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It’s amazing to see the heads explode when a POC is given roles. It’s now “woke”! White fragility at play.
How about changing Zulu warriors into Vikings, but still having them in Central Africa?

And yes this scenario is different because those are existing tribes in our planet Earth, but I don't know any African fantasy series to use as an example.
 

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What is your response to my post supposed to be saying? Spit it out...
It should be quite clear. I'll help you. Theres more manufactured outrage in this thread than actual outrage. Muh diversity! Screamed by you and the others is far louder than anyone complaining about forced diversity.
 

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Get help.

If no one's gonna protest then it's gonna be like with Anne Boleyn which will be played be a black skin actress. Fuck you for trying to change our continents' history.
Haha yeah gotta catch the train to Mahakam.

Really? I find euro centric mythology / folk tales to require a degree of demographic grounding to be properly immersive.

No different to Chinese mythology having actual Chinese people, or Greek mythology having olive skinned Southern European looking people for example. Would be odd to see no attention being paid where anything goes.

I feel it’s nothing but a social justice lack of respect and a deliberate disregard for Europe’s culture....because it’s white.

Anyway, I thought the show was mediocre, so I couldn’t care if they cast orange umpalumpas throughout.
Well, not really. I mean there are other more important qualities, or characteristics. Like the world constantly trying to fuck you in the ass. And while we are at it, I do notice when they are doing the "forced diversity", it's just it isnt that IMO, there were more significant examples.

And yeah. The show was average and that is the true issue, not that an elven chick is black.

I tried to re-watch it at one point, got to the golden dragon episode, and just couldnt continue it was so bad.
 

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You can't be seriously ignoring all the whining about the character being black and that she should be white as crying about forced diversity just because they didn't mention the words "forced diversity". But apparently you are because you need to fight someone who disagrees with you with dishonest remarks instead of trying to understand what he or she was trying to say. Now it has people whining about "forced diversity", others whining about it through general complaints against casting a black woman in a show that should be led by a white man, and someone willing to argue that the second type of post isn't the same as the first because they didn't use the words, only the "definition". You don't win real arguments on some irrelevant technicality.
I'm definitely not against casting a black woman. But forced diversity sticks out like a sore thumb. At this point its Netflix just being Netflix. I mean god forbid they ever create a black female role that feels relevant and creative. With diversity you don't have creativity you have bland political correctness because writers are afraid to take any risks that go against the political narrative. I preferred when black people weren't used as pawns to gain social justice points and were portrayed as powerful characters. Not going to happen in 2021 but Netflix are welcome to destroy any franchise they own.
 
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It should be quite clear. I'll help you. Theres more manufactured outrage in this thread than actual outrage. Muh diversity! Screamed by you and the others is far louder than anyone complaining about forced diversity.
Really now...I can quote all the posts and reactions in response to a black woman getting the lead but I think you have eyes to check and scroll down with people negatively responding to that announcement with one slight flick of the finger. Pretty sure we are outnumbered too, and also didn’t start it. You here defending it speaks loud and clear that you noticed.
 
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Looks interesting. I'm still waiting on Season 2. I hope that means there's a Season 3. I'd rather they not take time off from progressing the show just to do a pre-quel. I mean the show JUST started.
 

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Really now...I can quote all the posts and reactions in response to a black woman getting the lead but I think you have eyes to check and scroll down with people negatively responding to that announcement with one slight flick of the finger. Pretty sure we are outnumbered too, and also didn’t start it. You here defending it speaks loud and clear that you noticed.
Defending what? I simply called out you and others bs outrage. I've said nothing negative about the casting.
 
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Didn't even hear of the initial announcement for a prequel.

Kinda rather see season 2 be successful before worrying about expanding. I mean, season 1 was fine but as someone who read the books I found myself lost on what exactly was happening quite a few times.
 

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Defending what? I simply called out you and others bs outrage. I've said nothing negative about the casting.
Oh man, I didn’t quote you or call you out but you want to call me out on my “outrage”? Are we reading the same thread? Shouldn’t you be saying that to the people mad at this casting lmfao?
 
