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Naughty Dog Vs. Insomniac Games, who is the premier Sony developer?

Who is the boss?

  • Naughty Dog, obviously

    Votes: 203 37.0%
  • Obviously Insomniac Games

    Votes: 203 37.0%
  • I lean Naughty Dog, slightly

    Votes: 84 15.3%
  • Insomniac Games by an inch

    Votes: 58 10.6%

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Banjo64

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C'mon, it's ND. Ya'll are delusional if you say otherwise. Insomniac has not had the critical acclaim like ND in awhile. They've matched their success with Spiderman but they've have not done it with Ratchet and Clank.
Looks fine to me.
 

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Naughty Dog delivered Uncharted 1,2,3 + TLOU on the Playstation 3 and then TLOU Remastered, Uncharted 4, Uncharted TLL and TLOU2 on the Playstation 4.

Given how ambitious those games are it is a miracle we got so many on the PS4, especially when we compare it to the amount of games other studios release.

It is not even close.
 

Airbus Jr

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C'mon, it's ND. Ya'll are delusional if you say otherwise. Insomniac has not had the critical acclaim like ND in awhile. They've matched their success with Spiderman but they've have not done it with Ratchet and Clank.
You mean not yet
 
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Banjo64

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When sorted by user score ND’s PS4 offerings suddenly begin to look very middling in comparison to their PS1/2/works.

 

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For me insomniac, ive still got to play uncharted 4,but dont find myself rushing out to play it, but refuse to play last of us 2 even if it was free, but cant think of a insomniac game i haven't played and not enjoyed and not platinum’d , although did really enjoy miles morales even though i personally feel there was no need for the blm bit or the meeting a girl for her to say oh this is my girlfriend etc , but really looking forward to new ratchet game and cant wait for next spider man game with either spiderman, miles or even gwen stacey in, where at the min i cant say i cant wait to play ________ from naughty dog
 
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fart town usa

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Insomniac.

Nothing against ND, just grew tired of their games. I would give ND an edge when it comes to online multiplayer though.
 

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lmao

"fun".... Any dev can make a "fun" game. Are you 6? Why is "fun" the only standard?

Naughty Dog games move the entire medium forward, and raise the motherfucking bar for AAA gaming EVERY time. They are constantly raising the bar.

"fun".... smh :messenger_poop:
Good for them. Unfortunately I find their games boring as fuck.
 
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At the moment ND with SantaMonica/Insomiac/Gurilla Games in a close and shared 2nd place.
 

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All of ND modern games are 3rd person cinematic games with ledge grabbing and they are all boring and a chore to play
 

Punished Miku

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I don't like Naughty Dog games at all for the most part. Only one I've ever purchased in my entire life is Uncharted 4. I got The Last of Us 1 and returned it within 5 hours. I got Uncharted Collection for free. I never played Jak and Daxter.

They're obviously talented, but I pretty much hate most of their games. I'd put Insomniac and Sucker Punch both above them easily. I typically haven't been that into God of War either, but the last one is one of the best games of the generation. Hope Santa Monica continues output like that.
 

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ND no contest. Their Storytelling and character building is much more nuanced and deep. Insomniac Games are very "mainstream" and a bit generic, not that this is bad, but it's just not on par with ND.
 
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Represent.

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good to see the poll results make sense now.

If Insomniac won this shit Im not sure I could take user impressions seriously anymore :messenger_poop:
 
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Insomniac actually makes good games... Naughty dog used to make OK games up until the PS3 released and then became wannabe hollywood directors.

Spyro > Crash (BY A FUCKING MILE)
Ratchet > Jak (also by a large margine)
Resistance, Sunset Overdrive, Spider-Man > anything Naughty Crap did since Jak
Bot taste.
 

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I'm an oldschool Naughty Dog head so I still love them even though Druckman ruined TLOU2. Uncharted 1 through 3 will always beat every other game for me.

Insomniac got my suck off with Spiderman until they ruined their own game by making Peter look like a Tom Holland rip off.

But these days, Sucker Punch has both of them beat with host of Tsushima.
 

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If we are looking at the last 5 years, it's Insomniac by a mile. They seem to be the most efficient dev team out there delivering consistent high quality at a good clip.
 

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Love them both, but Ratchet alone is enough for me to decide. Engaging on many levels imho and just one of the most fun, long-running franchises to ever grace the medium.

I'll take Insomniac.
 

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They only Insomniac games Ive really liked is the Resistance series. Not a fan of Ratchet or Spider-Man. Naughty Dog has dropped GOTY winners with each release.
 
