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Even your quote from a dude on Twitter who does NOT work for MS doesn't claim that there will be a 100% performance delta. On top of that Dealer actually has a PS5 which makes him more of a game fan than one talks about a system them don't own. You guys are fighting phantoms. Also check the date on the post you listed. The beginning of last year.
For someone who is fortunate to have both systems (albeit one with very bad coil whine) you seem to be extremely sensitive to anything remotely negative towards Xbox yet seem to revel in all anti PlayStation news.

And I think you should read his original post again, I think you've misinterpreted it bud.
 

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has a PS5 which makes him more of a game fan than one talks about a system them don't own.
Ohh well you should ignore that.. there are a lot of sack sacks in here who will vote for the most negative option just because they have a strong dislike for Platform X or Y. Obviously works both ways.

But it certainly shouldn't be a taken as a representative sample :messenger_tears_of_joy:
No. Look. People are purchasing ps5 and series x. It makes you a game fan. It also allows you to talk about the other platform with immunity. It’s real man...it’s real I tell ya. Like for me, I don’t have an x. That why I was wrong when I said you could get gamepass for $1 a month for 3 years. I was wrong. If I had an Xbox I would have known it’s $1 total for 3 years or .03 cents a month. See?
 
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For someone who is fortunate to have both systems (albeit one with very bad coil whine) you seem to be extremely sensitive to anything remotely negative towards Xbox yet seem to revel in all anti PlayStation news.

And I think you should read his original post again, I think you've misinterpreted it bud.

When it comes to last gen I do own a PS4 Pro, Xbox One X and Switch. However that doesn't mean I'm neutral though. Anyone reading through my comment history can clearly see that I have a pretty big preference for Playstation. I believe DarkMage619 DarkMage619 is the opposite though where his preference is for Xbox. But the difference here is he tries to come off as neutral when that really isn't evident from his comment history.

DarkMage619 DarkMage619 false neutrality is something that will irritate many people here. It's better if your just open about the side that you support otherwise you will continue to have issues here. It's fine that you own all platforms but it doesn't mean you love all platforms the same. At least I've never been dishonest with my preferences here.

Just offering some friendly advice.
 

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Even your quote from a dude on Twitter who does NOT work for MS doesn't claim that there will be a 100% performance delta. On top of that Dealer actually has a PS5 which makes him more of a game fan than one talks about a system them don't own. You guys are fighting phantoms. Also check the date on the post you listed. The beginning of last year.

Dealer is absolute POS, spreading BS . His gimmick is to throw as much shit at the wall and see what sticks. And to say Dealer is a gamer is BS as well, he paid $500 to legitimize his nonsense. The guy has 95k subscribers, what is wrong with Xbox fans, by the way i have owned Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox one, and Xbox One X so i am not being a hater on the guy. Don't get me wrong Sony fans have Crapgamer with 70k subscribers and that dude is pure click-bait, horrible takes, and unwatchable.
 
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Xbox Series X probably will never be faster than PS5.
Once again PS4:
You can then selectively mark all accesses by compute as 'volatile,' and when it's time for compute to read from system memory, it can invalidate, selectively, the lines it uses in the L2. When it comes time to write back the results, it can write back selectively...
PS5 has much faster cache (read and write back results).
 

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When it comes to last gen I do own a PS4 Pro, Xbox One X and Switch. However that doesn't mean I'm neutral though. Anyone reading through my comment history can clearly see that I have a pretty big preference for Playstation. I believe DarkMage619 DarkMage619 is the opposite though where his preference is for Xbox. But the difference here is he tries to come off as neutral when that really isn't evident from his comment history.

DarkMage619 DarkMage619 false neutrality is something that will irritate many people here. It's better if your just open about the side that you support otherwise you will continue to have issues here. It's fine that you own all platforms but it doesn't mean you love all platforms the same. At least I've never been dishonest with my preferences here.

Just offering some friendly advice.

Yep 100% this, like i stated when i recently came back, a sudden influx of people pretending to be neutral when in fact they have always been die-hard xbox fans all the time.

The amount of lol or sympathy emotes i have received in regards to positive ps news from some people pretending to be neutral is staggering.

I have more respect for people that stand their ground and don't try to flip-flop or sit on the fence all the time.

It's a real bad look, and i can think of at least half a dozen people that do it on this forum.

Shame on you turncoats, Benedict Arnolds the lot of you, you know who you are.

"lollipop_disappointed:
 

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Even your quote from a dude on Twitter who does NOT work for MS doesn't claim that there will be a 100% performance delta. On top of that Dealer actually has a PS5 which makes him more of a game fan than one talks about a system them don't own. You guys are fighting phantoms. Also check the date on the post you listed. The beginning of last year.