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Oh man, I didn’t quote you or call you out but you want to call me out on my “outrage”? Are we reading the same thread? Shouldn’t you be saying that to the people mad at this casting lmfao?
Your bullshit white fragility comment was worthy of calling out and it's completely on-brand and predictable for you. In any case, that's enough of all this. Enjoy your outrage.
 
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Your bullshit white fragility comment was worthy of calling out and it's completely on-brand and predictable for you. In any case, that's enough of all this. Enjoy your outrage.
Go project your issues (and your I’m not a Republican predictable attitude) somewhere else and ignore me next time. And I will continue to call out the white fragility in these type of threads. My outrage lmao the irony...
 
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The first series jumped back and forth in time with the plot so much that it was a fucking train wreck.

I expect the prequel to give every one of us a headache, and maybe a good laugh if it turns out to be a huge, expensive turd like Jupiter's Legacy.
 
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Ah yes, another show by the acclaimed writers of Iron Fist.

Exactly what Witcher IP needs.

Fucking christ there are talented people in hollywood still (looking at you, The Boys), why did my most cherished book and game IP had to get these people.

Oh well, hope dies last, maybe first season of Witcher was a fluke, miracle will happen and future seasons and this show will not suck donkey balls while butchering the source.

Well, the biggest problem with Iron Fist wasn't necessarily the writing.

It was the terribad casting (particularly the protagonist) and laughable fight scenes.
 

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wow at some comments here, anyway. For those who wants context about black people Europe. Here is a painting done by a Dutch in 1570 in Portugal
We Portuguese even had black knights, it is documented and such. So we Portuguese do not understand why those comments on forced diversity.

 

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wow at some comments here, anyway. For those who wants context about black people Europe. Here is a painting done by a Dutch in 1570 in Portugal
We Portuguese even had black knights, it is documented and such. So we Portuguese do not understand why those comments on forced diversity.


Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
 
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wow at some comments here, anyway. For those who wants context about black people Europe. Here is a painting done by a Dutch in 1570 in Portugal
We Portuguese even had black knights, it is documented and such. So we Portuguese do not understand why those comments on forced diversity.

Portugal = Poland?

But that's beside the point.
 
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Don’t really care for the actors skin color. But the fact that it’s a woman , given recent trends, strongly suggesting she be a Mary Sue. With man all being either incapable idiots or plain rapists.

last offender being Black Widow. Only two man in the movie are a fat clumsy idiot and the villain.
 

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wow at some comments here, anyway. For those who wants context about black people Europe. Here is a painting done by a Dutch in 1570 in Portugal
We Portuguese even had black knights, it is documented and such. So we Portuguese do not understand why those comments on forced diversity.


This is Portugal, in 1570, almost a hundred years after Columbus ended up in America. Portugal is a seafaring nation, lies right next to Spain, and from the southmost point of Spain, you can see Africa.

That there were black people in Portugal in 1570 is a no brainer. But 1570 wasn't medieval times, it was renaissance, hundreds of years of cultural evolution later. Vastly different. Also, Portugal is far from the northern and eastern countries. There'd be a bigger chance of a chinese trader ending up in Poland through the silk roads, than someone from africa.
 

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wow at some comments here, anyway. For those who wants context about black people Europe. Here is a painting done by a Dutch in 1570 in Portugal
We Portuguese even had black knights, it is documented and such. So we Portuguese do not understand why those comments on forced diversity.


Just pointing that there was diversity in some parts in Europe, people think of UK and USA as the default cultures...

16th century UK wasn't diverse at all, actually it was: different white people groups were conquering it over and over. We are talking about ~middle ages for the witcher and in that time only some parts of Europe were more diverse - like on the picture you posted, bit Portugal was colonial country + close to Africa like Kimahri said.

But this is still based on fantasy, not history and show is made in quite diverse (now) UK so it's inevitable that they will include people of different races.

