I'm black. Fuck this pageantry of pandering. Hire based off of your skill set, accomplishments and credentials, not your race. This is racial discrimination taking precedent over being qualified to do the job. I hate this shit. If anything, just even the playing field for applicants when applying for a position and we're good.
But people get hired all the time because of the color of their skin. Were you complaining when those people were white? Did you sit down and think to yourself "that black guy over there is damn near overqualified, why'd they hire that white guy?" 20 bucks say you have never said that.
My point is that Phil is coming at the problem wrong altogether. It shouldn't be "I need to give more black people a chance". Black People don't want special treatment. We want equal treatment.
You nailed it. Equality doesn't start at the corporate level. It starts at the source. Educational programs that help black people to even get to the point where they can qualify for these kind of positions to begin with. What black folks need is the same early opportunities at the same quality that others enjoy. To be honest it's not just black people either. There are white poor neighborhoods too that have terrible schools. I work for a University that has an online program. So I get to speak to people from all over the country daily. It is very apparent that there are people of all races who want to go into computer-based careers, but haven't had the proper education to begin with to prepare them to even take the first steps.Yeah sure I bet that has happend 100% unfortunately there are people that are like that and it needs to change but if I thought people like Phil Spenser and big company's in the public eye really thought that way and genuinely wanted to help wouldn't they be best setting up aid/education and family advice programmes spending some of those millions in the poorest parts of black America or around the world right at the source of actual poverty actually making a difference instead of playing up to today's narrative it just feels fashionable for company's and spokespersons to say these things publicly and it feels fake.
I'd argue that it's not exclusive to the left or the right. It's what the country was founded on. It permeates media, government, education, criminal justice, societal norms, etc. The left and the right just have different way of deploying the idea in the first place.Most people do. It's sadly ironic that it was leftist racism and segregation ideology that finally forced me to realize that some of the people I grew up with, friends and colleagues had a different ethnicity.
Imagine if a Jew said "we don't need more Jews like me in our organization".
White guilt (conveniently not putting his own job at risk, of course) is so blasé in America these days.
Here at Finland there is one association that pushes the agenda of Africans into universities.
I know a person whom is professor in one of our universities, and his/hers boss have promised to be part of this, so soon they will have minimum of 50% of the class to be people brought from Africa, and non-africans that would have 100x more better papers to get in are not let in, before the quota is filled.
I've worked quite closely with a corporate Inclusion & Diversity team and there are no quotas whatsoever. It's all about removing barriers and building an inclusive place to work so you attract the best talent.Nope, it shouldn't matter, but it appears that you are staying what it should be like. In fact if you read what diversity consultants write about their work and how you approach hiring/ promotion under "diversity and inclusion" you would know that this is not at all about giving everybody a fighting chance, but about the specific representation quotas, at all levels of all organizations all the time (anyway, with the awards putting in place representation requirements any corporation that aspire to even be considered for one needs to meet these requirements).
My problem is with the word "need", saying that they would like more "American black culture" in their games, or something like that.
To be fair though, MSs output as a publisher is irrelevant, so trying something different can only help them improve.
On the other hand I definitely feel that if some manager was caught discriminating based on race in their hiring/promoting process, any business should fire them on the spot, this kind of attitude should not be tolerated at work--no matter what company policy and laws are... The problem at the moment is that the definition of the word racism itself is at play, which makes it pretty hard to have a fair discussion on the topic.
Industry don't need more black leaders in US. That will change shit.
Industry need more games made outside of US/Europe/Japan. Where are Indian/South American/African based games? They don't have stories to tell? Where are wuxia games? Or even games based on HK kung fu movies? There is no African myth worth telling in form of a game?
Almost everything we have is modern US (with it's wars)/future US/medieval Europe. Sometimes ancient Europe, maybe Egypt but nothing less known. Seriously that's all people can think about?
Am I only one who want's more diverse games? But culturally diverse not "let's have 50% of people in our black" diverse. That's not real diversity.
Time passes strangely these days, so it is easy to forget things that happened or were said or were pledged just five months ago.kotaku.com
During a recent interview with Xbox chief Phil Spencer, I asked him about this. His company, Microsoft, had made several pledges, including to do better by its Black employees, to recruit more Black workers to the tech giant, and to “double the number of Black and African American people managers, senior individual contributors, and senior leaders in the United States by 2025.”
That was in June, when everyone was talking about racial justice.
“One of the worries is you kind of get hyper-focused at a certain time, and the election comes along and months go by and you almost just kind of shift,” Spencer told me. “The conversation turns to something else. And I do think it’s something that we should come back to.”
We came back to it when we were speaking last month, during a conversation that was set up ostensibly to talk about the next generation of Xboxes, which we talked about plenty. We put the Xbox hardware talk on pause, though, when I asked how Microsoft was following through on its pledges. At one point in the exchange Spencer and I talked about Black people’s prominence—or lack thereof—in game studios and in leadership.
“The area where I think we really need to focus more as an industry, including my own team, are, as you said, those visible leaders,” Spencer said. “Because there was a generation where this didn’t happen.”
For years, Spencer was noting, Black people have not been given many chances to lead in gaming. Other people—the implication being “white people”—have ascended in the ranks at Western game companies.
“And as those people move up inside of the organization, you get a lot of people like me,” Spencer said, acknowledging that he’s yet another white guy in power. “And we don’t need more people like me in our organization. We need a more diverse team. So I’d say, for our focus right now, I think about manager representation.”
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Why does everything have to revolve around skin color?
Should they pay for scholarships for black people and not for white people?
I mean, opportunities should be given regardless of gender or color. Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
That's a big accusation made on a lot of people right there, and it's impossible to falsify... pretty much something nobody can act upon, one way or the other.If companies hired whoever was best for the job, every job, people would NOT need to have this conversation now. Fact is no industry has been untouched by race playing a factor in hiring.