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Official E3 awards: MS scoops best presentation and Forza Horizon 5 listed as most anticipated game overall

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Good for them, but they literally had no opposition whatsoever.

Forza looked incredible yeah.
 
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About time these Horizon games get the attention they deserve. Horizon 3 was the best game of 2016 and I won't let anyone tell me otherwise. Totally shafted because it was a racing game.
 
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I don't want to sound like an MS hater or anything and I really like the Forza Horizon series, but it's not very good when a suuuper safe sequel of a long running series becomes the 'best' E3 game.
Why is it "not very good"? All of the other potential picks would essentially be sequels or entries in longer-running series: Halo Infinite, BoTW 2, Metroid Dread, Elden Ring (I mean it's spiritually a Souls game and that's an IP that's been around since '09), etc.

A very tasteless caveat to put there all things considered, like do you think there would be realistic chance for one of the super-indie games to take Best of Show? Or something like a literal reboot/remake in Advanced Wars or the absolutely shit-tier reveal for one of Square Enix's games? How about the literal nothingburger stuff from Capcom's show where a single new game wasn't even revealed?

If you're being honest in this assessment/opinion and not just trying to be contrarian for "reasons", there's very few games that would meet your criteria, and actually have a chance of winning, especially if you want to throw the caveat of "was there gameplay shown?" into the pot. STALKER 2, for example, is one of those few (personally it was between FH5 and STALKER 2 for me, anyway. But Halo Infinite and BoTW 2 are close seconds).

I demand a drugs test from anyone who thought there was a better presentation than MS/Bethesda this year. You'd have to be taking crack to think otherwise.

The only other presentation I really liked was not even for what it showed. I liked the absolute chaos trolling by Square Enix. The bait and switch of the FF I-VI part was my moment of E3.

As trashy as Square-Enix's show was, they at least revealed new games. IMO Capcom's was genuinely the worst; simply DLC and a damn eSports update (and I actually watch the SFV tournaments)

MS definitely had the strongest showing, that's for sure.

Yeah, this really shouldn't be up for debate. Gamers keep asking for new IP, and MS's show had more new IP shown than the other ones combined. They keep asking for visually impressive gameplay for games coming soon; MS's showcase arguably delivered that more than any other presentation.

Those are generally the two biggest complaints we keep seeing from gamers, especially towards Microsoft, and they delivered on those more than the other E3 presenters and even those from Geoff's show, more or less. But suddenly people want to say a show that mostly had sequels and reboots was better (Nintendo; and hey I am actually looking forward to some of those games too namely BotW 2, Metroid, Super Monkey Ball, SMT5)? Or try saying editors with their own opinions should've picked a game literally not at E3 as most anticipated?

It's kind of like the people saying Square-Enix had the worst show; yes some of their decisions are very dumb like the FF collection, but at least they showed off new games, including a few new IP, and not all of them had disastrous presentations like that game "insiders" kept saying was a PS5 exclusive only to turn out it's multiplat in actuality (just one of many things insiders got wrong with their rumors, as always). For the actual content shown I'd put Square-Enix's show somewhere in a third bracket following Nintendo's, who would follow Microsoft's.

The worst IMO was really Capcom's; outside of an update for Monster Hunter and a repackaging of older Ace Attorney games they really didn't have anything. An announcement for DLC to RE Village everyone could've assumed was already in some stage of development, and kind of a nothingburger of an eSports announcement/schedule update. They didn't need a press conference stream for what they had, considering no new games were revealed.
 
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Why is it "not very good"? All of the other potential picks would essentially be sequels or entries in longer-running series: Halo Infinite, BoTW 2, Metroid Dread, Elden Ring (I mean it's spiritually a Souls game and that's an IP that's been around since '09), etc.
Uhhh, Starfield? All the hype around that game for YEARS with knowing next to nothing...
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Elden Ring, BOTW 2, Battlefield, yeah no competition at all 🤣 It just looks incredible, simple as that.
You can play elden ring and battlefield on a xbox so what is your point? The race is laways between the big 3 because everything that ubisoft or square show run on every console (except switch).