Main series so far is sticking to the book plot and that's the most important thing, going of rails from the source material is the worst that can happen in tv show/anime (just look at Yakusoku no Neverland s2 and Game of Thrones, what a waste...), people should stop giving much fucks about ethnicity of actors, just focus if they are shit actors or not.
 

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wow at some comments here, anyway. For those who wants context about black people Europe. Here is a painting done by a Dutch in 1570 in Portugal
We Portuguese even had black knights, it is documented and such. So we Portuguese do not understand why those comments on forced diversity.


Get a world map, see where portugal is located.

Then see where poland is located.

Even today, poland has practically no black people. And there are reasons why this is the case. Poland has been poor for a long time and have children enough to feed there markets. Any polish person that could earn money would flee there country in a second. Its very much a 3rd world country. There is absolute no reason for anybody to move to poland and that's the reality of it. However the west that has lots of colonies in country's that have black populations + slave trade + wealthy and import black kids when they can't get kids themselves created far more black people in those country's. And country's located right next to africa will obviously have a bigger black population naturally.

Poland is a relatively homogenous country. With over 38 million inhabitants, it has only 175,000 refugees. Around 5,400 of them are of African origin.

Been to poland many times when i was younger as my dad had a company there in there capital and outside of it, i saw absolute zero black people anywhere.

Netflix is very much dropping forced diversity to feed there US political scene. Anybody searching up paintings or tid bits of a black person in poland is striaght up just trying to push a agenda.

Anyway after the below average first witcher serie, and now without the main actor. i honestly wonder why anybody would give 2 shits still about the witcher.
 
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Really great to see Netflix invest in the Witcher IP. Really looking forward to see how this show ends up, especially with it being set so far in the past compared to the original series.

However, Some of the comments here about "forced diversity" are disgusting.

An all white cast show/film would be unacceptable and pretty offensive, especially a fantasy series set in a fictional world. The world of the Witcher isn't real, so there is no reason why it can't be diverse. People need to get over skin colour and stop being so fragile.
 
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This is Portugal, in 1570, almost a hundred years after Columbus ended up in America. Portugal is a seafaring nation, lies right next to Spain, and from the southmost point of Spain, you can see Africa.

That there were black people in Portugal in 1570 is a no brainer. But 1570 wasn't medieval times, it was renaissance, hundreds of years of cultural evolution later. Vastly different. Also, Portugal is far from the northern and eastern countries. There'd be a bigger chance of a chinese trader ending up in Poland through the silk roads, than someone from africa.
I agree it is not the dark ages period, but then again how tv shows never are historically correct we are just focusing on skin color, on a fantasy world, where things are far from reality.
Get a world map, see where portugal is located.

Then see where poland is located.

Even today, poland has practically no black people. And there are reasons why this is the case. Poland has been poor for a long time and have children enough to feed there markets. Any polish person that could earn money would flee there country in a second. Its very much a 3rd world country. There is absolute no reason for anybody to move to poland and that's the reality of it. However the west that has lots of colonies in country's that have black populations + slave trade + wealthy and import black kids when they can't get kids themselves created far more black people in those country's. And country's located right next to africa will obviously have a bigger black population naturally.



Been to poland many times when i was younger as my dad had a company there in there capital and outside of it, i saw absolute zero black people anywhere.

Netflix is very much dropping forced diversity to feed there US political scene. Anybody searching up paintings or tid bits of a black person in poland is striaght up just trying to push a agenda.

Anyway after the below average first witcher serie, and now without the main actor. i honestly wonder why anybody would give 2 shits still about the witcher.
It’s not about if black people are there or not, it’s about how a fantasy world would be unreal with black people! That’s the issue

Ok I understand the argument of American companies “Americanizing” everything. For those who are so angry about a polish fantasy world not being accurate - I don’t see anyone angry because the actors aren’t polish!
 

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This forum gets annoyed about colour of someone's skin in a fantasy show with magic and shit. And how it's not realistic lol.

