TheGodfather07
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Lol remember when we thought the stock would be sorted by mid 2021? almost a year later and still barely a PS5 in sight.
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Nintendo Switch was Europe's No.1 console in March | European Monthly Charts (Xbox Series No.2, PS5 No. 3)
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kraspkibble
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switch is a monster. xbox doing well too. sony better find a way to make more PS5s 
no real rush to get one. that makes it more insane. i kept my PS4 and all i'm really missing out on is a game from 2009 (demons souls). can play HFW, GT7 and God of War whenever it's out.
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El Pistolero
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Like what? Please enlighten us...
Deerock71
Member
Sony is definitely having way worse issues than they anticipated,
I wonder if they'll try to rush a slim model since the current must be a nightmare to manufacture and ship given its weight and complexity
If another year continues to be a mess i could see the ps5 ending up under 100 million just because they missed so many sales during years with spiked demand and then once they get everything sorted they'll be dropping into a period of high inflation
Nintendo certainly had a stroke of luck, switch was already a hit, but then getting the crazy momentum of 2020 and 2021 in their sails could see them achieving the highest selling conse of all time
Marvel14
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There are so many great games available for Switch. Sometimes I just don't understand gamers "I am depriving myself of excellent experiences until something better comes along". The truth is that the Switch is one of the best consoles ever made. It hits so many plus points in terms of form factor and library. If you've got too much to play and no time then I can see a point in holding off. But if you like playing games and are looking for new experiences why on earth would you refuse to play unless you're a brand loyalist or a graphics whore?
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Astral Dog
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Switch needs to stay on top all of 2022, after Bayonetta 3 launches then it has my permission to fall
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Congratulations to all parties, here's hoping the new premium consoles continue to get more stocks like Xbox did over the last few days.
lughnasadh123
Member
This is probably going to be the weirdest gen ever with how fucked up everything is thanks to shortages.
prinz_valium
Member
You miss out on not wasting hours of lifetime you never get back thanks to super slow boot and load times.switch is a monster. xbox doing well too. sony better find a way to make more PS5s
no real rush to get one. that makes it more insane. i kept my PS4 and all i'm really missing out on is a game from 2009 (demons souls). can play HFW, GT7 and God of War whenever it's out.
Just get a Series S. Bought my 3rd for 175€ the other day
ZehDon
Member
I recall reading that Microsoft paid for chip prioritisation for its hardware, which is how its managing to put out more stock than Sony. If so, this may indicate we're starting to see the fruits of that. Xbox beating PlayStation in Europe - even for just one month - isn't a sentence we've seen since before the Xbone cratered on launch.
Scotty W
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Sounds like the PS5 is the Wii U of Playstations.
remember_spinal
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What a high pedastal to be on considering the ps5 already outsold the Wii U in totality in one region alone.
Also, in order for the ps5 to be the equivalent to the wii-u would mean that people don’t actually want it.
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leo-j
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I mean they can’t do anythingThe wording was the following
aka they don't want to change the targets cause lowering the goal would be taking the easy way out (okay????), they think supply issues will continue into fy22, they might revise the forecast when they announce the fy21 results.
Craig of War
Banned
I know but I was just giving more context to their forecast for the next financial year.
TheTony316
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Can't be. The PS5 is a console people actually want to own.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DenchDeckard
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I work in the PC business and I know we saw some serious shortages on WiFi 6 modules. Substrate was also affecting cpu and gpu production but we have seen an improvement recently.
I honestly have no idea, but I'm just interested in if its some more specialised component that is affecting the overall production. Copper prices increased and saw delays, is the memory they are using for the ssd specialised?
Maybe it's a combination of things.
We know Microsoft went with more standard off the shelf components on many of their parts and an older WiFi module. Maybe this has helped them get units out the door.
I'm just genuinely intrigued and am struggling to see that it's just their APU at the root cause of the issue. It's smaller than the series x and there seems to be an improvement to chip output at tsmc across the board....Well more demand has dropped across all tech. The APU does need to clock a lot higher so maybe its just a yield thing. No idea.
Would love to know.
yazenov
Member
Maybe due to the lack of PS5 available. Most games sell most on PS5 rather than PS4 on Sony's consoles. This is for Europe and Japan is the opposite obviously.
Microsoft's earning call is largely going to be boring imo without many insights yet unless they announce in the next couple of weeks that they will change the divisions and how they get reported (if the ABK deal does complete, I think it would be broken out of More Personal Computing although that might not get us much more data)
The Sony one is the interesting personally.
Kagey K
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I agree MS will be technically boring, I expect a couple questions about gaming now that it is becoming a larger part of its portfolio.
Most shareholders tend to gloss over it though, as it's not what they are investing in.