And the trailer for botw2 was underwhelming to say the least if even nintendo boys in here were not happy with it, then you add shitshows like the take2 or bandai namco events...

So yeah, not much from the opponents.

Like i said forza looked incredible, but that is not that word that i would use to describe the entire event overall, probably because i don't give a damn about forza and i wanted to see the other big games like fable, avowed or the halo campaing.
Cg for starfield and the other games does jack shit for my interest, exactly like nintedo showing a logo of metroid prime or sony doing the same with ragnarock, i only care for real gameplay, i shitted on sony when they presented horizon 2 with that in engine crap trailer and that one was the sequel of my gotg, just to be perfectly clear.

For you it was incredible,for me it was a good 6\barely a 7.
 
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I don't want to sound like an MS hater or anything and I really like the Forza Horizon series, but it's not very good when a suuuper safe sequel of a long running series becomes the 'best' E3 game.
As if Awards still matter of anything, we're talking about same thing that consider TLOU2 to be the best game of all time, so.
 

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The notion of E3 awards with so many notable absences is funny to me.

Anyway, I'm surprised Forza is considered more anticipated than Halo. Nothing against Forza, which looked gorgeous. Just figured Halo would be most anticipated out of the entire lot.
 
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But it has. They're just changing the setting and the gameplay stays roughly the same.

They're actually adding a lot of things to the gameplay loop or did you choose to not pay attention to them when they mentioned some of this?

And fyi, this comes from a person who's spent over 100 hours with FH1-3.

...and? I've spend 1000s of hours playing games during my life, I can make a reductionist argument all games boil down to the same thing if I felt like it but that's a bad argument, kind of like the one you're making.

Each. I was already getting bored late in the game in FH3 and I've spent a lot less time with FH4 because the game didn't surprise me with anything new (changing seasons was more like a gimmick) and also doubled down on the 'it's okay not to win, here's a reward anyway' theme.

So it's not a game worthy of winning Most Anticipated because they're giving an option for less-skilled players to enjoy the game, in a way that won't interfere with seasoned players winning off of their skills? And while you might have a cynical anecdotal POV, you can understand there are many more (evidently clearly many more) folks who've put tons of hours into it and are still highly anticipated, right?

Last I checked a game garnering such investment from players is generally pretty high-quality, it makes perfect community and business sense to iterate on that IP for developers and publishers.

I would, because I don't give a crap about Mario & Zelda. ;)

What I meant in general is that instead of some cool NEW or returning IP a sequel without any big innovations got the award because of cool graphics and appealing to a lot of people.

It's almost as if the two biggest things people on these forums have been talking about in terms of what makes most impacting "next gen" impressions (next-gen looking graphics, games with mainstream appeal) turned out to be true even in terms of determining the most anticipated release.

Just curious, what game would you honestly have chosen if you ran the process and could determine the winner? And why exactly would you pick that game? I want to hear if people who'd like a different game can rationalize that choice, if they're able to so poignantly specify why they don't think a certain other game should be.
 
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I'm so confused. :messenger_dizzy:

Overall Most Anticipated: Forza Horizon 5, Xbox Game Studios
Most Anticipated: Xbox/Bethesda: Halo: Infinite

How ?



Anyway my most ancicipated:




Actually quite looking forward to this one but the trailer doesn't tell too much new about the game in terms of the gameplay or such. The concept art they showed afterwards actually does more of that than the trailer did xD.

Still tho, feeling really good about the game now. Tons of great stuff coming 2022 now: Starfield, GoW Raganrok, GT7, STALKER 2, Plague's Tale: Requiem, Redfall, BoTW2, SMT5, and a ton of other games I'm probably forgetting RN.
 
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Uhhh, Starfield? All the hype around that game for YEARS with knowing next to nothing...
Cmon Son GIF
Starfield would, for sure. Seems very ambitious, it's a new IP and will have new game design elements. But, I don't think the trailer told too much about the game still tbh.

