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NPD June: #1 Switch, #2 Xbox, #3 Playstation 5, Ratchet #1 in SW

kingfey

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Like i said, i know your previous account and i know your posts from it. So yes you do.
I dont know what you are talking about. I saw your forum from the job, since its the only thing that I can access from gaming chats. Resetera is blocked there, so I can't access it.

I joined here to have a discussion. If I am bothering you guys, I will stop coming to this site.
 
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Thirty7ven

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Being in the US all I care about are sales numbers here because when I play a MP online game I am in servers here.

If your country hasn't set foot on the Moon or uses the Metric system....

Who Cares Tommy Lee Jones GIF


;)

Just like Europeans really don’t care about Xbox, they want to play football with people who understand the meaning of the word for example.
 

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I dont know what you are talking about. I saw your forum from the job, since its the only thing that I can access from gaming chats. Resetera is blocked there, so I can't access it.

I joined here to have a discussion. If I am bothering you guys, I will stop coming to this site.
Dude no one says you should stop visiting the site. Its just that your constant whining about sony fanboys is annoying, when you are doing the same shit for the "other side"
 

kingfey

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Just like Europeans really don’t care about Xbox, they want to play football with people who understand the meaning of the word for example.
As a person who plays fifa 21 on xbox, sometimes it hurts not getting connected to a certain game mode. I am stuck waiting in the queue line.

Maybe there isn't any players that much active these days. I stopped playing ultimate team, and focused more on my player. Psg doesn't let me play that much though 😑. Always of the bench most of the time.
 

kingfey

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Dude no one says you should stop visiting the site. Its just that your constant whining about sony fanboys is annoying, when you are doing the same shit for the "other side"
If that one is bothering, I am sorry. Its just annoying seeing them pulling shit like that. I will do the same for the xbox guys, when they pull these shits.
 

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Damn, so Xbox players are just as interested in Scarlet Nexus as Playstation players.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. Some people are going to have to update their false arguments against Xbox with something new.
 
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Damn, so Xbox players are just as interested in Scarlet Nexus as Playstation players.

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. Some people are going to have to update their false arguments against Xbox with something new.
If a game is good, people will buy it. Especially on the platform they like. Scarlet had a high sales due to digital.

We bashed cyberpunk2077 alot, and guess what. It ranked in top 10 in psn sales. The game that was banned from the store, and had caution advice sold alot on Playstation.

If that isn't not enough evidence, that people will buy what they like, then I don't know what to say.
 

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Come to Germany, nobody wants an S here, it's always available and has been discounted by 20€ for a while.

It does make me wonder if they realise they made a mistake... It's available pretty much all through Europe.

No one seems to want a console half a foot in the past and half a foot in the future.

Even their own studios were worried about it. Be interesting to see what happens next.
 

kingfey

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It does make me wonder if they realise they made a mistake... It's available pretty much all through Europe.

No one seems to want a console half a foot in the past and half a foot in the future.

Even their own studios were worried about it. Be interesting to see what happens next.
That is false statement. Switch exist. Its much weaker device, yet it sells like crazy.

This device is aimed at people who wants to play games. Cheaper price point entry 300$, and 60fps 1080p. Its even stronger than my gaming pc. I cant do stable 60 at high end read dead 2. Yet, this device can do 60fps 1080p red dead easily.

The problem for it, is there is no next gen game for it. They need a game to sell the device. Until September, it will have issues selling it. Once halo, forza drops, expect people to buy them.

And here is the USA, you can only see scalped XSS. Its out of stock.

We had the xbox sad (one). And devs made games for it. They will continue to make games for this guy.
 

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That is false statement. Switch exist. Its much weaker device, yet it sells like crazy.

This device is aimed at people who wants to play games. Cheaper price point entry 300$, and 60fps 1080p. Its even stronger than my gaming pc. I cant do stable 60 at high end read dead 2. Yet, this device can do 60fps 1080p red dead easily.

The problem for it, is there is no next gen game for it. They need a game to sell the device. Until September, it will have issues selling it. Once halo, forza drops, expect people to buy them.

And here is the USA, you can only see scalped XSS. Its out of stock.

We had the xbox sad (one). And devs made games for it. They will continue to make games for this guy.
I don't agree with this.

Nintendo don't apply by the regular market rules.

The Switch regularly sells out in Europe. And it has for many years (I have one and don't quite understand the demand myself).

Switch doesn't have a higher end console, yet, which might help matters. Since all the games on the platform are uncompromised.

Whereas the XSS doesn't seem to be appealing in Europe. Maybe people don't like having next gen features missing.
 

kingfey

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I don't agree with this.

Nintendo don't apply by the regular market rules.

The Switch regularly sells out in Europe. And it has for many years (I have one and don't quite understand the demand myself).