I think some white people can't accept they are not majority anymore. Even in my area in the UK lots of ethnic minorities and less white people. White people don't have as many kids in comparison to ethnic minorities so it's only natural ethnic minorities will slowly become the majority. In media and in terms of population. As a ethnic minority myself I don't mind this we have built communities, and not all ethcnic minorities are poor anymore we have become landlords, CEOs, lawyers and etc. We have so many mosques and temples and less churches. I'm loving this.
 

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This forum gets annoyed about colour of someone's skin in a fantasy show with magic and shit. And how it's not realistic lol.

I think some white people can't accept they are not majority anymore. Even in my area in the UK lots of ethnic minorities and less white people. White people don't have as many kids in comparison to ethnic minorities so it's only natural ethnic minorities will slowly become the majority. In media and in terms of population. As a ethnic minority myself I don't mind this we have built communities, and not all ethcnic minorities are poor anymore we have become landlords, CEOs, lawyers and etc. We have so many mosques and temples and less churches. I'm loving this.
When have white people been the majority? The worlds population is about 14% white right now. In 1950 I think it was about 25%. What exactly are you loving? The elimination of white people?
 
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When have white people been the majority? The worlds population is about 14% white right now. In 1950 I think it was about 25%. What exactly are you loving? The elimination of white people?

I'm talking about white people being majority in Hollywood and western countries like US and UK. What I'm loving isn't the elimination of white people. What I'm loving is I have a nice community now, where I have things in common with my neighbours and community. Even work place alot of people if colour are in senior positions and I'm seeing more and more progress in their careers in the UK. I like that there is a mosque nearby etc. I like there are grocery stores, restuarants and butchers that appeals to me. My life has improved dramatically in the UK. Also much more racism when I was younger but now it seems like it's not as much as it used to be as even the schools are full of minorities and your not the only minority there who can get bullied.
 
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I'm talking about white people being majority in Hollywood and western countries like US and UK. What I'm loving isn't the elimination of white people. What I'm loving is I have a nice community now, where I have things in common with my neighbours and community. Even work place alot of people if colour are in senior positions and I'm seeing more and more progress in their careers in the UK. I like that there is a mosque nearby etc. I like there are grocery stores, restuarants and butchers that appeals to me. My life has improved dramatically in the UK. Also much more racism when I was younger but now it seems like it's not as much as it used to be as even the schools are full of minorities and your not the only minority there who can get bullied.
Why not just live in a country with people just like you instead of demanding that everything around you change?
 

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This forum gets annoyed about colour of someone's skin in a fantasy show with magic and shit. And how it's not realistic lol.

I think some white people can't accept they are not majority anymore. Even in my area in the UK lots of ethnic minorities and less white people. White people don't have as many kids in comparison to ethnic minorities so it's only natural ethnic minorities will slowly become the majority. In media and in terms of population. As a ethnic minority myself I don't mind this we have built communities, and not all ethcnic minorities are poor anymore we have become landlords, CEOs, lawyers and etc. We have so many mosques and temples and less churches. I'm loving this.

Cultural respect and diversity are fine things, but licking your chomps at terraforming other cultures makes you lesser then.

The tolerant give way to the intolerant.

Sheesh.
 

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Why not just live in a country with people just like you instead of demanding that everything around you change?

No I love the UK. Obviously there is corruption but the corruption in my ancestors country is on another level. Also I don't like hot weather.

And I have not demanded everything to change everything just changed naturally I just said I like it. Can you show me where I demanded change?

I think it's only natural ethnic minorities are succeeding in the middle class range of people. Alot of ethnic minorities are more living to live together this saving money. Ethnic minorities don't have a drinking culture whih alot of British spend a ton of money on which means less savings. Ethnic minorities have vacations in their ancestors countries which is much cheaper and usually they have somewhere free to stay in comparison to British people who spend their money on expensive holidays. This saving money on housing, less expensive hobbies has created a disparity in my area where alot of ethnic minorities are doing great financially. Financial stability also means more kids etc so that could be a answe to why we are getting more ethc ic minorities, not just from immigration but birth rates.
 