The concept art they showed on Twitter did more on that front IMO, also confirming there are in fact aliens (again, something the trailer didn't necessarily hint at; very impressive trailer tho).

EDIT: Yeah I know I'm lazy, just raw posted trizzle times instead of editing. Trying something different this week.
 
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Starfield would, for sure. Seems very ambitious, it's a new IP and will have new game design elements. But, I don't think the trailer told too much about the game still tbh.

The concept art they showed on Twitter did more on that front IMO, also confirming there are in fact aliens (again, something the trailer didn't necessarily hint at; very impressive trailer tho).

EDIT: Yeah I know I'm lazy, just raw posted trizzle times instead of editing. Trying something different this week.
Trailer is what got me hyped, where prior I wasn't. All I thought was Fallout/ES in space with all their less than desirable (to me) art design and jank on the characters, but if the trailer is indicative of the art direction and they are going to expand upon the systems with some cool shit, even similar to Star Citizen in some ways I bet, I'm listening.
 

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How can Take-Two don't won for the best presentation?
Somewhere, in an alternate universe, Take Two was using that as more fodder of a gold mine to harvest more jokes and tropes for GTA6.

Oh wait, that would only be a decade ago.
 
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I think if Breath of the Wild 2 had shown a full trailer and release date instead of another teaser it would have easily won. I'm also surprised Metroid Dread did not take it given that games near mythical status. Kudos to Forza which looks incredible.
 
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I don't want to sound like an MS hater or anything and I really like the Forza Horizon series, but it's not very good when a suuuper safe sequel of a long running series becomes the 'best' E3 game.
Phew. First reply and someone said it first. Though I was alone in thinking that.
 

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Some people really playing down Forza Horizon as 'just a car game' here, it really is trying to play down the games success.

I pretty much hate most driving games. Most are boring and repetitive. The last driving game I enjoyed before FH4 (the first entry I played) was Burnout 3.

Forza Horizon is much more than a 'drive from here to here game' . There's so much more to do that it really is a disservice labelling it negatively as 'just a driving game'.
 
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Phew. First reply and someone said it first. Though I was alone in thinking that.
You're practically alone; two pods in a sea of millions swimming against the mainstream current ;)

Trailer is what got me hyped, where prior I wasn't. All I thought was Fallout/ES in space with all their less than desirable (to me) art design and jank on the characters, but if the trailer is indicative of the art direction and they are going to expand upon the systems with some cool shit, even similar to Star Citizen in some ways I bet, I'm listening.

I hear 'ya. The trailer did do a great job showing it's not "just" Fallout/ES with a space skin. It's a genuine effort at a new IP with its own world design, lore, atmosphere etc. and that is worth looking forward to.

Just hope it's not into late 2022 when we can get some gameplay previews for it.

How can Take-Two don't won for the best presentation?

Just watching the T2 event and...wow....I really don't have any words. Have to apologize to Capcom, their event is lightyears ahead of T2's trash.

What were they even thinking with that press conference? I don't have a problem with those initiatives but that is backstage shit, you DO NOT make that your centerpiece for a gaming conference for the gaming public! No one wants to hear about that stuff at E3, even if they support the cause (and even the cause in some aspects can be questioned for legitimacy).

Take Two's show is a blatantly clear attempt to shove politics down people's throats and force an agenda on people. If the cause is of genuine merit and something people agree with, it should naturally draw support and not be obtrusively pushed in people's faces at inconvenient times.
 
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Some people really playing down Forza Horizon as 'just a car game' here, it really is trying to play down the games success.

I pretty much hate most driving games. Most are boring and repetitive. The last driving game I enjoyed before FH4 (the first entry I played) was Burnout 3.

Forza Horizon is much more than a 'drive from here to here game' . There's so much more to do that it really is a disservice labelling it negatively as 'just a driving game'.
Yeah John form DF said FH4 was one of the best games of last gen. It maybe a rcaing game, but its open world, jammed full of content, and somehting that isnt always the case with open world games, the game is damn fun to play.
There is a reason why Horizon sells more than Motorsport.