sources or solid clues that could lead us to think it exists.

Think you might have misread my post? I was guessing 2023 releases.... not sure what a Horizon 2 gameplay showing has to do with that...
Yes, I misread it. I originally though you were talking about stuff you thought they were going to reveal in a possible PlayStation Experience. I edited the post when I noticed I was wrong.

Also, I just can't see Infamous getting a new game. It's not a strong IP and Sucker Punch have just had their first major with Ghost. They're going to be on that for the entire generation, more than likely.
I agree. The GoT sequel is pretty much confirmed, and if they want to make another project before it I think they'll do a new IP instead of going back to Infamous. With GoT they reached another status and I doubt they'd want to go back.
 
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We have zero facts, credible sources or solid clues that could lead us to think [Sly 5] exists.
Speak only for yourself about that. I have heard about the project's existence several times over the course of the last year.
 

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They should've gotten RaD

There was a rumor floating around about FB selling Oculus to Sony including the studios..... Sanzaru (Last Sly game), RAD (Order) and Beat games.
People were saying FB didn't have a direction for VR and the figure being thrown around was 4.6 Billion.

Sounded like baloney but who knows.... way too much for Oculus IMO. Would prefer money like that to go towards a Square acquisition or something akin to that. Maybe buy back Crash and Spyro.... or secure MGS or Castlevania in the medium term for games....

Something like buying MiHoYo would be a great mobile / console move too..... and a better use of cash.

Also...

 
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There was a rumor floating around about FB selling Oculus to Sony including the studios..... Sanzaru (Last Sly game), RAD (Order) and Beat games.
People were saying FB didn't have a direction for VR and the figure being thrown around was 4.6 Billion.
Personally that's the dumbest rumour possible for oculus (I am probably going to be proven wrong lol)


Facebook employee count in the vr/metaverse space is just too large.
 
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There was a rumor floating around about FB selling Oculus to Sony including the studios..... Sanzaru (Last Sly game), RAD (Order) and Beat games.
People were saying FB didn't have a direction for VR and the figure being thrown around was 4.6 Billion.

Sounded like baloney but who knows.... way too much for Oculus IMO. Would prefer money like that to go towards a Square acquisition or something akin to that. Maybe buy back Crash and Spyro.... or secure MGS or Castlevania in the medium term for games....

Something like buying MiHoYo would be a great mobile / console move too..... and a better use of cash.

Also...


Square Enix wont happen, I think people need to let these kind of fantasies go. Sony will just do time limited exclusives, it works for them.

I think Sony will be eyeing the following, depending on how their games perform in terms of sales and critics:

Deviation
Illfonic
Arrowhead
Camouflaj
Ember Labs
Lucid

Maybe Remedy and ArcSys down the line, but not as likely.
 
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I've changed all tweets into images in the OP as they take up precious "Media" space.
Will plan to have trailers as the only form of "Media" to get around the limitation.