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Rumor Game Dev Naughty Dog Rumored to Be Developing New IP

JoeBudden

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So nothing from you as I thought.

I see your boyfriend following every post you posted in this thread with likes, that's what I see.

Yawn

there was nothing from you either, but look at you throwing shade now after getting called out on your bullshit lmao.

im sure you're familiar with what we call the type of people who throw shade and play victim when called out.
 
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It's people in the industry that now feel pressured and have gone all in on making sure they have some sort of report with specific marginalized groups. Before social media we still had movies with black leads, black superheroes, and black video game characters.
Nobody is feeling pressured into telling a story they don't want to tell. It is a bullshit narrative. People are asking to be represented and some creators are answering the call by making an effort to represent more people. Representation matters.

Not all are written/designed equal, but as better writing, better designers. Kratos was literally made in 2005 pre- all this social media outrage, and internet witch hunting. Guess what he was of color, before her became ghost of sparta. We've had black assissins, native American assassins, all before the twitter explosion of people yelling they feel forgotten.
The entire point of this place is to talk games, entertainment, and we should be able to talk about those shows/games as they are without making it political. Twitter is not a real place, this place is just a forum. If you want to elicit change, start at your local government, go to city hall meeting, become a member of city council where you live which anyone can run for.
You cannot separate media from politics. Games tell stories of war and conflict and politics is inherently part of it. Social media became massive because of the democratization of smartphones. All these things were part of the social discussion, social media did bring it to our collective consciousness because the device is literally in your pocket. You can reach more people just by pulling your phone out of your pocket than holding a megaphone in the parking lot of your local grocery store. Everything we are talking about today has always been talked about from the very beginning.

Change doesn't start behind a keyboard or an app.
And thats why we should be able to talk video games, we are here to talk about things we like to lose ourselves with, and not have to think about all the bad shit going on outside. Why do you consume media/entertainment/video games? it's to escape mentally, or enjoy a story that takes your mind off of the real world for however long.
On one hand, you say social media forced and put pressure on developers to change their story and on another hand, you say change does not come from a keyboard or an app. Social media allows us to reach millions of people, lots of great social movements have started due to the proliferation of social media. You want people to come together for a protest, you post it on social media. If you want to escape the real world there are games you can play and media you can consume to do that. One does not take away from the other. Though quintessentially, there is no story that is not based on real-world experience so you are not escaping real life, just being engaged by human stories told through otherworldly art.

The are meant as escapes, and to tell stories anyone can enjoy and connect with. thats what makes a great movie, game, ect. The moment you try to instruct the viewer and beat them over the head with your message for the same of it, is when you get reactions like we see.
That is not a new phenomenon. We are very diverse and enjoy different things. You are consuming what other people create, you might not always agree with the creator.

Where do Final Fantasy characters pull from? usually mythical creatures, mythical gods ect. The only human part is the story was told at somepoint to someone who thought it would make a great game or had an idea of that to make a fantasy game with similar lore. Fantasy comes from telling stories through the ages, but making a game about creatures, rarely is it connected to humans past. Maybe they intertwine human sensibilities to the fictional creature, but other than that its of the lines of a fairy tale.
All human stories told through otherworldly art. Final Fantasy has themes of war, religion, demons, conflict.
 

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you're here for attention.

that's why you're typing up paragraphs of bullshit to complete strangers online, and why you're replying to me when I wasn't even replying to you. I don't even know what 'first post' you're talking about.

Literally the first page is everyone excited about naughty Dog's new IP. Including me. There were a couple people that said some choice things, I said im playing it regardless because they make quality stuff. i think I jumped into the conversation that you and Tripolygon were having is people are literally getting roped into racists when most of us can be seen on the first page of a thread called:

Naughty Dog Rumored to Be Developing New IP​


People said some choice things because of Naughty Dog's last game and mainly their response to people who straight up didn't like Last of us part 2's direction. I didn't mind the game I played it all the way through but it was one of the most depressing games i've ever played. And I think criticism is right to call out pacing issues, among how Joel even Abby were treated.

