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|OT| Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread

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If this is true, then the only game for which I could see Sony forking over that kind of money for temporary exclusivity would be GTA VI.
Don’t be daft. No one would pay that money for timed exclusivity for anything. That’s even more absurd than the original rumour.
 
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so the narrative now is that sony made a deal for one game exclusivity for 750 mil?
I'd really love to see this, it will be very interesting
 

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If true, Jim Ryan is using all their brand's power to hit full cylinders over MS and define next gen right at the start. MS won't have their first party next gen games at the beginning but Halo(look at the munkee!!), are in much worse position to buy timed exclusivities judging by the size of the studios so far(Sony aimed the big publishers) and Gamepass deals won't lock games out of PS. That's in line with fast migration and 10mil PS5 in the market this year.
 

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If true, Jim Ryan is using all their brand's power to hit full cylinders over MS and define next gen right at the start. MS won't have their first party next gen games at the beginning but Halo(look at the munkee!!), are in much worse position to buy timed exclusivities judging by the size of the studios so far(Sony aimed the big publishers) and Gamepass deals won't lock games out of PS. That's in line with fast migration and 10mil PS5 in the market this year.
Certainly looks like it. Sony are coming into this generation in a MUCH better place than 2013. Sony Group have turned things around and PlayStation is a sales juggernaut that prints money.

If he hadn’t been doing the rounds enquiring about potential deals he wouldn’t have been doing his job properly.
 

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Don’t be daft. No one would pay that money for timed exclusivity for anything. That’s even more absurd than the original rumour.
For six months to a year, I'm sure that Sony would pay that much. Such an exclusivity deal would drive sells of the PlayStation 5 through the roof, and the profits from those hardware sells and subsequent money spent in the PlayStation ecosystem on other software would eat the $750M price tag of the exclusivity deal.
 
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So a few days ago I posted somewhere that the Big Navi was supposed to have 12GB of RAM (or was it 16GB? Not sure) and I said it was too little... now the specs for RTX3000 have leaked and apparently the 2080Ti successor will have 24GB.

 

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So a few days ago I posted somewhere that the Big Navi was supposed to have 12GB of RAM (or was it 16GB? Not sure) and I said it was too little... now the specs for RTX3000 have leaked and apparently the 2080Ti successor will have 24GB.

How much do you think it will cost? I'm willing to pay $1400 for it.
 
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So a few days ago I posted somewhere that the Big Navi was supposed to have 12GB of RAM (or was it 16GB? Not sure) and I said it was too little... now the specs for RTX3000 have leaked and apparently the 2080Ti successor will have 24GB.

Oh WOW!! So the RTX 3080 Ti will have 24 GB GDDR6? That’s a lot, that’s overkill!

It’s also gonna be pricey. 🔥🔥🔥
 
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So a few days ago I posted somewhere that the Big Navi was supposed to have 12GB of RAM (or was it 16GB? Not sure) and I said it was too little... now the specs for RTX3000 have leaked and apparently the 2080Ti successor will have 24GB.

There's was a speculation that initially the ram amount was supposed to be higher but due to an increase in price they had to reduce it.
 
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So a few days ago I posted somewhere that the Big Navi was supposed to have 12GB of RAM (or was it 16GB? Not sure) and I said it was too little... now the specs for RTX3000 have leaked and apparently the 2080Ti successor will have 24GB.

As we've said here already many times - compensation for slow SSD/IO solution on PC market will be growth of VRAM.
These cards will have some future proof with this amount of VRAM.
 
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So a few days ago I posted somewhere that the Big Navi was supposed to have 12GB of RAM (or was it 16GB? Not sure) and I said it was too little... now the specs for RTX3000 have leaked and apparently the 2080Ti successor will have 24GB.

Interestingly enough, AMD's RDNA 2 discrete GPU's were supposed to be competing with Nvidia's upcoming Ampere cards, "Big Navi" vs something like a 3080. Whilst RDNA 2 does bring massive improvements over RDNA 1 such as IPC gains, ray tracing and VRS. It seems like RDNA 3 is going to be AMD's most "revolutionary'' graphics card according to a reliable and very accurate leaker known as "Aquarius Z" via RedGamingTech.
 
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Damn, my cut-off point is $1400 (excluding taxes). However, if this card will last the entirety of the ninth generation of consoles, then I'll increase my cut-off point to get it.
I think it will last the entirety of new generation just fine :D
Even 2080ti will last fine.
But anything lower will probably need replacing.
 