Seriously, Dealer, Eastwood, have you actually listened to some of their podcasts, they are some of the most disingenuous people out there, i remember one podcast at the beginning of the new consoles launch when all they did was throw shade at the ps5, every single negative they could think of, they used it. From ps5 crashing to overheating, to the console being to big, not enough stock and so on and so on.

With people like Timdog, dee, and a host of either degenerates on call, are you really citing them honest?


Seriously, dude, you need to get away from channels like that, they are nasty and are causing most of the fanboy wars.

I used to listen to a guy called rand, he is def pro xbox but he is a tenth of how bad dealer and eastwood are, at least he has some sort of objectivity, he also has a ps5.
 
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Yep 100% this, like i stated when i recently came back, a sudden influx of people pretending to be neutral when in fact they have always been die-hard xbox fans all the time.

The amount of lol or sympathy emotes i have received in regards to positive ps news from some people pretending to be neutral is staggering.

I have more respect for people that stand their ground and don't try to flip-flop or sit on the fence all the time.

It's a real bad look, and i can think of at least half a dozen people that do it on this forum.

Shame on you turncoats, Benedict Arnolds the lot of you, you know who you are.

"lollipop_disappointed:
That’s pretty much the sum of it. And apparently, it’s a big conspiracy theory. It’s not actually happening. I read about that in the Xbox ot earlier when I was personally insulted/attacked. I wouldn’t have known about it until geordiemp called them out because I didn’t even know there was an Xbox ot.
 
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This is going to be one of the WORST years EVER for gaming




I knew this was coming because we are due for a HUGE drought. Can't do mocap from home efficiently. Next-generation doesn't even start till 2022. We've been suckered.
MM, Demon Souls, and Ratchet are more than enough to get me started.
 

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Yep 100% this, like i stated when i recently came back, a sudden influx of people pretending to be neutral when in fact they have always been die-hard xbox fans all the time.

The amount of lol or sympathy emotes i have received in regards to positive ps news from some people pretending to be neutral is staggering.

I have more respect for people that stand their ground and don't try to flip-flop or sit on the fence all the time.

It's a real bad look, and i can think of at least half a dozen people that do it on this forum.

Shame on you turncoats, Benedict Arnolds the lot of you, you know who you are.

"lollipop_disappointed:
That’s pretty much the sum of it. And apparently, it’s a big conspiracy theory. It’s not actually happening. I read about that in the Xbox ot earlier when I was personally insulted/attacked. I wouldn’t have known about it until geordiemp called them out because I didn’t even know there was an Xbox ot.
Here’s the lol you were referring to from duhdwafix.
I think if this thread
Becomes public we can prove or disprove any conspiracy theories and move on. Op of that thread was supposed to ask the mods to make the votes public. Funny it wasn’t from the beginning but whatever
 
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Dealer is absolute POS, spreading BS . His gimmick is to throw as much shit at the wall and see what sticks. And to say Dealer is a gamer is BS as well, he paid $500 to legitimize his nonsense. The guy has 95k subscribers, what is wrong with Xbox fans, by the way i have owned Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox one, and Xbox One X so i am not being a hater on the guy. Don't get me wrong Sony fans have Crapgamer with 70k subscribers and that dude is pure click-bait, horrible takes, and unwatchable.

This is a very worthwhile approach, serious people in the know will never pay you any mind, but you'd be surprised at the "feedback" you can unearth with this method. :messenger_grinning_smiling:

I had great fun during the spec era running with the whole fake insider thing, a lot of others did too. It's just games at the end of the day.
 
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Quick question. Who would have more credibility with regards to the Xbox? Jason Ronald and Phil Spencer OR a dude on Twitter? You can attack random dudes on Twitter all day but perhaps the big issue is who we go to for info. It's like I wouldn't go to the huge Sony fans here for objective Xbox info.

I may be a huge Sony fan but I also have a Ph.D in all things Xbox so you really should listen to me
 

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Jason Schrier said that 14 out of the 20 lead designers left naughty dog during the dev on TLOU2 and it ended up selling 4 million in 3 days and is by far the biggest GOTY winner of the year. It means nothing.

People leave companies all the time. Especially in LA. A lot of these companies are literally in the same Santa Monica area right outside LA and they all poach talent from each other all the time. I believe Respawn, Infinity Ward, Sony Santa Monica, Insomniac Games and Naughty Dog are all located within a dozen miles of each other.