But my main point was outside of people complaining about ND being woke most of us are talking about being excited about a new IP. You literally instead of replying pulled a triggered reaction on my reponse, and Im mainly responding because this whole thread was not about Minority representation. The only thing about that was in a tweet that's posted in the OP about the lead character. ANd honestly I didn't hear anyone saying anything racist about what the new character is, just that most of us dont care as long as the game/story/characters are good.

Everyone on there basically including me thinks Lost legacy is the better game, and I love Chloe and Nadine's story and want more Nadine. It's people like you and Tripolygon who are going over this thread with a racist brush when its really one or two people who said some dumb choice shit.
 

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Literally the first page is everyone excited about naughty Dog's new IP. Including me. There were a couple people that said some choice things, I said im playing it regardless because they make quality stuff. i think I jumped into the conversation that you and Tripolygon were having is people are literally getting roped into racists when most of us can be seen on the first page of a thread called:

Naughty Dog Rumored to Be Developing New IP​


People said some choice things because of Naughty Dog's last game and mainly their response to people who straight up didn't like Last of us part 2's direction. I didn't mind the game I played it all the way through but it was one of the most depressing games i've ever played. And I think criticism is right to call out pacing issues, among how Joel even Abby were treated.

But my main point was outside of people complaining about ND being woke most of us are talking about being excited about a new IP. You literally instead of replying pulled a triggered reaction on my reponse, and Im mainly responding because this whole thread was not about Minority representation. The only thing about that was in a tweet that's posted in the OP about the lead character. ANd honestly I didn't hear anyone saying anything racist about what the new character is, just that most of us dont care as long as the game/story/characters are good.

Everyone on there basically including me thinks Lost legacy is the better game, and I love Chloe and Nadine's story and want more Nadine. It's people like you and Tripolygon who are going over this thread with a racist brush when its really one or two people who said some dumb choice shit.

i hope you typed all that up for someone else cause I'm not reading all that
 
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You tried accusing me of gaslighting.
That shows you don't have a clue wtf you are talking about and therefore haven't said shit.
You're still doing it now. Tell us why you are so bothered? You're the only one not answering which means this shit hits your soul. Also victim doesn't suit you well so lets not start with that either.
 
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You can't read or is this apart of the ignorance I pointed out earlier?

What haven't I answered?
I can read just as well as you can so I don't feel the need to hold a bitch's hand to several questions that have been quoted to them. You got the notifications bub. Hit that bell in the right corner and start answering.
 
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It would be great if it was just a black lead character but with ND's track record, the character will have a furry love interest and "They" pronouns by the end of the game. Cautious about this one.
 

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You completely missed my point.

The only people pointing this out and are bothered by this are racists. Things only get better when people become self-aware of their own deep rooted racism.

Not only is this rumor not coming from ND, you guys don't even know if this character is a token to serve political intentions, and yet you guys are STILL triggered and upset.
Hammer hit the fucking head.
 
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I can read just as well as you can so I don't feel the need to hold a bitch's hand to several questions that have been quoted to them. You got the notifications bub. Hit that bell in the right corner and start answering.
I answered and asked questions(which I got no answers)
If you got a question ask.
 

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You asked for further explanation, I gave you two sources of material to read from and without having read it you call it pseudoscience. Having a look at the African slave trade, Asian slave trade, etc does not change what Trans Atlantic slave trade was a very different brutal institution created specifically for the enslavement of the African people. Skin color was used specifically as a descriptor of how resilient African slave was to the conditions they were subjected to. I don't know what legit sources you speak of that rejects these known facts.
Those papers are laughed at in science circles because they draw vast conclusions and tie them to white people and black people in today's society. While most white and black people today have nothing to do with this. It's blame science and it's frowned upon.

The muslim slave trade is the catalyst to the american slave trade and was the largest most brutal slave trade in history, and is the direct cause of all the muslim-african wars and was the slave trade the americans inherited, the muslim-african slave trade was based on skin color too. The black slaves were executed when they reached a certain age and that history has almost vanished from today's world. American black muslims are the greatest and sickest irony in the world today. I am fully aware that the slave trade was insane and brutal behind measures, but you can't push those historical facts on modern society, no other historical injustice is used in this manner to attack the people of today. Most slave trades weren't written down and documented like the transatlantic one, but they existed worldwide, and most peoples have been subjugated to it in various forms.
 

