-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
new 4K monitors @ CES: Will it become the next PC standard?
- Thread starter ScepticMatt
- Start date
My quick notes:
- The future is OLED
- I hate 16:9
- HDMI needs no_buffering option to bypass HDTV latency.
4K will become very popular, but the growth will be a lot slower than 1080p. However we already have Apple spewing out products with resolutions larger than 1080p (Macbook Pro, iPad Retina) so the demand is obviously there. Wouldn't surprise me if the next iMac sports a Retina display.
The XBox 720 and PS4 will support 4K video in some way. I'm guessing 4K blu-ray playback will be there (at least on the PS4), each system will be able to upscale to 4K, there will be tech-demos on the store that will run at 4K, and it's possible that the dashboard/menu will have native 4K assets. Games will run at 1080p though.
The XBox 720 and PS4 will support 4K video in some way. I'm guessing 4K blu-ray playback will be there (at least on the PS4), each system will be able to upscale to 4K, there will be tech-demos on the store that will run at 4K, and it's possible that the dashboard/menu will have native 4K assets. Games will run at 1080p though.
I didn't say it couldn't be done, just that it would be a pain
I remember getting into arguments about how PS3 supporting 1080p would be a good thing since 1080p panels would be commodity priced by the time it released. I was right about the pricing, wrong about consoles actually doing 1080p. Won't be making that mistake again. At this point, I feel we're going to be thankful if they even support 1080p as a standard rendering resolution.
Wait, you don't want 4K, but you want high pixel density? Those two things go hand in hand.
Why the hate on 16:9? Our eyes naturally have a wide viewing angle so 16:9 is much more natural to use. Or is it that you prefer 16:10?
ScepticMatt
Member
samsung live conference coming up in 2 minutes, maybe the'll have something to show too
I totally agree. I amy dislike many things the company does, but making good displays suddenly a desirable thing for the mainstream market is not one of them!
I don't see why it would. Turn down the brightness if you haven't. Most monitors ship at 100 brightness and should be set at more like 20 when properly calibrated. It's like staring at the sun. Don't know how anyone can stand it.
HyperCubed4
Member
That sounds perfectly plausible. Assuming the new consoles come out Winter 2013/Spring 2014, what year do you think we would see 4K/8K gaming?
On next-gen consoles? Never, unless 1 or 2 are released as games/tech demos. Kind of how we have a small handful of games this generation that support 1080p (Wipeout HD, Virtua Tennis 4 etc). I imagine new systems in 2020 would support 4K for every game though.
Also because Sony is pushing 4K TV's themselves, you will be seeing a lot more 4K content on the PS4 over the 720.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Nice. Can't wait to get a 4K monitor.
This will also push the need for improved GPUs to keep up with the resolution increase. Good stuff all around.
This will also push the need for improved GPUs to keep up with the resolution increase. Good stuff all around.
Sounds like a bigger improvement by calling it 4K!
Actually, I don't know but that wouldn't surprise me given the marketing terms people use these days.
HyperCubed4
Member
Ah yes, I keep forgetting that few games actually support 1080p. I first realized this while playing Dishonored, of all games. Late to the party, I guess. Having every game look as crisp as Super Stardust HD would be great.
I would assume this would (somewhat) help Sony's financial troubles.
SillyEskimo
Member
I'm still going to need 3 monitors to play anything PC related because triple monitors are the only reason I play PC games anyway.
undercoverb0ss
Member
Same here, been rocking a Dell 3007wfp-hc for ages now and the incremental updates to the monitor over the years hasn't compelled me at all to upgrade.
Waiting for OLED or higher res to upgrade.
Projectjustice
Banned
Its only natural progression. Im happy with 1080p gaming at the moment though. I will be looking forward in building myself a 4k rig one day. Unfortunately I dont see this industry switch for another 5 years at least since the new console generarion wont be 4k.
undercoverb0ss
Member
You do. The human eye is very sensitive to such sharp details. I can easily see the jaggies on a retina iPad from miles away and those screens are going to be big.
ScepticMatt
Member
Samsung still needs to get Laser-induced thermal imaging (LITI) up and running
don't now what LG uses
http://www.oled-display.net/liti-la...ess-suggest-high-resolution-oleds-in-q2-2012/
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Got to get people to upgrade their gpu's after they are on par with next-gen, so this is one way. Right now we've had so much gpu power and most games don't take advantage of it.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The correct answer.
Assuming the length of next gen isnt vastly longer than our current gen.
Im willing to bet a 2 month ban on that.
1080p & 1200p will still be the PC "standard"
If 2560 x 1440/1600 arent even making a % combined......4K isnt going to do shit....its gonna be less than 1% by the end of next-gen
4K = 4000
4k is around 4000 pixels across.
4K has a bunch of different resolutions covered, not all of them have 2160 pixel vertically.
But all of them are around 4000 pixels horizontally.
undercoverb0ss
Member
Eh, what?
My GTX 690 eats most games alive at 1600p.
A lot of the poor performance is due to driver issues and developers who don't care to optimize for PC.
SolarPowered
Member
Anything is possible once you enter the sub $400 price range.
I'm speaking of the benchmarks I've seen of the 680. A 690 being basically two 680s would no doubt be able to handle 1600p on a lot of games.
Pagusas
Elden Member
I'd say more realistically we are going to see GPU makers push for advanced scaling options. Yes it would be wonderful to run a game at 4k, but more realistically I expect nVidia and ATI to have an advanced "pixel doubling with antialiasing added and some temporal processing".
Who knows, but I dont expect native 4k modern games anytime soon.
Who knows, but I dont expect native 4k modern games anytime soon.
eh.....what does this mean?
I'm no tech buff but, O_O
You mean to tell me the higher the resolution, the less need for AA?
:O
Learn something new everyday.
The same 1440 LG panels used in Apple displays can be purchased from Overlord for ~$530 and allow overclocking to 120hz.
Agreed. Switching from the Kuro to a monitor is not pleasant experience other than the resolution increase.
More like, the higher the PPI, the less need for AA. Which of course is also affected by display size and seating distance. Resolution alone isn't a good determination of needing AA or not
Edit: All this crazy res talk and in two years I'll probably still be gaming on a 720p display. Heh.