Switch doesn't have a higher end console, yet, which might help matters. Since all the games on the platform are uncompromised.

Whereas the XSS doesn't seem to be appealing in Europe. Maybe people don't like having next gen features missing.
The switch value lies in hand held mode. People can play on the go. Plus big hits like mario kart, and smash bros.

Xss is a new console, while the switch had 4 years to pump out games.

We are still in the first year, and target audience for the XSS wont buy, until xbox releases their big titles.

People value 2 things. cheap console, and convenient console. both switch and xss fills that role.
 

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The switch value lies in hand held mode. People can play on the go. Plus big hits like mario kart, and smash bros.

Xss is a new console, while the switch had 4 years to pump out games.

We are still in the first year, and target audience for the XSS wont buy, until xbox releases their big titles.

People value 2 things. cheap console, and convenient console. both switch and xss fills that role.
I agree. The XSS offers the absolute best value especially when you consider Game pass. You can get the console and game pass for the price of other consoles alone. Looking at the excitement around the Steam Deck the XSS offers even more power for less money. No other platform offers more power for less money. Best bang for your buck indeed.
 

dcmk7

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The switch value lies in hand held mode. People can play on the go. Plus big hits like mario kart, and smash bros.

Xss is a new console, while the switch had 4 years to pump out games.

We are still in the first year, and target audience for the XSS wont buy, until xbox releases their big titles.

People value 2 things. cheap console, and convenient console. both switch and xss fills that role.
I do agree with this.

Switch has the portability which helps massively.

I think if the XSS was going to be a hit, it would be a hit already. It's almost been a year since release.

No one can get a XSX right now, so unless it's mismarketing or no one sees the appeal of a console which is much more limited, the XSS doesn't seem to be selling.
 
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kingfey

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I do agree with this.

Switch has the portability which helps massively.

I think if the XSS was going to be a hit, it would be a hit already. It's almost been a year since release.

No one can get a XSX right now, so unless it's mismarketing or no one sees the appeal of a console which is much more limited, the XSS doesn't seem to be selling.
Games. That is the weakness of the xss right now. There isnt any major game from xbox since release.
 

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You heard it here Xbox dudes, celebrating isn't bad, just make sure y'all check in with On Demand to make sure you don't end up looking foolish and teasing PS fans on a site that is 90 percent Sony fans.

Good MS news is so entertaining.

lol. What a way to miss the point.

Keep celebrating false victories. You’re the same people saying consoles sales are not important to now running to vgchartz to prove something.

Japanese games didn’t matter, until they did.

Exclusive didn’t matter, until they did.

Exclusive are anti consumer, until they aren’t.

Hardware sales don’t matter, until they do.

Xbox fans are the most flip flop and hypocritical there is. It’s hilarious to watch.
 

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how does it? the 360 was an entire gen ago and also the result of sonys colossal pricing mistake. there is no $200 gap between ps5 and xsx. in the entire time both brands have been around, that was the only time xbox managed to outsell PS in the US and microsoft threw it away with xbox one. maybe sony will make another colossal mistake in the future but this gen they have been damn near perfect when you consider that most peoples main complaint about them is they are "too quiet".

anyway what honestly makes you think xsx can sell more than ps5? i cant see how anyone can come to that conclusion without heavy bias. PS5 will sell more. theres no doubt about it.
Wow every response from you sounds like a CRY of triggered fanboy bias.
I gave my reasons why and it seems to have hurt your feelings.
It's not that serious d00d really.

I am biased of what exactly please do answer.
 

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You don’t understand what this image is saying do you.

I don’t think I’ve seen any Sony fans behaving this way over the current NPD.

It isn't about PS5 fans. It's about Playstation 5 itself coming in 3rd while also being the fastest selling new console. Clearly a joke, just having fun. 😁
 

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Dude no one says you should stop visiting the site. Its just that your constant whining about sony fanboys is annoying, when you are doing the same shit for the "other side"
Is it fartynoob/spideyfan again? Same shtick.

Like Banjo64, he uses his ps5 as a shield to trash Sony fans all day. Guys, stop hiding behind your PS5 while you fight for Xbox in all your post history/reactions. We see right through you.

Keep celebrating false victories. You’re the same people saying consoles sales are not important to now running to vgchartz to prove something.

Japanese games didn’t matter, until they did.

Exclusive didn’t matter, until they did.

Exclusive are anti consumer, until they aren’t.

Hardware sales don’t matter, until they do.

Xbox fans are the most flip flop and hypocritical there is. It’s hilarious to watch.
Yep, they deserve an award for all these mental gymnastics. Everyday they switch to a new narrative.
 

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lol. What a way to miss the point.

Keep celebrating false victories. You’re the same people saying consoles sales are not important to now running to vgchartz to prove something.

