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[March Climber]

It's curious Overwatch 2 doesn't have it's own tab in the Battle net client, and there is still no preorder for it. They'll put up WoW expansions for preorder over a year in advance. There must be something with the pricing they don't want out yet. I bet they want a full $60 for OW2(PVE) which would be laughable.

The OW2 PVP Beta Client just says Overwatch in the title bar.

This game has a big hill to climb for sure. Overwatch, over time, tricked me into thinking I didn't like non-BR competitive multiplayer anymore. However, after playing games like Splitgate, Halo, Call of Duty(non-BR), and even Overwatch's arcade mode itself, it's not that I didn't like competitive multiplayer anymore, it's that the way Blizzard structures it's competitive mode is too exhausting. In the games I've mentioned, any of their modes on the playlist are get in, get out, 5 to 10 minute matches at most. You're done, but you feel good enough after that short amount of time that you move on to the next playlist, map or game.

In Overwatch you're pushing an objective for upwards of 10-20 minutes, plus overtime, then playing against the same people again on defense while they push that can also lead to another 10-20 minutes, plus overtime. You've essentially put 20 to 40 minutes into one match, and if you lose after putting that much time in, it's one of the most frustrating feelings ever. Overwatch 1 Comp gave me nearly the same terrible time I had when playing League of Legends. That's not good. Their arcade modes play like what I actually want their competitive modes to play like. TDM, DM, and CTF Blitz(not regular CTF) all have 10 minute match times and rarely do you get into overtime on each.

I'm hoping with 5v5 now, slightly less time, and less focus on tanks, we end up with better and faster matches overall.

 

[SJRB]

Congrats, I guess?

Weird flex.

 

[The_hunter]

Blizzard is a wreck of it's past-self and so is Overwatch.

OW2 is NOT even a DLC, it's free updates (4 maps, 1 mode & 1 hero) that should've released years before with a PVE expansion disguised as a paid full prive sequel.

I'm pretty sure project Titan was developed by 80 to 100s of people, while OW2 was developed by 30-40 people max, and it's not gonna save the game, the balance and matchmaking are already completely fucked, they ruined all the subtle chemistry of the TvT gameplay and ruined some characters like Bastion or Sombra.

I'm sure overwatch 2 is going to have more than 1 new hero. They will probably trickle new content until release.

 

[wipeout364]

In the future developers will likely look back at this as a textbook case of how not to do a sequel.

Poor messaging, add features nobody wants (does anybody really care about PVE), and then cater to the elite players only. Constant nerfing and destruction of tank and support classes was why I quit.

 

[Talonz]

This game has a big hill to climb for sure. Overwatch, over time, tricked me into thinking I didn't like non-BR competitive multiplayer anymore. However, after playing games like Splitgate, Halo, Call of Duty(non-BR), and even Overwatch's arcade mode itself, it's not that I didn't like competitive multiplayer anymore, it's that the way Blizzard structures it's competitive mode is too exhausting. In the games I've mentioned, any of their modes on the playlist are get in, get out, 5 to 10 minute matches at most. You're done, but you feel good enough after that short amount of time that you move on to the next playlist, map or game.

In Overwatch you're pushing an objective for upwards of 10-20 minutes, plus overtime, then playing against the same people again on defense while they push that can also lead to another 10-20 minutes, plus overtime. You've essentially put 20 to 40 minutes into one match, and if you lose after putting that much time in, it's one of the most frustrating feelings ever. Overwatch 1 Comp gave me nearly the same terrible time I had when playing League of Legends. That's not good. Their arcade modes play like what I actually want their competitive modes to play like. TDM, DM, and CTF Blitz(not regular CTF) all have 10 minute match times and rarely do you get into overtime on each.

I'm hoping with 5v5 now, slightly less time, and less focus on tanks, we end up with better and faster matches overall.

In OW2, 2CP will be gone, and that is the play mode that took the most time. It was also the one the majority of the playerbase hated the most. Comp will be better just by the virtue of that mode being gone. It remains to be seen if "Push" is equally as frustrating or not. I doubt it will be since the mode won't be about choke points from what I've played. 2CP relied on frustratingly painful chokepoints to slam your head into for 20 minutes, and those matches had a semi-decent chance of ending in a draw as well.

I hate being stuck together with a team for a long time because if you get pissy players, it's agonizing. Overwatch had a ton of them in Comp. It's why I just play QP. Overwatch really is on the low end of things when it comes to time for their competitive mode. CS and Valorant have even longer matches, and it's something I won't even bother trying getting into due to it.

 

[Complistic]

I hate this "You'll get beta access if you watch twitch streamers so we can boast how good our twitch numbers are!" has become the norm.

I mean, it's a legitimate marketing tactic?