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waiting for EA to introduce the first shemale character.
As a black person , i truly don't care for the color of the main character. If the story is good, idgaf
 
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Why is it a problem if it is mentioned? If ND never had a main black lead character in game before, it's okay that it's pointed out. I'd personally have a problem if this then became the main marketing for the game (which it won't). But also......this isn't ND talking it's a guy on Twitter shooting us a rumor.
Neckbeards would complain if they mentioned the character is asian, hispanic, arab, etc. :messenger_loudly_crying::messenger_loudly_crying::messenger_loudly_crying::messenger_loudly_crying:
Wow some of my favorite characters of all time are not only black, but other races too wow
No let me be offended
I don't care if the main character is a inner circle sexual with 20 races
Give me quality
 
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And I will continue to ignore their games since they only produce crap since the PS3 launched
Episode 2 Whatever GIF
 

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when it should be natural, the story you want to tell may lend itself to a certain race or lead
Not really.
While there's no specific rule for how to do this - writing often starts by working backward from a character, concept, place etc. Some of the most well recognized / critically acclaimed pieces of written prose have been done that way. One in particular is famous for the first line written literally just stating the character's race.
 

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Ahhh the old Racism wouldn't exist if folks didn't talk about it argument. Thankfully folks see through such foolishness and pushed for progress. Anywho....

Mods please close this thread.
Snowflakes are in an uproar over a rumor. (Ironically a rumor we've known for a long time now)
 
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Ahhh the old Racism wouldn't exist if folks didn't talk about it argument. Thankfully folks see through such foolishness and pushed for progress. Anywho....

Mods please close this thread.
Snowflakes are in an uproar over a rumor. (Ironically a rumor we've know for a long time now)

not really. Couple jackass’s made it about race. The first page is full of dumb troll responses to naughty dog, others are people excited for new IP by them regardless who the lead is.
 
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You Americans really are hung up about race, I couldn't give two fucks who they choose to be a main character, I doubt they simply pandered, this is ND for crying out loud, they've got a fucking story to tell and have chosen the best fit character to tell that story and it happens to be a POC, i for one cannot wait to see what these guys are doing.. i wonder what in the hell it could be tbh
 
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2 post (now 3) = Entire Thread?
I'm baiting people?

Seriously Mods close the thread.

You are not a mod, why would they? Most of us that are excited for what Naughty Dog are cooking up are here. We've said our peace within the first page of this thread. I literally said my peace that I knew of the IP in question and thats concept wise has been in the works for sometime. I and many others are huge fans of whatever they make. Even with its issues Last of us part 2 has some of the best shooting, AI, and animation/Mo-cap seen in a video game. So to see them not tethered to PS4 hardware, and seeing them use what I've heard is new "equipment" for their new "projects" has me and many excited. The tweet gave some insight on that the main character would be of color. Which no one has issue with and actually depending on if they hire a known actor could be exciting as in with second tweet of them being inspired by films like Moonlight which is a awesome film.

It's a few in this thread that took action because a couple of people in bad faith said some choice things on their overall opinion on naughty dog as a studio, and with what a lot of industry people are doing narratively. The majority dont give 2 shits if its a woman, man, black, hispanic ect. I just want a great game with a good story, atmosphere ect.

And when it comes to that Naughty dog delivers.

It;'s a select few in this thread including yourself hung up that everyone here has issues with race in games.
 
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This would be a GREAT thing! Moonlight is a great movie.
Careful now, can you say that here?

/s

I loved the film as well. What even is this thread. No game or characters have been announced and it’s already turned in to a shitshow.

no wonder developers don’t want to even be involved in the community anymore. I agree that REEeeEe is totally insane at times, the odd time I check over there, but it’s becoming just as silly here. You can’t have any diversity or you’re labelled as “woke”.
 

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You are not a mod, why would they? Most of us that are excited for what Naughty Dog are cooking up are here. We've said our peace within the first page of this thread. I literally said my peace that I knew of the IP in question and thats concept wise has been in the works for sometime. I and many others are huge fans of whatever they make. Even with its issues Last of us part 2 has some of the best shooting, AI, and animation/Mo-cap seen in a video game. So to see them not tethered to PS4 hardware, and seeing them use what I've heard is new "equipment" for their new "projects" has me and many excited. The tweet gave some insight on that the main character would be of color. Which no one has issue with and actually depending on if they hire a known actor could be exciting as in with second tweet of them being inspired by films like Moonlight which is a awesome film.