Japanese games didn’t matter, until they did.

Exclusive didn’t matter, until they did.

Exclusive are anti consumer, until they aren’t.

Hardware sales don’t matter, until they do.

Xbox fans are the most flip flop and hypocritical there is. It’s hilarious to watch.
 

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Until anyone can walk into a store and pick up a PS5 or XsX without hassle or overpriced bundles, these numbers mean nothing.
 

Bernd Lauert

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It does make me wonder if they realise they made a mistake... It's available pretty much all through Europe.

No one seems to want a console half a foot in the past and half a foot in the future.

Even their own studios were worried about it. Be interesting to see what happens next.
>no one seems to want it
>4000 reviews
loop perfect loops GIF
 
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I think we can all agree that the XSX will not perform worse when its onslaught of AAA first party games starts flooding game pass every 3 months than now.
That’s all I’m going to say.
We can all make our future predictions based on that simple fact.
 
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No, because Sony does not get any money at all to make the game.
Sony is publishing the game on PS and is developing it. So they fund the game and take the risk of that. MLB gets royalties for the MLB license. (Same as Fifa, or the NBA do not pay EA to make the game)

Now MLB wanted to make the game multiplatform and earn more money after they saw how much NBA2K is making.

But they know they also need a good product to sell and make money. So they went to Sony and negotiated.
"You keep the license and he publisher on PS (make all the money, minus our royalties), but have to make the game on Xbox, too which we can monetize.


Sony is paying development costs of MLB The Show, not the MLB.
So if anything, Sony is paying their own first party developer more to make the game on Xbox.



There is a slight possibility, that MLB as publisher is paying Sony for the port, but that does not seem likely and would be a drop in the bucket anyways.

The bolded is what I was talking about. And it's odd that you are trying to downplay it. Why? It'll be stupid for Sony to make the game from the Xbox consoles, yet not negotiate more money for making it.
 

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Is it fartynoob/spideyfan again? Same shtick.

Like Banjo64, he uses his ps5 as a shield to trash Sony fans all day. Guys, stop hiding behind your PS5 while you fight for Xbox in all your post history/reactions. We see right through you.


Yep, they deserve an award for all these mental gymnastics. Everyday they switch to a new narrative.
You’re fucking nuts you crank :messenger_tears_of_joy:

What a bell end :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

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PSA: PS5 is already almost 4M units in the lead over XSX/S as per VG Chartz and it’s very early days. Xbox seems to have gone equal in US but getting absolutely clobbered outside of it.
PSA: you could count the number of pieces of corn in your bum rubbish and have just as good a guess as VG Chartz. Don't use VG Chartz, it's literally made up numbers. They then go back and edit the numbers when the companies release official numbers so it looks like they were correct.
 
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Wow every response from you sounds like a CRY of triggered fanboy bias.
I gave my reasons why and it seems to have hurt your feelings.
It's not that serious d00d really.

I am biased of what exactly please do answer.

Ok, no need to start being a jerk about it. Like you said, it isnt that serious.

Hopefully we get some hard sales numbers for the US and we can see exactly how each console is performing. I stick with my stance though that ps5 will outsell series consoles this gen. Even if the gap is like only 2m or something. I thought most people thought the same? Does a single month point otherwise? I reiterate that even xbox one managed a 3 month win streak over PS4 after the launch of xbox one s.
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

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Ok, no need to start being a jerk about it. Like you said, it isnt that serious.

Hopefully we get some hard sales numbers for the US and we can see exactly how each console is performing. I stick with my stance though that ps5 will outsell series consoles this gen. Even if the gap is like only 2m or something. I thought most people thought the same? Does a single month point otherwise? I reiterate that even xbox one managed a 3 month win streak over PS4 after the launch of xbox one s.
You called me biased.
I asked you what I was biased of.
 
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You called me biased.
I asked you what I was biased of.

Ok maybe I shouldn't have said you may have a bias. I apologise for that. I'm into sales data and analysis so I do tend to rant a little bit on the topic. These are my genuine thoughts on it but I could absolutely be wrong and way off the mark. One thing we can both agree on is that nothing is certain. All 3 companies have made major mistakes in the past. Anything's possible.
 

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Why it has to be fucking Nintendo
Because a lot of people around the World wants to have fun with Nintendo.

Switch has sold the most units for what.... 30 months in a row now? I think that's an NPD record.
For 31 consecutive months.
The record for longest consecutive streak as the best selling console in US was broken a long time ago (the previous record holder was XB360 with 21 consecutive months).
By now we are just witnessing for how long the record will be stretched.
 
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Can't we just go back to the last what, 7 years, of NPD threads where it's just a sea of kratos/drake/ratchet/killzone/ellie avatars chanting "BEAST!!" repeatedly to each other while shitting on xbox? At least that way I knew not to even bother looking.