 

[March Climber]

In OW2, 2CP will be gone, and that is the play mode that took the most time. It was also the one the majority of the playerbase hated the most. Comp will be better just by the virtue of that mode being gone. It remains to be seen if "Push" is equally as frustrating or not. I doubt it will be since the mode won't be about choke points from what I've played. 2CP relied on frustratingly painful chokepoints to slam your head into for 20 minutes, and those matches had a semi-decent chance of ending in a draw as well.

I hate being stuck together with a team for a long time because if you get pissy players, it's agonizing. Overwatch had a ton of them in Comp. It's why I just play QP. Overwatch really is on the low end of things when it comes to time for their competitive mode. CS and Valorant have even longer matches, and it's something I won't even bother trying getting into due to it.

I agree with your overall point, but I'd argue that it wasn't just 2CP. I've had plenty of Escort/Cart matches that at worst lasted nearly 40 to 60 minutes overtime, due to a combination of too many tanks, too many healers, dual lucios, DPS not doing a good enough job on both sides, and other factors(like people getting in personal grudge matches instead of doing objective). Matches would even at least last 20 to 30 minutes in Overwatch League when watching them do cart. It is a problem.

From what I've seen of Push, it seems like the better mode but still has problems. There should be 2 robots instead of one because once one team gets more distance it becomes twice as hard for the other and it doesn't swing nearly as much as it should. Also 2CP could easily be turned into Crazy King(basically King of the Hill but it moves to a different spot every 60 seconds).

 

[Stuart360]

DrDisrespect was less than impressed with the game, for what thats worth.

 

[Doom85]

Congrats, I guess?

Weird flex.

Considering all the clickbait-loving Youtubers who would love to claim “Overwatch is dead!” over the last four years while actual numbers suggested anything but, I’d say it’s more like a long over due reality check for those who don’t bother checking actual details.

It’s like the people who cried “Nintendo is dead!” when the Wii U bombed, and then the Switch sales numbers bitch slapped them in the face.

 

[HTK]

I hate this "You'll get beta access if you watch twitch streamers so we can boast how good our twitch numbers are!" has become the norm.

Sure, however them boasting about numbers makes 0 impact on people with a functioning brain.

I'm really curious about OW2, I enjoyed the first one quite a bit. Just wished I had more of my friends actually enjoy the game as much as I did.

 

[Uiki]

It's back at 40k viewers.

Let it die already.

 

[Zeroing]

It is essentially the same game with little tweaks and new characters!

If someone said to me it was DLC I would had believe it!

 

[Urban]

It's back at 40k viewers.

Let it die already.

Most of the viewers were bots who farm those keys and than sell it ^^

 

[FUBARx89]

After how they massacred Overwatch to cater to the esports crowd, no thanks.

I went to play it on PS other day just to see if they've improved it and had to make a blizzard account, turned it straight off.

 

[Bridges]

OW was at its best when there weren't restrictions on team composition. I understand that balance changes have to occur, but I can't think of a worse example of a game that got progressively worse with each update.

Reducing the amount of players per team is a terrible idea also. I really loved this game when it came out but it is not the same.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Where is D. Va?

 

[killatopak]

Based on my limited time watching this. I struggle to think why they need to make this a sequel and not just an update to the existing game.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

There is definitly interest, but considering how essentially the biggest changes are a new character named Soldier spelt by a dyslexic and one less player per team....

Yeaaaaaah OK, wonder if Microsoft will force them to rethink once the buyouts done and dusted and just release it as an update instead.

Show any overwatch 2 gameplay on an old map and ask a player to spot the diffrence, they will really struggle.

You ain't lying, man. At a glance it looks like a new season for the original game, visually. I know it's an eSports title and they need it to run on a potato, but I was expecting at least a new revamp of the art style.

This is more like if SFV were like SF 4.5, in terms of artstyle & visual upgrade. More of an iteration instead of an easily distinguishable new visual look that's still respectable to the original style.

 

[Uiki]

3 days later....

 

[Talonz]

If you combine Overwatch 1(18.3k viewers) and Overwatch 2(7.1k viewers) which puts total viewers at 25.4. Overwatch as a whole is outside the top 20 categories on Twitch. That's a pretty bad showing. The beta isn't even a week old yet. It's barely ahead of Dead by Daylight which is an extremely old game.

 

[AX8]

Loving all the salt this game is generating lmao, it's mostly from bozos who thought Overwatch was dead to begin with, gotta love it, 2 is so good, can't wait for the full release, Blizzard has my money already along with Diablo 4.

 

[Craig of War]

If you combine Overwatch 1(18.3k viewers) and Overwatch 2(7.1k viewers) which puts total viewers at 25.4. Overwatch as a whole is outside the top 20 categories on Twitch. That's a pretty bad showing. The beta isn't even a week old yet. It's barely ahead of Dead by Daylight which is an extremely old game.

Damn how is Halo still so high on there i thought Halo Infinite was a dead game lol

 

[Uiki]

Damn how is Halo still so high on there i thought Halo Infinite was a dead game lol

Still dead. It's back at 1.5k-ish total viewers.
The spike was HCS Kansas City.