McCheese
Member
This, they are leap-frogging everyone else by treating VR as the defacto social device of the future which is absolutely where VR will end up shining, VRChat is nothing compared to what's to come.
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This, they are leap-frogging everyone else by treating VR as the defacto social device of the future which is absolutely where VR will end up shining, VRChat is nothing compared to what's to come.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I vaguely remember some conversation about Viveport on here. Does anyone have experience using it with Quest 2? Seems like a good way to rip through a bunch of content and see what you like.
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Decided to just give the 14-day trial a go, and I must say this is pretty fucking cool. Especially as a Game Pass lover. I installed Fruit Ninja and Gun Club and ran them through Virtual Desktop just fine. Both amazing games. Gun Club with headphones on is a great experience.
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Decided to just give the 14-day trial a go, and I must say this is pretty fucking cool. Especially as a Game Pass lover. I installed Fruit Ninja and Gun Club and ran them through Virtual Desktop just fine. Both amazing games. Gun Club with headphones on is a great experience.
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cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
So tried out airlink on Quest1. It worked great. There is an app that you have to side load on Quest1 called airlinkconnector.
CloudNull
Banned
Facebook Headsets Now Make Up 60% Of SteamVR Use
3 in 5 SteamVR gamers in April used Oculus headsets, according to Valve’s monthly hardware survey data. Companies like Facebook, Valve, & HTC don’t reveal sales figures. The Steam Hardware Survey remains the most reliable indicator of PC VR’s adoption. The survey is offered to a...
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Facebook is slowly becoming a monopoly of VR. I really hope the HTC headset is a good competitor with outside tracking and a decent price point. I don't want Facebook getting complacent with their market share.
Julius Ibidus
Member
am enjoying watching the feed above, thanks!
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Finally got around to trying AirLink.
I really like it. It's less configurable than VD and there might be use cases where you might prefer A stripped down VD configuration to minimize true latency, but the perceptual latency in VD is better and I chalk that up to ASW combined with the tracking model.
ASW also makes a lot of higher end games that have trouble with consistent frame rate a lot more playable. It's night and day for Stormland, for example.
I really like it. It's less configurable than VD and there might be use cases where you might prefer A stripped down VD configuration to minimize true latency, but the perceptual latency in VD is better and I chalk that up to ASW combined with the tracking model.
ASW also makes a lot of higher end games that have trouble with consistent frame rate a lot more playable. It's night and day for Stormland, for example.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
While I don't think wired VR is done, I do think wireless is much more of a killer feature/differentiator than anything in the Index like finger tracking or wide FOV. I've introduced a lot of people to VR and "I wish there wasn't a wire" comes up all the time. "I wish I had an extra 20 degrees of FOV" never does.
Come On Tars
Member
For sure. Wireless and comfort comes first and we still have a bit to go till we're ready player one status. I'd argue fov comes up when you own the thing and start nitpicking, not having a friend play on it. Stoked for new vive announcements.
namekuseijin
Banned
incoming downgrade for the switch, I mean, the Quest:
normal mapping lost, texture resolution and flat lighting.
but if you have a pc you're in luck. In some ways, this feels like an ad for the pcvr game out last year...
normal mapping lost, texture resolution and flat lighting.
but if you have a pc you're in luck. In some ways, this feels like an ad for the pcvr game out last year...
Kazza
Member
So, is the airlink good enough now that playing PC games wirelessly on the Quest 2 is a nice, unlaggy experience? I've just bought a laptop with an RTX3060, so I should just buy the PC version of a game whenever available and save the Oculus store for exclusives such as RE4 from now on, right?
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Yeah, totally. Airlink is a great experience, and lag is really only 5-7ms higher than wired link, most people will not be able to notice. Image quality is quite good as well, if you push the bitrate up to around 130 it looks just like wired.
A couple laptop specific caveats, though: You'll need a wired connection (ethernet) between your laptop and router while you play. You'll also want to make sure your laptop is plugged in and sufficiently cool, as laptops tend to be very prone to thermal and power throttling. Also AirLink is for playing in the same room as your router, so if your playspace is elsewhere it might not work as well.
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Kazza
Member
Thanks. It seems like I have a few hurdles to overcome first then:
- need a USB to ethernet adaptor (laptop is small and so doesn't have an ethernet port)
- the router is downstairs, but I usually play upstairs where there is more space. I guess I'll have to play downstairs, or maybe get some kind of second router or booster
- regarding the laptop heat issue, I have been thinking of getting one of those cooling pads, but it seems to me that the fans on the pad could just end up interfering with the natural airflow of the laptop. Maybe a regular stand would be just as good.