Oh and Hollywood is in LA too. I remember Jason Rubin at a GDC conference talking about how he built ND into an AAA studio and he said he basically went after hollywood artists who would typically end up at CGi studios.
Correction. 14 of the 20 non lead designers left the studio not leads. Full article by Jason is here, and he says and I'll quote "One major consequence of this culture has been attrition. Of the 20 non-lead designers in the credits of 2016’s Uncharted 4, a whopping 14—70 percent—are no longer at the studio, which has had wide-ranging effects on the development of The Last of Us II and led to questions about the continued viability of the Naughty Dog approach". There's more info and the link is up there for anyone interested in reading further into the topic.
 

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Correction. 14 of the 20 non lead designers left the studio not leads. Full article by Jason is here, and he says and I'll quote "One major consequence of this culture has been attrition. Of the 20 non-lead designers in the credits of 2016’s Uncharted 4, a whopping 14—70 percent—are no longer at the studio, which has had wide-ranging effects on the development of The Last of Us II and led to questions about the continued viability of the Naughty Dog approach". There's more info and the link is up there for anyone interested in reading further into the topic.
I stand corrected.
 
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When it comes to last gen I do own a PS4 Pro, Xbox One X and Switch. However that doesn't mean I'm neutral though. Anyone reading through my comment history can clearly see that I have a pretty big preference for Playstation. I believe DarkMage619 DarkMage619 is the opposite though where his preference is for Xbox. But the difference here is he tries to come off as neutral when that really isn't evident from his comment history.

DarkMage619 DarkMage619 false neutrality is something that will irritate many people here. It's better if your just open about the side that you support otherwise you will continue to have issues here. It's fine that you own all platforms but it doesn't mean you love all platforms the same. At least I've never been dishonest with my preferences here.

Just offering some friendly advice.
Side I support? I support game companies. I have a Nintendo Switch too. You know what that makes me? A GAMER. I play games on all platforms but I have no problem calling out issues I see. But to your point find a thread where I am attacking positive PS5 news, just one.

Coil whine is a real issue no matter what Sony only fans say. No matter who demands to see PSN IDs. It's not an invention of Xbox fanboys or part of some discord cabal. The Xbox issues are well documented I'm not going to defend TV TV TV, but I won't defend horrible return policies, lack of storage expansion at launch, or coil whine. I didn't invent these issues and I experienced them first hand.

Sony isn't perfect and neither is MS. They are just game companies producing a product and they should give us the best for our money. The minute we accept whatever issues they push out the quality drops. The main thing is that MS is taken to task for any mistake real or imagined(TVTVTV, smoking overheating XSX, forced AA batteries) and Sony issues are excused(coil whine, horrible return policy). At least if I say something about PlayStation I have one to say something about(I currently don't have one since it's on its way back to Sony).
 
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Side I support? I support game companies. I have a Nintendo Switch too. You know what that makes me? A GAMER. I play games on all platforms but I have no problem calling out issues I see. But to your point find a thread where I am attacking positive PS5 news, just one.

Coil whine is a real issue no matter what Sony only fans say. No matter who demands to see PSN IDs. It's not an invention of Xbox fanboys or part of some discord cabal. The Xbox issues are well documented I'm not going to defend TV TV TV, but I won't defend horrible return policies, lack of storage expansion at launch, or coil whine. I didn't invent these issues and I experienced them first hand.

Sony isn't perfect and neither is MS. They are just game companies producing a product and they should give us the best for our money. The minute we accept whatever issues they push out the quality drops. The main thing is that MS is taken to task for any mistake real or imagined(TVTVTV, smoking overheating XSX, forced AA batteries) and Sony issues are excused(coil whine, horrible return policy). At least if I say something about PlayStation I have one to say something about(I currently don't have one since it's on its way back to Sony).
Coil whine is a non issue also please stop trying to be neutral, everyone here knows you're an xbox fanboy.
 

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Nope coil whine is a problem and Sony should fix it.
There are cards that cost over 1000 euros/dollars that have coil whine, guess NVIDIA must be sweating now.

FYI my PS5 has coil whine, I sit exactly 1 meter and 10 centimers away from it and my room is also super quiet at night. I hear it sometimes, it depends on the game but at the end of the day It's a non issue and doesn't stop me from having fun with games and enjoy the hardware. I had an issue with my PS4 being loud, I do not have an issue with my PS5 it is a quiet console.

The people complaining are either: a) people who do not own the system but need something to trash talk about b) nitpickers.

EDIT: King of the Whine would be a nice tag for you. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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There are cards that cost over 1000 euros/dollars that have coil whine, guess NVIDIA must be sweating now.