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For a sec I thought this was the anime show coming in August, forgot this was also a thing. Wasn't Jason Momoa involved with this at some point?
 

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This forum gets annoyed about colour of someone's skin in a fantasy show with magic and shit. And how it's not realistic lol.

I think some white people can't accept they are not majority anymore. Even in my area in the UK lots of ethnic minorities and less white people. White people don't have as many kids in comparison to ethnic minorities so it's only natural ethnic minorities will slowly become the majority. In media and in terms of population. As a ethnic minority myself I don't mind this we have built communities, and not all ethcnic minorities are poor anymore we have become landlords, CEOs, lawyers and etc. We have so many mosques and temples and less churches. I'm loving this.

I'm not white and I think this movement is nonsense, don't group me into your bs just because I am also not white. Not into racial confrontation shit.

On topic, it's kind of sad that The Witcher isn't getting any respect as an IP, it was already ruined by taking away Triss Merigold in the first series. Can't someone else get the IP and do it justice?
 
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This forum gets annoyed about colour of someone's skin in a fantasy show with magic and shit. And how it's not realistic lol.

I think some white people can't accept they are not majority anymore. Even in my area in the UK lots of ethnic minorities and less white people. White people don't have as many kids in comparison to ethnic minorities so it's only natural ethnic minorities will slowly become the majority. In media and in terms of population. As a ethnic minority myself I don't mind this we have built communities, and not all ethcnic minorities are poor anymore we have become landlords, CEOs, lawyers and etc. We have so many mosques and temples and less churches. I'm loving this.

As a POC, I cant stand any white person thinking they can argue for my skin color and why we "JUST NEED TO BE GIVEN A ROLE YOU RACISTS wah wah wah".

So to caucasians trying to use "bu bu bu POC" as an excuse to justify this shitty casting and a spitting and dismantling on the lore of the The Witcher, kindly go fly a kite.

Respect the fucking material, and for the love of God, can we please not try to revise history by inserting coloured people in places in time where it was the least most likely to exist.

If you guys wanna flip the script by trying to "defend POC" by using us and our skin color as a shield to guard yourself from criticism to your shitty perspective and opinion, that's on you.

But I personally think its fucking racist to keep referencing POC's as your shield wall for an argument that can be easily dismantled if you put race and this white guilt mentality out of the equation.
 
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Oh no.
This is what I call a forced diversity and as an European it pisses me off.

Luckily Peter Jackson did LotR trilogy before all of this nonsense.

This pisses me off immensely. The Witcher books and games depict a semi-Medieval fantasy world that's based on Eastern-European Slavic myths and folklore, its countries and peoples are amalgams of West, East and North Europe. When you start making the internal consistency and believability of that fantasy world subservient to the need to show off diverse casting, that world immediately becomes fake. It's an immense contrast to Game of Thrones where the producers obviously created a fantasy world that felt real, because they didn't allow anachronistic elements. In GoT the various countries and peoples of Westeros world where ethnically consistent so at no time was the illusion of verisimilitude disturbed, but The Witcher TV series didn't every try: medieval characters speaking and acting like 21st century people, a troubadour singing modern songs, cities and villages inhabited by people whose ethnicities are from all over the globe (Europe, Middle East, India, Asia, Africa), black wood elves ... the list goes on and on. The whole thing just set my teeth on edge. I only lasted 2 episodes.

I had been looking forward to The Witcher but it was nothing but cheap, badly made Netflix trash.
 
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Would have preferred if they took all this money and invested it into improving the production values of the main show
 
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This forum gets annoyed about colour of someone's skin in a fantasy show with magic and shit. And how it's not realistic lol.

I think some white people can't accept they are not majority anymore. Even in my area in the UK lots of ethnic minorities and less white people. White people don't have as many kids in comparison to ethnic minorities so it's only natural ethnic minorities will slowly become the majority. In media and in terms of population. As a ethnic minority myself I don't mind this we have built communities, and not all ethcnic minorities are poor anymore we have become landlords, CEOs, lawyers and etc. We have so many mosques and temples and less churches. I'm loving this.