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Interestingly enough, AMD's RDNA 2 discrete GPU's were supposed to be competing with Nvidia's upcoming Ampere cards, "Big Navi" vs something like a 3080. Whilst RDNA 2 does bring massive improvements over RDNA 1 such as IPC gains, ray tracing and VRS. It seems like RDNA 3 is going to be AMD's most "revolutionary'' graphics card according to a reliable and very accurate leaker known as "Aquarius Z" via RedGamingTech.
I'm not hating on AMD; my first two graphics cards were by ATI/ AMD (Radeon 5870 1GB GDDR3 and Radeon 7970 3GB GDDR5). However, I must admit that prior to the release of a new series of graphics cards by AMD, there's always the narrative that AMD will usurp Nvidia, and then when it becomes apparent that they will fail to do so, the narrative becomes that AMD will usurp Nvidia with their next generation of graphics cards. I'll believe it when it happens, but never before then.
 

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I'm not hating on AMD; my first two graphics cards were by ATI/ AMD (Radeon 5870 1GB GDDR3 and Radeon 7970 3GB GDDR5). However, I must admit that prior to the release of a new series of graphics cards by AMD, there's always the narrative that AMD will usurp Nvidia, and then when it becomes apparent that they will fail to do so, the narrative becomes that AMD will usurp Nvidia with their next generation of graphics cards. I'll believe it when it happens, but never before then.
Nvidia isn't sleeping like Intel did.
 

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For six months to a year, I'm sure that Sony would pay that much. Such an exclusivity deal would drive sells of the PlayStation 5 through the roof, and the profits from those hardware sells and subsequent money spent in the PlayStation ecosystem on other software would eat the $750M price tag of the exclusivity deal.
6-12 months exclusivity? Then divide that quoted $750 million by at least ten.
 
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6-12 months exclusivity? Then divide that quoted $750 million by at least ten.
$75M wouldn't be enough to convince RockStar to restrict GTA VI to the PlayStation 5 for 6 months to a year, considering that GTA V earned $1B in only three days.
 

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Per Matt one doesn’t exclude the other. It seems Sony has given Jim Ryan a clear directive, to go for the throat.
Looks like gaming Nextflix wars are real. Each party needs to lock in that content to keep people ringfenced. No doubt MS spree has put a rocket up Sony’s ass and this is the retaliation.

Situation sucks. Best choose your eco system wisely, or go both if easier.
 

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Anyone ever notice that all he hears are rumors of when an event might be (unless it gets changed)? He knows something like that, but never really seems to hear anything about contents unless some other insider mentions it first? That’s really odd. I mean, to know soooo much about when, but not what? Strange.
It's a bit strange that Grubb backed him as a 'credible' source. Still don't know for sure if that was a joke.
 

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$75M wouldn't be enough to convince RockStar to restrict GTA VI to the PlayStation 5 for 6 months to a year, considering that GTA V earned $1B in only three days.
1. Retail sales =/= Take 2 revenue.
2. They’re not losing any PlayStation revenue, in fact they probably gain.
3. Timed exclusivity is a deferral of Xbox revenue not a complete loss

Total T2 revenue from sales of the XBO version of GTA V is probably under $200 million with GTA Online revenue on top. $750 million gets Sony the whole shooting match no bother at all.

edit: and deferring $200 million by a year, what’s that worth with interest rates at close to zero? Even applying the average return on the DJIA for 2019 that’s under $50 million.
 
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I'm not hating on AMD; my first two graphics cards were by ATI/ AMD (Radeon 5870 1GB GDDR3 and Radeon 7970 3GB GDDR5). However, I must admit that prior to the release of a new series of graphics cards by AMD, there's always the narrative that AMD will usurp Nvidia, and then when it becomes apparent that they will fail to do so, the narrative becomes that AMD will usurp Nvidia with their next generation of graphics cards. I'll believe it when it happens, but never before then.
Oh yeah, I don't have a PC but I've seen the narrative over the past few years, somehow every year AMD will come up with an "Nvidia killer" but never seems to happen lol

Although the next few years will be different, both PS5 and Series X will offer high end performance for something which is $500 and it will be using RDNA 2, Nvidia will have to come up with something compelling, both in terms of tech and price.
 

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Oh yeah, I don't have a PC but I've seen the narrative over the past few years, somehow every year AMD will come up with an "Nvidia killer" but never seems to happen lol

Although the next few years will be different, both PS5 and Series X will offer high end performance for something which is $500 and it will be using RDNA 2, Nvidia will have to come up with something compelling, both in terms of tech and price.
Nvidia's Ampere series of graphics cards will wipe the floor with the PlayStation 5 and the Xbox Series X and it will be released before them.