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DenchDeckard
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When is sonys yearly report? This one's gonna be very interesting.
MS 26th April
ABK 25th April I think
Sony 10th May (JST)
Nintendo 10th May (JST)
Ubisoft 11th May
from the top of my head
prinz_valium
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I don't think that happen. Might not even report more performance metrics.
Azure has 1 metric being reported. Let that sink in.
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Yeah, MS are very lucky that they are stupidly profitably as so shareholders don't hold their feet to the fire.
Vognerful
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Nah, people will start spamming the "switch is not a home console, you can't compare it to PS5 or PS2".
Goalus
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onesvenus
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More interesting data for those that like to compare game sales numbers between platforms.
Xbox shows a larger share of copies being sold digitally vs playstation (41 % vs 34% on Lego Star Wars). Overall is 39% vs 34% sales on PlayStation vs Xbox accounting for digital and physical sales which, seeing the disparity in installed base, seems a great number for Xbox.
Does somebody know if the share publishers lose from distribution of physical games is larger than the 30% cut they lose when selling digitally? Publishers might love those numbers if they get more money digitally
Xbox shows a larger share of copies being sold digitally vs playstation (41 % vs 34% on Lego Star Wars). Overall is 39% vs 34% sales on PlayStation vs Xbox accounting for digital and physical sales which, seeing the disparity in installed base, seems a great number for Xbox.
Does somebody know if the share publishers lose from distribution of physical games is larger than the 30% cut they lose when selling digitally? Publishers might love those numbers if they get more money digitally
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Table in the UK Digital thread of the split between the platforms.
I am also interested in the pie charts of a digital sale and physical sale.
El Pistolero
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Interesting. I thought it was solely because of the limited APUs that they have been able to obtain...
I doubt anybody in the know would stop by to explain what it might be, however...
I think it's well known or rumoured that Sony had an extra couple of months of production ahead of Microsoft. I wouldnt say it was a 2019 machine.
Woopah
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Lego split is surprising. You would have thought the Switch version would be a bit higher than that (even though Nintendo has historically not been as strong in the UK).
The Vita is the Wii U of Playstations.
I wouldn't say it's as clear cut as that. We have examples from UK, Switzerland (and I believe Spain as well) where the PS4 versions of game sold better than the PS5 versions in some weeks. It depends on the game.
Found the following online but haven't been able to confirm
Split for some previous Lego games
Lego Indiana Jones :
Wii : 27%
360 : 22%
PS2 : 20%
PS3 : 17%
NDS : 13%
PC : 2%
Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens :
PS4 : 46%
XB1 : 28%
360 : 13%
PS3 : 8%
3DS/PSV : 5%
(Wii U version was not release the same week)
Lego DC Villains :
PS4 : 46%
XB1 : 32%
NSW : 22%
ethomaz
Banned
It is about how many APUs they can make.Interesting. I thought it was solely because of the limited APUs that they have been able to obtain...
I doubt anybody in the know would stop by to explain what it might be, however...
Sony still provide more chips when MS but have more countries to supply so some countries ends to having lower numbers.
MS increases the numbers of chips producing more Series S than Series X… so they have more consoles to ship… Sony doesn’t have that option.
Even so overall Sony sells more consoles globally than MS… Sony have more production allocation at TSMC than MS.
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ReBurn
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Maybe everyone who wanted a PS5 already bought one
BusierDonkey
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The Vita is the Virtual Boy of Playstations.
ethomaz
Banned
That explain why it is sold out in minutes and people are complaining they can’t buy one
M1chl
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I like people acting like UK coming out of EU means it drifted down the pacific ocean, dem EU ropes holding UK in place getting sewered.
Woopah
Member
That's very interesting data, especially for DC Villains. I guess I wasn't taking userbase of each platform into account enough.
I agree. It has to be something else. Perhaps there's a clue. Plastic covers (all except that burgundy that no one wants) are unobtainium since January. I can't even get PS5 stand replacement. Sony said they sent me one back in early Dec and I never received it. After 10 calls to their support team , I just gave up. It does really feel that something's not right.
SLB1904
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Come on the technology packed on Switch is not compared to gameboy, that shit was a tank
Love my switch but after joy con drift on both controllers. Ok was a 2017 model but still.
What’s cool is I’ve seen the actual GB in the Nintendo NY store and my actual switch does have a protective plastic over the screen to stop scratches.
The upper limit for a Switch 2 release is 2024. And the next gen Switch will definitely play Switch games, so it’s a fair strategy to want to wait a year or two to get a higher specced console that will play the same games you cite, and be forward compatible for the next 7 years.
A next gen switch with have more powerful visuals and better load speeds. Likely better display too. It’s perfectly fine to wait.