Weird that the Xbox sold more since it's more supply constrained than the PS5 though. Either the PS5 shipped less this month to stores, or there are some sitting on shelves/warehouses at some store? Seems unlikely to be the second.

Nintendo gonna nintendo though. They're the real "BEAST!!!!" console in terms of sales though. Years and years of everyone gushing over the PS4 as the greatest of all time and the little ol' "underpowered" switch is just rolling along making the "beast" look like a little hamster. How long til the Switch has sold more lifetime than the PS4? Probably only 12-18 months max by now right? Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the Switch outsells the PS5 from the PS5s launch too. Insane smash hit by Nintendo.
 

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How long til the Switch has sold more lifetime than the PS4? Probably only 12-18 months max by now right?
If Switch has another monster year in 2021, comparable to 2020 (around 9 million Switch consoles were sold), then it will beat PS4 LTD by December 2021.
Of course it's a big "if", 9 million of consoles sold in a single year is a lot.

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Talking about the US market obviously.
 
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Can't we just go back to the last what, 7 years, of NPD threads where it's just a sea of kratos/drake/ratchet/killzone/ellie avatars chanting "BEAST!!" repeatedly to each other while shitting on xbox? At least that way I knew not to even bother looking.

Weird that the Xbox sold more since it's more supply constrained than the PS5 though. Either the PS5 shipped less this month to stores, or there are some sitting on shelves/warehouses at some store? Seems unlikely to be the second.

Nintendo gonna nintendo though. They're the real "BEAST!!!!" console in terms of sales though. Years and years of everyone gushing over the PS4 as the greatest of all time and the little ol' "underpowered" switch is just rolling along making the "beast" look like a little hamster. How long til the Switch has sold more lifetime than the PS4? Probably only 12-18 months max by now right? Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the Switch outsells the PS5 from the PS5s launch too. Insane smash hit by Nintendo.

people keep saying beast to playstation because of its crazy consistency in performance. the brand itself is a beast! vita was the only major flop. which other company could have launched a system at $599 in 2007 and still end up at almost 90m units sold? even if you personally dislike the brand, which is fine but give it some credit atleast. you act like having multiple consoles selling over 100m units is nothing and is easy. both switch and ps4 are beasts and i give credit to both companies for their success. they earned it with hard work. its not easy to make high quality games.
 

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As a person who plays fifa 21 on xbox, sometimes it hurts not getting connected to a certain game mode. I am stuck waiting in the queue line.

Maybe there isn't any players that much active these days. I stopped playing ultimate team, and focused more on my player. Psg doesn't let me play that much though 😑. Always of the bench most of the time.
That's weird, being playing FIFA for 2 gens now switching between PS & Xbox every couple of years and my experience has been identical on both consoles.
 
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people keep saying beast to playstation because of its crazy consistency in performance. the brand itself is a beast! vita was the only major flop. which other company could have launched a system at $599 in 2007 and still end up at almost 90m units sold? even if you personally dislike the brand, which is fine but give it some credit atleast. you act like having multiple consoles selling over 100m units is nothing and is easy. both switch and ps4 are beasts and i give credit to both companies for their success. they earned it with hard work. its not easy to make high quality games.
That's not at all what people were saying it for lol. The PS3 didn't sell a hundred million.
 

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Can't we just go back to the last what, 7 years, of NPD threads where it's just a sea of kratos/drake/ratchet/killzone/ellie avatars chanting "BEAST!!" repeatedly to each other while shitting on xbox? At least that way I knew not to even bother looking.

Weird that the Xbox sold more since it's more supply constrained than the PS5 though. Either the PS5 shipped less this month to stores, or there are some sitting on shelves/warehouses at some store? Seems unlikely to be the second.

Nintendo gonna nintendo though. They're the real "BEAST!!!!" console in terms of sales though. Years and years of everyone gushing over the PS4 as the greatest of all time and the little ol' "underpowered" switch is just rolling along making the "beast" look like a little hamster. How long til the Switch has sold more lifetime than the PS4? Probably only 12-18 months max by now right? Hell I wouldn't be surprised if the Switch outsells the PS5 from the PS5s launch too. Insane smash hit by Nintendo.

Microsoft reserved some stock for Amazon Prime Day. They were selling units for several hours before it finally ran out. That was by far the longest stretch of stock availability I have seen so far this gen.
 
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Weird that the Xbox sold more since it's more supply constrained than the PS5 though. Either the PS5 shipped less this month to stores, or there are some sitting on shelves/warehouses at some store? Seems unlikely to be the second.

How when people were posting pictures of the console sitting on shelves and it was available at BestBuy.com for more than a hour?
 
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