It's a few in this thread that took action because a couple of people in bad faith said some choice things on their overall opinion on naughty dog as a studio, and with what a lot of industry people are doing narratively. The majority dont give 2 shits if its a woman, man, black, hispanic ect. I just want a great game with a good story, atmosphere ect.

And when it comes to that Naughty dog delivers.

It;'s a select few in this thread including yourself hung up that everyone here has issues with race in games.
Most of this post I dont disagree with. But the last bit as far as me being hung up on race in games is just you projecting your own narrative.

Later.
 
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Most of this post I dont disagree with. But the last bit as far as me being hung up on race in games is just you projecting your own narrative.

Later.

Go look at your previous response:

Ahhh the old Racism wouldn't exist if folks didn't talk about it argument. Thankfully folks see through such foolishness and pushed for progress. Anywho....

Mods please close this thread.
Snowflakes are in an uproar over a rumor. (Ironically a rumor we've known for a long time now)


And then asking for mods to close this thread? Because people dont agree with this thread being about race and about just the game regardless who plays in game. This thread was just a leak about what the next project is about and who the lead might be. Others came in there and made it about something else.
 
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If there is a guy creating a new IP for Naughty Dog... its Shaun Escayg, not Neil Druckmann.

Escayg was creative director of Uncharted The Lost Legacy.

He's current creative director on an unannounced game at ND.


Amy Hennig created Uncharted (with Richard Lemarchand.)

Neil Druckmann created The Last of Us (with Bruce Straley.)

Shaun Escayg will create a new IP (with Kurt Margenau / Anthony Newman.)


 
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Careful now, can you say that here?

/s

I loved the film as well. What even is this thread. No game or characters have been announced and it’s already turned in to a shitshow.

no wonder developers don’t want to even be involved in the community anymore. I agree that REEeeEe is totally insane at times, the odd time I check over there, but it’s becoming just as silly here. You can’t have any diversity or you’re labelled as “woke”.
Exactly. Which I call Snowflaking. Its Ridiculous.
 

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Go look at your previous response:




And then asking for mods to close this thread? Because people dont agree with this thread being about race and about just the game regardless who plays in game. This thread was just a leak about what the next project is about and who the lead might be. Others came in there and made it about something else.
Your missing context. Look at my first post in this thread with what I was responding to. The Post you cited was me reading through the thread.

Edit: correction post #190
 
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This was reported by a movie insider with a near-perfect track record back in 2018 actually, that's when I first heard of it.



Then there was a Reddit leak in 2019 showing that the codename for this project was "Stray's Cross." Apparently it's a first-person action-adventure game with steampunk elements.


 

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You Americans really are hung up about race, I couldn't give two fucks who they choose to be a main character, I doubt they simply pandered, this is ND for crying out loud, they've got a fucking story to tell and have chosen the best fit character to tell that story and it happens to be a POC, i for one cannot wait to see what these guys are doing.. i wonder what in the hell it could be tbh

America was built on racism since 1619 and it never has stopped. So it's no surprise that it becomes a topic in a thread like this.
 
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If the gameplay is good as TLOU2 the lead could be a black, Amish and transgender person. That being said it is funny how the same people accusing everybody else of being triggered are the ones who seem triggered over everything slightly progressive these days.
 

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This was reported by a movie insider with a near-perfect track record back in 2018 actually, that's when I first heard of it.



Then there was a Reddit leak in 2019 showing that the codename for this project was "Stray's Cross." Apparently it's a first-person action-adventure game with steampunk elements.



That casting was actually for Isaac in TLOU2. Played by Jeffrey Wright. Black actor, 40s to 60s, etc.

Also, pretty sure the Stray's Cross thing was a fake 4chan "leak."
 
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That casting was actually for Isaac in TLOU2. Played by Jeffrey Wright. Black actor, 40s to 60s, etc.

Also, pretty sure the Stray's Cross thing was a fake 4chan "leak."
I mean TLOU2 was announced in 2016 & gameplay for it was shown off in 2018, this guy says the casting was for a "secret project" they're working on.
 
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