I can't believe you all see race! It's only natural that white people are losing.

No I love the UK. Obviously there is corruption but the corruption in my ancestors country is on another level. Also I don't like hot weather.

And I have not demanded everything to change everything just changed naturally I just said I like it. Can you show me where I demanded change?

I think it's only natural ethnic minorities are succeeding in the middle class range of people. Alot of ethnic minorities are more living to live together this saving money. Ethnic minorities don't have a drinking culture whih alot of British spend a ton of money on which means less savings. Ethnic minorities have vacations in their ancestors countries which is much cheaper and usually they have somewhere free to stay in comparison to British people who spend their money on expensive holidays. This saving money on housing, less expensive hobbies has created a disparity in my area where alot of ethnic minorities are doing great financially. Financial stability also means more kids etc so that could be a answe to why we are getting more ethc ic minorities, not just from immigration but birth rates.

Let me shit on the white British population some more!

Progress!
 
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Really great to see Netflix invest in the Witcher IP. Really looking forward to see how this show ends up, especially with it being set so far in the past compared to the original series.

However, Some of the comments here about "forced diversity" are disgusting.

An all white cast show/film would be unacceptable and pretty offensive, especially a fantasy series set in a fictional world. The world of the Witcher isn't real, so there is no reason why it can't be diverse. People need to get over skin colour and stop being so fragile.

Why are they disgusting? What makes it disgusting? You know people would flip their shit if an Asian fantasy or Middle Eastern fantasy, for example, prominently featured white people. It would be called whitewashing. We've seen it happen time and time again. Remember Ghost in the Shell? If this is disgusting, then that outrage was disgusting.

Personally, if the show ends up being good I'll give it a watch, but this casting certainly makes me suspicious of their intent.
 

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Im sorry, but having different people with ancestrality coming from the same place is off-putting. Im sorry you guys don't think about it, but i do. There must be a logical explanation within the fictional world as to why on the same region exists people with different ethnicity, and The Witcher series doesn't explain this at all.
 

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Really great to see Netflix invest in the Witcher IP. Really looking forward to see how this show ends up, especially with it being set so far in the past compared to the original series.

However, Some of the comments here about "forced diversity" are disgusting.

An all white cast show/film would be unacceptable and pretty offensive, especially a fantasy series set in a fictional world. The world of the Witcher isn't real, so there is no reason why it can't be diverse. People need to get over skin colour and stop being so fragile.

LotR and GoT would never hare become global phenomena if they hadn't been so faithful to the source material and that meant an all-white cast. That's how the books described these characters and the show runners made sure that the casting reflected the authors' (and the fans') wishes. Just imagine how Netflix would fuck over a tv series based on the books with a modernized genderblind/colorblind, recasting of LotR with a black Gandalf, a few gender and race swapped members of the Fellowship of the Ring and an all-female version of the Riders of Rohan. The bad guys (Denethor , Saruman, the Nazgul, Gollum, etc) would remain white of course.
 
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Get a world map, see where portugal is located.

Then see where poland is located.

Even today, poland has practically no black people. And there are reasons why this is the case. Poland has been poor for a long time and have children enough to feed there markets. Any polish person that could earn money would flee there country in a second. Its very much a 3rd world country. There is absolute no reason for anybody to move to poland and that's the reality of it. However the west that has lots of colonies in country's that have black populations + slave trade + wealthy and import black kids when they can't get kids themselves created far more black people in those country's. And country's located right next to africa will obviously have a bigger black population naturally.



Been to poland many times when i was younger as my dad had a company there in there capital and outside of it, i saw absolute zero black people anywhere.

Netflix is very much dropping forced diversity to feed there US political scene. Anybody searching up paintings or tid bits of a black person in poland is striaght up just trying to push a agenda.

Anyway after the below average first witcher serie, and now without the main actor. i honestly wonder why anybody would give 2 shits still about the witcher.
Cause Poland is fucking racist.

/Signed by someone born and having spent lots of time in poland.
 
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