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PlayStation Says It Was a MLB's Decision to Put MLB The Show 21 on Xbox GamePass at Launch
Team Andromeda
Member
All this fuss over a bloody baseball game that most of the world couldn't careless about
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Easy. Sony needs MLB more than MLB needs Sony.
Wizz-Art
Member
If Sony was in bed with the MLB first, they paid money to dress her up nicely, take her out to dinner and stuff. Allround treat her with respect. Along comes Xbox, buries her with gifts and all nice things at first so she falls in love with them. When that happens they go on to put her on Game Pass for all to enjoy for a price – show them their love and feels a bit of guild for all those gifts and this is a way to repay them. Well, doesn't that make Xbox the loverboy and not the bull, MLB the victim and Sony nothing more than an cuckold?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I am quite speechless, this is a quite disgusting way to put it. Congrats on equating respect with weakness/bad traits and exploitation (guilt based) as a plus. Joke post?
prinz_valium
Member
Yes, that's the general rule of thumb when it comes to sport licenses games. So if someone think Sony got a different special deal, they're welcome to give a reason why or source.
And that those games work that way is posted in company filings and talked about in conference calls
Wizz-Art
Member
People were making the analogy of cuckold and it made me think about it that it really doesn't tell the whole story.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
Ah, so it was part of a new contract renewal? That mes sense. I just figured the terms of the contract would have leaked. Of course, I’m sure Sony got paid a bundle for Gamepass.
prinz_valium
Member
Yes, just like EA is developing FIFA for "free"
Or like 2K is developing NBA2K "for free"
Or Sony developed Spider-Man "for free"
They get paid in form of the profits they get from selling the games as the publisher.
The license holder is not paying the developer or the development costs.
Because it doesn't make sense for them. Their business plan was to sell the game and they know how much they can sell. For xbox it made sense since the franchise was never on xbox, there is no fanbase, the initial preorders were likely abysmal. People are making a big fuss of it because of wars but MLB The Show got very little attention.
So MS make a deal to offer it on GP then at least that way rake in microtransactions money on stubs and packs and good PR. They would be giving up little to no sales anyway.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Why would they? Just reskin it like FIFA and add "surprise" mechanics and spend less than $1M/year developing the sequel. You have the ultimate power over MLB to use the least effort and maximize profit. Wanna break the deal and get back the license of 5-10 years? Pay Sony a penalty fee in billions of dollar in cold cash.
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Hugare
Member
People loosing their minds and making threads about Jim Ryan for a game that sold what, 1 million copies when it was a PS exclusive?
It's not like God of War became multiplatform or something.
It's a baseball game. That sells just ok. No one at Sony will loose sleep because of it.
Some of you should log out and go out more often
It's not like God of War became multiplatform or something.
It's a baseball game. That sells just ok. No one at Sony will loose sleep because of it.
Some of you should log out and go out more often
FatKingBallman
Banned
There is. Sony will get a cut for every copies sold, MTX, and of course, from GamePass deal. They made a game, why they wouldn't be paid for it from an every form of a deal
FatKingBallman
Banned
Show was the always one of the best selling games in US. Always high on the charts. Surely above 1 million. You can check previous NPD data
saintjules
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That’s what happens when you Don’t Publish your Own Multiplatform Games , you get Played like a Bitch.
Microsoft doesn’t shy from publishing their multiplatform games like Minecraft games & Psychonauts 2 on other consoles like Ps4 & Switch, not only to they get paid big but also Control the publishing process and agreements so this shit doesn’t happend
SIE should’ve been the publisher for MLB on Xbox & future multiplatform versions of MLB imo, really big fuck up on Jim’s part that costed this PR nightmare IMO
Their only resort now is to put the PS4/5 version on PS+ Collection ASAP (since SIE is still the Publisher of MLB 21 on Their console)
Microsoft doesn’t shy from publishing their multiplatform games like Minecraft games & Psychonauts 2 on other consoles like Ps4 & Switch, not only to they get paid big but also Control the publishing process and agreements so this shit doesn’t happend
SIE should’ve been the publisher for MLB on Xbox & future multiplatform versions of MLB imo, really big fuck up on Jim’s part that costed this PR nightmare IMO
Their only resort now is to put the PS4/5 version on PS+ Collection ASAP (since SIE is still the Publisher of MLB 21 on Their console)
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If Sony made MLB into the Japan league or Korean league, it would probably do very well in Asian Markets. Wonder how much work that would be.
In our neck of the wood, we always had to buy MLB The Show Digitally, used to love it on my Vita. Great game to have, for grinding, on the go!