FYI my PS5 has coil whine, I sit exactly 1 meter and 10 centimers away from it and my room is also super quiet at night. I hear it sometimes, it depends on the game but at the end of the day It's a non issue and doesn't stop me from having fun with games and enjoy the hardware. I had an issue with my PS4 being loud, I do not have an issue with my PS5 it is a quiet console.

The people complaining are either: a) people who do not own the system but need something to trash talk about b) nitpickers.

There's different levels of coil whine though. Some people don't have any while others claim that it's louder than the PS4 Pro. I think you might have gotten one of the quieter ones.
 
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There's different levels of coil whine though. Some people don't have any while others claim that it's louder than the PS4 Pro. I think you might have gotten one of the quieter ones.
Yeah, unless there's video or some sort of proof I highly highly doubt that's true.

FYI I could hear my PS4 on my kitchen, which is like 10 meters away. It was crazy.
 
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no your not, your a xbox fanboy trying to smooth yourself out onto the blue side, you're not fooling anyone you dirty little toe-rag. :messenger_grinning:

Get back into your Flee-pit.
You are so cute fishy! What the heck is a flee-pit? Am I fleeing from a PS5 with coil whine to one without? I would love that! I hope Sony does right by me. Again I don't have a side I have every console which I'm sure all you guys speaking about the Xbox have as well. Why would anyone talk about a system they don't own and don't like?

Yeah, unless there's video or some sort of proof I highly highly doubt that's true.

FYI I could hear my PS4 on my kitchen, which is like 10 meters away. It was crazy.


Here is ONE video of many talking about PS5 coil whine. It is not some sort of Xbox fan conspiracy. You can't blame this on Colt, Dealer or Phil Spencer.
 
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There are cards that cost over 1000 euros/dollars that have coil whine, guess NVIDIA must be sweating now.

FYI my PS5 has coil whine, I sit exactly 1 meter and 10 centimers away from it and my room is also super quiet at night. I hear it sometimes, it depends on the game but at the end of the day It's a non issue and doesn't stop me from having fun with games and enjoy the hardware. I had an issue with my PS4 being loud, I do not have an issue with my PS5 it is a quiet console.

The people complaining are either: a) people who do not own the system but need something to trash talk about b) nitpickers.

EDIT: King of the Whine would be a nice tag for you. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Most of the time it doesn't lead to a hardware failure, so, not much to worry about. My Xbox VCR has had horrible coil whine (both high pitched and grinding), but it has chugged along without issue. Unless it is causing undue stress on the family dog, I wouldn't give it a second thought myself.
 
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You are so cute fishy! What the heck is a flee-pit? Am I fleeing from a PS5 with coil whine to one without? I would love that! I hope Sony does right by me. Again I don't have a side I have every console which I'm sure all you guys speaking about the Xbox have as well. Why would anyone talk about a system they don't own and don't like?

Come on dude, stop with the lies, your 100% an Xbox fanboy, to the fact that i know your having a good laugh as we sit here.

Then trying to say Dealer has some credibility, i mean that was a bridge two far. WAY TO FAR.

If your going to bullshit people start small, not chuck massive rocks like that.

BAD BAD BOY.

Your not fooling anyone.

Its like the time i asked Riky Riky , do you watch Dealer videos and he was like who is Dealer hahah. NO
 
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You are so cute fishy! What the heck is a flee-pit? Am I fleeing from a PS5 with coil whine to one without? I would love that! I hope Sony does right by me. Again I don't have a side I have every console which I'm sure all you guys speaking about the Xbox have as well. Why would anyone talk about a system they don't own and don't like?




Here is ONE video of many talking about PS5 coil whine. It is not some sort of Xbox fan conspiracy. You can't blame this on Colt, Dealer or Phil Spencer.

Man your xbox fanboy posts go all the way back to 2006

Just admit where your allegiance lies like the rest of us lmao
 
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Come on dude, stop with the lies, your 100% an Xbox fanboy, to the fact that i know your having a good laugh as we sit here.

Then trying to say Dealer has some credibility, i mean that was a bridge two far. WAY TO FAR.

If your going to bullshit people start small, not chuck massive rocks like that.

BAD BAD BOY.

Your not fooling anyone.

Its like the time i asked Riky Riky , do you watch Dealer videos and he was like who is Dealer hahah. NO
Lies? What are you on man? You guys take this console war stuff waaaay too seriously. What did I 'lie' about? I don't know about Dealer's credibility but if he has a PS5, things he says about that console holds more weight than a guy who doesn't own the system and is trash talking on the internet. It's pretty easy to understand dude.