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Profit wise- Naughtydog
Awards wise- NaughtyD
Influence wise- naughty
graphics wise- naughty
gameplay wise- insomniac
best ip- naughty
spyro or crash- naughty
less likely to trigger neosofts- insomniac
automatic buy games- naughty

Insomniac has a bad track record without sony. They have made alot of horrible games. Not even all Ratchet games are really that good. The most recent remake isnt even better than the original. The random uncredited environment art designer that wrote the orginal was funnier than T.J. Fixman, Kevin Munroe, and Gerry Swallow. Their biggest success came from a licensed ip. How you pick insomniac idk.

Now if they made Ratchet open world...
Profit wise has definitely flipped in insomniac favour since spiderman 2018. Miles Morales has already outsold last of us 2 on npd
 

Represent.

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You mean not yet
Youre voting for them based on an assumption? Naughty Dog has God tier for over a decade.

Nobody cheers at E3 when the Insomniac logo shows up.

Profit wise has definitely flipped in insomniac favour since spiderman 2018. Miles Morales has already outsold last of us 2 on npd
Ok but are you really gonna count SPIDERMAN as an INSOMNIAC ip?

Compare their own original IPs to naughty dogs and its not even close.
 
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Does anyone feel like ND's games have inflated ratings? I am in no way saying their games are bad, I'm just saying that games media and the general public probably give them slightly higher ratings because of the Naughty Dog name.

In saying that, I personally like the games that ND makes and have not enjoyed the recent output from Insomniac. Really pretty games from Insomniac, no doubt, but the actual gameplay is kinda boring.

In terms of Impact to Playstation, I think early this gen is dominated by Insomniac.
Yes since uncharted 2 I think all their games have have had 92+ on metacritic (accept lost legacy but that was a glorified dlc).

I agree with you their games are good but over hyped by the media. Accept last of us 1 that's an all time classic maybe uncharted 2 as well.

They are definitely the least innovative out of sonys big 5 publishers. A big bugbear of mine is their lack of enemy variety. We have fought dudes with guns for 5 games now and zombies for 2😂

Hey guerilla how many enemies in that horizon game?

Guerilla. We have over 20 unique incredible complex dinobots you can take down in multiple ways

Good job guerilla hey naughty dog what new enemies have you added to the last of us part 2

Naughty dog. We have added a pseudo bloater and a dog that follows your scent.

..... Get the fuck back to the drawing board Naughty dog!!
 
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Youre voting for them based on an assumption? Naughty Dog has God tier for over a decade.

Nobody cheers at E3 when the Insomniac logo shows up.


Ok but are you really gonna count SPIDERMAN as an INSOMNIAC ip?

Compare their own original IPs to naughty dogs and its not even close.
No but I am gonna give insomniac credit for making it a sales monster.

Activision had spiderman for years and did nothing with it. People take spidermans success for granted now but this is the first time its become successful as a videogame

Insomniac banged it out in 3 years. I don't think naughty dog would have been able to do that.

Other than spiderman yes naughty dog have been more profitable that could change now though.
 
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I would have picked Naughty Dogs, but I think, their best days are passed when the writer for the Uncharted left. It feels like all their eggs are in one basket which had quite a controversy. Once they prove again that they're more than Last of Us studio, I'll switch. For now, Insomniac is more stable and dependable, I think.
 
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Profit wise has definitely flipped in insomniac favour since spiderman 2018. Miles Morales has already outsold last of us 2 on npd
That game makes 33% less. It most definitely hasnt flipped. Because Sony pays Disney a percentage of those profits. They have zero owership of the gaming rights of spiderman. Disney probably threatened Sony with the gaming rights to get more movie profits. Plus Naughty has been making system seller after system seller. Insomniac was cheap for a reason. They are mechanically sound, but dont produce any orginal ip gangbusters.
 

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During the PS3 days Naughty Dawg. They home to the new "Ice Team" and could fully utilize The Cell CPU SPUs.
Today I lean Insomniac but its too soon, Naughty Dawg aren't even close to releasing an Exclusive game for PS5. N.D. are still home to the ICE Team, but N.D. has a problem with employee turnover and Crunch by my understanding.
Insomniac development processes are waaaayyy less stressful than N.D. Insomniac even won some awards for best place to work, a huge achievement considering difficulty of Game development.
 
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Honestly, I can't pick. I love The Last Of Us and Crash 3, but A Crack in Time is also an all-time favorite and Insomniac gave us the best Spider-Man.

I still remember the Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 hype on GAF, those were some amazing times. I got excited about stupid shit like triple buffering and "Hollywood physics engines" with Uncharted 2. Around the same time Insomniac was putting impressive water physics into Resistance 2 and A Crack in Time. Power of the CELL! A shame that last gen CPU's were underpowered.
 