Tygeezy
Member
If only the switch could also play the big boy version also like the quest can.
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Julius Ibidus
Member
what bundle? is it on sale? got a link?
RPS37
Member
Shop VR Game Bundle: Star Wars Day Pack on Meta Quest
Get the best pack this side of the galaxy with every Star Wars experience on Oculus Quest. The 'Star Wars Day' pack includes Star Wars: Pinball VR, Star Wars: Tales From the Galaxy's Edge and Vader Immortal: Episode 1-3.* *This offer is valid on purchases at Oculus.com from 05/01/2021 12AM PT...
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Julius Ibidus
Member
wow, very cool, thanks!Shop VR Game Bundle: Star Wars Day Pack on Meta Quest
Get the best pack this side of the galaxy with every Star Wars experience on Oculus Quest. The 'Star Wars Day' pack includes Star Wars: Pinball VR, Star Wars: Tales From the Galaxy's Edge and Vader Immortal: Episode 1-3.* *This offer is valid on purchases at Oculus.com from 05/01/2021 12AM PT...
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Picked up another face cushion and bracket for $13.50 on open-box 'like new' deal. This model sells under a few brands, but this is the Hijiao 2020.
"Hijiao" on top, VR Cover on bottom
It's not nearly as comfortable as the VR Cover face cushion, especially on the cheek area that I was getting pain from the standard foam cushion. A good thing about the Hijiao face cushion is that it doesn't allow any light leakage around the nose at all without having to use the weird silicone nose cover.
Amazon.com: HIJIAO 2020 New Improvement VR Facial Interface Bracket & PU Leather Foam Face Cover Pad Replacement & Protective Lens Cover for Oculus Quest 2: Electronics
Amazon.com: HIJIAO 2020 New Improvement VR Facial Interface Bracket & PU Leather Foam Face Cover Pad Replacement & Protective Lens Cover for Oculus Quest 2: Electronics
www.amazon.com
"Hijiao" on top, VR Cover on bottom
It's not nearly as comfortable as the VR Cover face cushion, especially on the cheek area that I was getting pain from the standard foam cushion. A good thing about the Hijiao face cushion is that it doesn't allow any light leakage around the nose at all without having to use the weird silicone nose cover.
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Come On Tars
Member
Might cop something like this. I have a silicon cover that goes over the existing cusion. Its annoying and slips off. Need a whole replacement.Picked up another face cushion and bracket for $13.50 on open-box 'like new' deal. This model sells under a few brands, but this is the Hijiao 2020.
Amazon.com: HIJIAO 2020 New Improvement VR Facial Interface Bracket & PU Leather Foam Face Cover Pad Replacement & Protective Lens Cover for Oculus Quest 2: Electronics
Amazon.com: HIJIAO 2020 New Improvement VR Facial Interface Bracket & PU Leather Foam Face Cover Pad Replacement & Protective Lens Cover for Oculus Quest 2: Electronicswww.amazon.com
"Hijiao" on top, VR Cover on bottom
It's not nearly as comfortable as the VR Cover face cushion, especially on the cheek area that I was getting pain from the standard foam cushion. A good thing about the Hijiao face cushion is that it doesn't allow any light leakage around the nose at all without having to use the weird silicone nose cover.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I'd recommend the VR Cover model over the Hijiao. It's just wayyyy more comfortable. Hijiao seems to be a tight fit with more pressure focused on the forehead and nose. VR Cover comes with the plastic bracket and 2 cushions that use velcro to mount. I'm using the thicker one and it's great!
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Come On Tars
Member
Recently been trying out skyrim. Looking like I'm going to need to tinker a lot with it. And dear God it's blurry
Pippelipeikko
Member
I tried dirt 2.0 yesterday in VR for the first time, I lasted about 5 minutes before I had to throw up. 
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I use a separate router that isn’t connected to the internet for Airlink.
I have a Tp Link Ac1200 connected to my laptop by Ethernet, with 2.4ghz turned off, and the oculus connected to its wi fi signal.
This means I can have it all upstairs where I game, and I don’t have to move my main internet router. It’s pretty much flawless in terms of the link... much better than wired to be honest.
I have a cooling pad for my laptop, and it does keep temps lower during gaming.
Twinguistics
Member
I have a cooling pad for mine but I can't use it for vr gaming as all my usb ports are filled with sensors. I guess that wouldn't be an issue for the quest.
#coolstorybro
RPS37
Member
Is this person a genius? Possibly.
I say this because I’ve always thought I couldn’t do Airlink, since I have a 5ghz router that’s far from my gaming pc.