In our neck of the wood, we always had to buy MLB The Show Digitally, used to love it on my Vita. Great game to have, for grinding, on the go!
longdi
Banned
its a core game that xbox players get it 'free' as part of their GP while ps players pay $70. ouch, i will be pissed if so
time to get GP? seems like a great value that MS is willing to pour resources into.
everyone needs to do the 3 years hack asap, suspect this is still open while MS hasnt reached their internal numbers. don't lose a great deal friends!
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Man I feel that i am posting at legendary thread : D
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Fredrik
Member
I’m really not a sports fan and baseball is not something I’m all that familiar with, but since it’s there I’ll definitely give it a try. In that sense it’s already a success for both the dev and publisher. Might not end with millions of new sales but the talk is PR and Gamepass will put the game in the hands of gamers that would never pay to see if it’s good, some will probably buy it or get someone else to buy it.
Banjo64
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YeulEmeralda
Member
Baseball is popular in countries that belonged to US colonial empire or heavily influenced by the US.
In that sense it was always strange that it was a PlayStation exclusive.
I am one of the few people in my country who understands the rules of the baseball. But honestly my best childhood memories of the game is my dad giving me money to buy a hamburger.
Prison Mike
Banned
Game is trash like since 2011 (2010 was the last good one). Enjoy that shit on GamePass!
AdjudicatorHead
Member
I'm sick of people going on about this everywhere... it's really not that big a deal. Most of the world doesn't care about baseball, it's a niche title for Sony and they don't have control of the IP. If they published one of their IP-owned games where they have full control on Game Pass... that would be another story. It's not the end of the world, this is an overblown reaction.
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Fredrik
Member
That was more interesting than I thought it would be, great input from Jaffe, very emotional chats throughout the whole video, cool of Jaffe to just talk with regular gamers like that.
FrankWza
Member
When did this happen?
FrankWza
Member
I guess. You could also say after 15 years that shits been beaten into the ground and x is getting some really sloppy seconds after being unable to perform for 15 years without a viable MLB game. But...when Deathloop releases....
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Derktron
Banned
This right here, now everyone gives a fuck about some baseball game. When the game hardly sells over 1 million copies.
LisaMariaMartin
Banned
What then? The whole timed exclusive shenanigans are there to associate a franchise with a specific platform. Shrouding exclusivity in mystery by not specifying dates is also a common tactic from Sony.But...when Deathloop releases....
This time though, everyone knows they'll be able to play the game for "free" in a year. Not to mention any sequels might not even release on Playstation going forward.
Thanks for beta testing I guess. I'll enjoy it in a year. Plenty to play till then. Like MLB.
DaGwaphics
Member
While I'm sure this isn't the case here. There are developers that sell the entirety of the software to the publisher at an agreed upon price and never get a penny more. Some devs make it work like that, moving on to the next project and repeating. In that scenario it's up to the pub to recoup what they spent for the title and any additional profits are theirs to keep.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
oohhh you got me there! ill just shush and let you dream.
Duchess
Member
DaGwaphics
Member
WoW! This thread got golden overnight! Some real treasures here.
DaGwaphics
Member
All depends on where your from. It would be extremely unusual to find an American without some experience with baseball, either playing when school age or spectating.
Zeroing
Banned
Looks at Europe....
Nope here it is not. Baseball didn’t gain traction after the World War II ended, but that doesn’t mean people can’t be interested in a baseball game.
True, but you and I both know a lot of fanboys were capping for this game coming to GP and some of them won't even touch it.
onnextflix5
Member
That would be a good idea but They would loose money if they did, and thats not what jim ryan is about.
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In case I wasn't clear. I'm asking you to source your information.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
So I guess it is MLB who prevents from putting the game on PS+ or PS Now.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Have it come out on Switch every year than a Nintendo Switch release will tell you something about Sony and mlb.
Frito_Pendejo
Member
Game is trash like since 2011 (2010 was the last good one). Enjoy that shit on GamePass!
Don’t do this. It’s a great game and probably the best sports game on the market.
Fredrik
Member
If a million gamers are their previous target audience then it’ll be bad PR for them to release a downright bad port for 20 million people to try and rant about.
But Sony will likely apply Microsoft’s first or better strategy here. And since it’s not first on Playstation it’ll be better. I’m sure DF will show how big the gap is.
Agent X
Member
They might lose customers if they don't do it.
As long as that people see MLB The Show 21 is on Xbox Game Pass and not on either of Sony's subscription services, this could alter their perceptions and expectations of the services and the companies behind them.
They might, or they might not. No one would really know unless they tried.
If Sony did it, then it would at least be a gesture of good will for their customers, and would help counteract all of the negative press they've been getting over this issue. No one would be able to accuse them of being greedy or stingy. It would put this entire argument to bed.