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That game makes 33% less. It most definitely hasnt flipped. Because Sony pays Disney a percentage of those profits. They have zero owership of the gaming rights of spiderman. Disney probably threatened Sony with the gaming rights to get more movie profits. Plus Naughty has been making system seller after system seller. Insomniac was cheap for a reason. They are mechanically sound, but dont produce any orginal ip gangbusters.
What do you mean by 33% less? The cut that goes to disney or Morales being a cheaper game?
 

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My GOTY contenders from both companies.

Insomniac:
Spiderman
Resistance 3
Miles

ND:
TLOU
Uncharted 2
TLOU2
Lost Legacy
Uncharted Drake's Fortune

ND wins. Fatality.

Insomniac needs to keep doing what they are doing though.
 
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What do you mean by 33% less? The cut that goes to disney or Morales being a cheaper game?
Last Of Us 2 60$. Morales 40$. Any merchandise made for Spiderman goes straight to Disney. All merchandise of TloU all for daddy Sony. Disney also gets a percentage of Spiderman games’ profit. Also a risk of Disney forcing Sony to publish the game on Xbox or they take away the license.
 
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Last Of Us 2 60$. Morales 40$. Any merchandise made for Spiderman goes straight to Disney. All merchandise of TloU all for daddy Sony. Disney also gets a percentage of Spiderman games’ profit. Also a risk of Disney forcing Sony to publish the game on Xbox or they take away the license.
Ok but npd is revenue based so Miles Morales has still generated more. Maybe with the cuts going to Disney it's closer but do we have any data on that? I'am not aware of any happy to be presented some
 

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Insomniac have the better output and release very high-quality games, but it’s a bigger deal when Naughty Dog releases a game imo.
 
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Another aspect where ND missed the ball in this gen, is that they create 0 iconic character that i personally like. Expect Raph in instance.

In PS1 era, there was Crash, Coco, Cortex, and all the other characters of Crash series have their charm (that was highlight mostly in CTR even more) , just with one franchise they created so many lovable characters.

In PS2 Era, Jax and Dexter were cool.

In PS3 Era, Nathan, Victor Goddamn Sullivan, Elena, Chloe, and also other iconic boss characters like Eddy or Salazar. And then the super iconic Joel and Ellie, and even secondary characters like Tess was super likable, and Bill was cool as a character, and cie.

In PS4 it was quite weak in comparison, i actually liked Raph and he's one of the most interesting villain in uncharated franchise, i though Sam was Ok, but a lot of new characters they created in this gen were whatever, Nadine was so uninteresting, and in the last of us 2 every new character introduced were pretty much forgettable.

To me ND PS3 era and ND PS4 era is like Day and Night.
 
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I have bought more Naughty Dog games so I will go with Naughty Dog. Insomniac is close
 

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It's Naughty Dog. All heads turn when they release a big game. The level of quality on display is only rivaled by Rockstar, obsessed with perfection almost to a fault. And they're the ones responsible for motivating Sony's first parties into improving their storytelling across the board.

Insomniac are kinda like Marvel movies imo, somewhat soulless, but well made fun. Play. Enjoy. Forget. Insomniac are still waiting for that one wow game that can really put them up there in the top top echelon. Right now they're hovering that B+ to A tier.
 
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ND can learn how to manage multiple projects and releasing them in regular intervals from insomniac. miles released last year and now ratchet is releasing .. god know when we'll get the factions and now they are remastering tlou. ND should do more games like the lost legacy - 2 years max for a project while druckman drools over the next big ND project!
 
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Spyro and Ratchet & Clank are my favorites from Insomniac.

But i like Uncharted more than R&C so i think i prefer ND.
 
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Insomniac by a fucking mile.

Naughty Dog have only two good games. Crash Bandicoot + The Last of Us and i mean just the first games not the series as a whole. Jak & Daxter was trash and Uncharted is just a Tomb Raider rip off. The only good game Naughty Dog have put out since 1999 is The Last of Us but they blew it with the sequel. I was hyped for it and once it came out it made me not want to play the first game again (and I loved that) and killed any interested in future games.

Insomniac have Spyro, Ratchet, Resistance, and Spiderman. Resistance was fun. Ratchet are good games. I ain't the biggest Spiderman fan but they are good games. Spyro was the shit on PS1.
 
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Both Studios are really really great, I am just bitter that The last of us 2 hasn't gotten any PS5 update patch, except if they are cooking something really special and not just incremental upgrades this is really sad considering it's Sony's "flagship" title.