But what if I brought a new router to the pc? Maybe genius.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Lol. I saw it on Reddit, thought “that can’t be right” ...but sure enough, it works perfectly. no internet connection required.
Pick up a second hand 5ghz router on eBay and give it a go.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I was running Alyx fine at high fidelity on my ROG zephyrus with a 3070 in. No performance issues - but the laptop did feel pretty toasty, so figured the cooling pad couldn’t hurt. Certainly don’t think it’s actually required though.
Tygeezy
Member
If you have a cable coax outlet by you pc you can run a pair of moca adapters.
namekuseijin
Banned
snowflakes needing a toxicity filter:
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Smart! This makes sense, but probably wouldn't have occurred to me.
I had to run a long ethernet cable from my living room to my bedroom (it's an apartment so this is still only like 50 feet or something), but I kind of like playing out in the living room where there's more space so it works out.
Tygeezy
Member
I read that today as well. Of course they want huge overreach to protect their feelings instead of just muting, ignoring, or clapping back themselves at mean people and kids.
CloudNull
Banned
Not only must companies update and patch their game they must now have an oversight board that rates the players lol. They get to decide if players have good enough behavior to continue to play their game. Shit is delusional especially for small developers.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Cas did a video on Demeo:
Official overview trailer:
This game looks awesome! *edit* Oh shit, this just released today!
Official overview trailer:
This game looks awesome! *edit* Oh shit, this just released today!
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CloudNull
Banned
I was just reading reviews on this.
I think I might pick this up. I have never played dungeon and dragons but have always wanted to. I am a bit worried about not being able to save mid game but I am sure they will add it soon.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Saves would be nice since I think Cas said it took 2hrs for their first group run. The official trailer talks about competing to complete it quickly, so I'm sure once your group is familiar with it that time could be halved. Something to nag the developer for.
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CloudNull
Banned
It will apparently be crossplay with pc as well. Game could be huge if they support it correctly. Hopefully tons of campaigns.
Tygeezy
Member
It looks like they already have some future content planned:
Realm of the Rat King Will be a Summer 2021 Expansion for Demeo - GMW3
The turn-based dungeon crawler arrives tomorrow.
www.vrfocus.com
namekuseijin
Banned
Demeo is possibly good, but a RPG boardgame is not what I want from VR.
Moving a wizard figure on a board, throwing the dice, selecting a card? Why, when I can just be a wizard and gesture spells with my own hands?
I played the first The Wizards and quite enjoyed it. The studio is now busy working on another Warhammer game, FP too. I'm checking this eventually, not sure if Quest version...
Moving a wizard figure on a board, throwing the dice, selecting a card? Why, when I can just be a wizard and gesture spells with my own hands?
I played the first The Wizards and quite enjoyed it. The studio is now busy working on another Warhammer game, FP too. I'm checking this eventually, not sure if Quest version...
CloudNull
Banned
Just played my first run of Demeo as an archer with a bunch of Randoms. It is so much fun and I can see myself wasting tons of time in this game. I don't think I am a big fan of the archer class but there were some super fun cards. I think I will prefer mage or guardian.
Not completing a run is not very punishing and you still get exp so that is good. I am super hopeful for the future of the games.
Not completing a run is not very punishing and you still get exp so that is good. I am super hopeful for the future of the games.
CloudNull
Banned
Just did a run with a mage and made it to the boss but had to leave because something came up for work. Holy shit is the game fun and actually difficult. This game can literally consume you...... Well done.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I'm about to pull the trigger on Demeo. I wonder if it's better to go with the Steam version or the Quest 2? From what I've seen it's Cross-play, and if a game is full price I'd rather have it on the Quest 2.
Come On Tars
Member
Is steam version PCVR and quest 2 all in the headset? If so wouldn't it be a lot less good lookin? I'm still sorting this all out haha.
pr0cs
Member
There are two versions mobile (quest2) and PCVR.
Doesn't look like you can actually get the PCVR version on the oculus store which is pretty strange. Normally I'd say getting it on the oculus store is a good idea as you usually get both versions for the price of one, in this case you will have to decide how often you want to play the game sans pc.
Clearly the pc version will look and probably play better but, you'll obviously less flexible
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I'm a bit confused as well, but mostly just don't want to misunderstand. On the Steam page it says "Cross-platform Multiplayer" which is Cross-play, or across different systems, but the Oculus Store just says Multiplayer.
I think
Tygeezy
said the Oculus PC/Rift version comes out in a couple weeks and might support Cross-buy. That would be cool to have, too.
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