Man your xbox fanboy posts go all the way back to 2006

Just admit where your allegiance lies like the rest of us lmao
Did you say allegiance? My goodness. My allegiance is to good video games. It's my #1 hobby. I picked up every Sony system since the PS1 in 95. I'm a gamer first and foremost even if I prefer some Xbox policies like their returns and cloud saves. Who would be opposed to those things?
 
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Lies? What are you on man? You guys take this console war stuff waaaay too seriously. What did I 'lie' about? I don't know about Dealer's credibility but if he has a PS5, things he says about that console holds more weight than a guy who doesn't own the system and is trash talking on the internet. It's pretty easy to understand dude.

We have been discussing dealer in this thread since yonks back, at least 6 months, tearing him and his bullshit podcasts apart and you're telling me you missed all those posts.

Nonsense, you're pulling a fast one here, and i am not biting.
 

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Already told you my console has coil whine, it's a non issue. In fact you can only hear it perfectly when he places the phone near the console, what a surprise.
Wait so you get to determine what is an issue or not? How did you get such authority? I can hear my systems coil whine across the room. Seeing how many people have complained you might need to stretch that authority because some people didn't get the memo.

We have been discussing dealer in this thread since yonks back, at least 6 months, tearing him and his bullshit podcasts apart and you're telling me you missed all those posts.

Nonsense, you're pulling a fast one here, and i am not biting.
Say what you want about Dealer he bought the PS5. You can't say that about the Xbox's biggest detractors here and that console.
 
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Wait so you get to determine what is an issue or not? How did you get such authority? I can hear my systems coil whine across the room. Seeing how many people have complained you might need to stretch that authority because some people didn't get the memo.
I got my authority in the same place you got yours.
 

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I got my authority in the same place you got yours.
I only said it's a problem and people have the right to speak on it. If you like coil whine good for you I don't and because I have another high powered console that is silent I know Sony can do better. I hold them to a higher standard as the market leader.

Everyone has one

Even you

Alot of you are just too self-consious to admit it
Well you got me there. I pledge alliegnce to the flag of the United States of America...
 
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I only said it's a problem and people have the right to speak on it. If you like coil whine good for you I don't and because I have another high powered console that is silent I know Sony can do better. I hold them to a higher standard as the market leader.
You said it's an issue, you talk about said issue every single day in every single thread where's there's some sort of xbox vs playstation topic. You have an agenda and you also don't fool anyone around here.

I said it's a non issue, it is true for me and for the majority of people who don't even know what coil whine is. There's also a limited number of consoles with coil whine. You talk about it like it's something that stops people from enjoying games on the console, it is not, the units are also not defective. So if your PS5 sounds like a jet then you might have a defective unit.
 

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Seriously, Dealer, Eastwood, have you actually listened to some of their podcasts, they are some of the most disingenuous people out there, i remember one podcast at the beginning of the new consoles launch when all they did was throw shade at the ps5, every single negative they could think of, they used it. From ps5 crashing to overheating, to the console being to big, not enough stock and so on and so on.

With people like Timdog, dee, and a host of either degenerates on call, are you really citing them honest?


Seriously, dude, you need to get away from channels like that, they are nasty and are causing most of the fanboy wars.

I used to listen to a guy called rand, he is def pro xbox but he is a tenth of how bad dealer and eastwood are, at least he has some sort of objectivity, he also has a ps5.
Now that Colin expanded his brand with Last Stand Media, the new Xbox podcast Defining Duke should be what Xbox gamers flock to. Not those fanatical FUDding rejects who's sole purpose is to create divisions and rifts.

Plus they contain Karak Karak , from ACG.

 
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I only said it's a problem and people have the right to speak on it. If you like coil whine good for you I don't and because I have another high powered console that is silent I know Sony can do better. I hold them to a higher standard as the market leader.


Well you got me there. I pledge alliegnce to the flag of the United States of America...

Not a very good allegience this gen if you ask me

That flags been suffering from alot of of overheating
 
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about coil wine on ps5 I can confirm it is a thing

I hear it somtimes when I play on a dead quite room setting very close to consoles and in loading screen when there is no sound coming from the TV

it is not loud though but it is there

Im not sure if it is a problem but it is there for any one who is curious
 
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Now that Colin expanded his brand with Last Stand Media, the new Xbox podcast Defining Duke should be what Xbox gamers flock to. Not those fanatical FUDding rejects who's sole purpose is to create divisions and rifts.

Plus they contain Karak Karak , from ACG.

Thanks for that, will check it out. Always like ACG
 
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