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ME: Legendary Edition mod restores the 'Miranda Butt' camera

As I said in the other thread about this topic I prefer the LE version of this scene. I enjoy sexy times as much as the next healthy male, but senseless T&A is a cheap narrative tactic.

Like in Game of Thrones I always found myself going, "Ladies, do you mind putting your titties away, I'm trying to pay attention to the plot."
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
As I said in the other thread about this topic I prefer the LE version of this scene. I enjoy sexy times as much as the next healthy male, but senseless T&A is a cheap narrative tactic.

Like in Game of Thrones I always found myself going, "Ladies, do you mind putting your titties away, I'm trying to pay attention to the plot."
ha gay GIF
 

mckmas8808

Banned
Mass effect ass= Objectifying and sexualising women

Cardi B talking about a WAP = Empowering women….

How dumb are the people making these choices and the entertainment industry etc

They are two TOTALLY different sets of people. STOP making them the same.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
They are two TOTALLY different sets of people. STOP making them the same.
I didnt say they are not different people. I said the the people making these choices ( video game makers etc ) AND the entertainment industry.
And its the first time Ive mentioned it, so defo not gonna stop lol.

But for arguments sake now that you mention it…… Video games = entertainment, movies = entertainment, music industry = entertainment. All the journalists that cover these topics = entertainment journalists.

They are all pretty much saying the same things now days. Alot which are SJW’s ( which there are plenty in the video game industry )

Either way, The same people who say women in video games in the past were being over sexualised and women shouldnt look sexy in videos games And should be so much more and blah blah blah. Probably dont say a thing towards cardi B acting like a whore and praise it instead.

Don’t agree with me thats cool, don’t bother trying to convince me any different. Im not gonna go find a bunch of tweets and posts where journalists, directors and male femnists in the video game industry loving cardi B but also saying boobies in video games are bad.
Alot of people are agreeing with this narrative
 
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Isa

Gold Member
This is one of the reasons I never bought the LE. I commend the modders but I won't bite right now since I barely have any time to game as it is. Plus its not for console, and I don't want Bioware much less EA getting a single penny from me. Their priorities are absolutely out of whack. Plus the whole TSR thing just pushes me away further. There is a veritable sea of much better games to play anyway.
 
I didnt say they are not different people. I said the the people making these choices ( video game makers etc ) AND the entertainment industry.
And its the first time Ive mentioned it, so defo not gonna stop lol.

But for arguments sake now that you mention it…… Video games = entertainment, movies = entertainment, music industry = entertainment. All the journalists that cover these topics = entertainment journalists.

They are all pretty much saying the same things now days. Alot which are SJW’s ( which there are plenty in the video game industry )

Either way, The same people who say women in video games in the past were being over sexualised and women shouldnt look sexy in videos games And should be so much more and blah blah blah. Probably dont say a thing towards cardi B acting like a whore and praise it instead.

Don’t agree with me thats cool, don’t bother trying to convince me any different. Im not gonna go find a bunch of tweets and posts where journalists, directors and male femnists in the video game industry loving cardi B but also saying boobies in video games are bad…
Yep. Dead silence on anything to do with rap music. Also same ones praise porn as empowering, yet don't you dare show skin in a video game. How is porn empowering, because these hos (let's be real it's what they are exchanging sex for money on film) exploit men of their dollar? And they are silent on pop and rap, why?

I'm not a porn person I enjoy attractive fantasy art, paintings, movies, video games, books that's tasteful, as in attractive people in skimpy clothing, or no clothing in fantasy, medieval, scifi stories. This is who I am, and it's not changing for anyone's bs agenda.

I am with a woman, who luckily dresses up in a sexy fantasy outfits for me, but I still recognize beauty when I see it in art.
 

Pejo

Member
I love PC gaming. The weirdest shit that only a handful of people cared about gets its own mod that has a singular purpose.

I'm not even being ironic, I seriously love that this kind of thing exists and continues to happen on PC. It's truly the platform "of the people". You don't have to put this mod into the game, but for those that wanted ass shots, there's a fix for that.
 
This is one of the reasons I never bought the LE. I commend the modders but I won't bite right now since I barely have any time to game as it is. Plus its not for console, and I don't want Bioware much less EA getting a single penny from me. Their priorities are absolutely out of whack. Plus the whole TSR thing just pushes me away further. There is a veritable sea of much better games to play anyway.
Don't even get me started on that bs against TSR. These fing sjw nutters are the wet blanket in terms of fun. Gygax Jr I hope is successful in his venture. I commend him for taking a stand and will support any of their products that interest me.
 
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Isa

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Don't even get me started on that bs against TSR. These fing sjw nutters are the wet blanket in terms of fun. Gygax Jr I hope is successful in his venture. I commend him for taking a stand and will support any of their products that interest me.
Well said. I'm keen to see what they end up doing/releasing? I like to think that they could find a niche selling online, at least enough to support their venture. The OSR seen has seen some real cool systems, settings, and other trinkets and there has been a good bit of nostalgia lately examining the early releases. I'd love to see them one-up the competition and create their own convention haha.

On topic, I really liked the vibe of the second game despite the more generic shooter gameplay that ditched some of the rpg elements of the first. Miranda's backstory is pretty cool, has that cyberpunk feel.
 

mckmas8808

Banned
I didnt say they are not different people. I said the the people making these choices ( video game makers etc ) AND the entertainment industry.
And its the first time Ive mentioned it, so defo not gonna stop lol.

But for arguments sake now that you mention it…… Video games = entertainment, movies = entertainment, music industry = entertainment. All the journalists that cover these topics = entertainment journalists.

They are all pretty much saying the same things now days. Alot which are SJW’s ( which there are plenty in the video game industry )

Either way, The same people who say women in video games in the past were being over sexualised and women shouldnt look sexy in videos games And should be so much more and blah blah blah. Probably dont say a thing towards cardi B acting like a whore and praise it instead.

Don’t agree with me thats cool, don’t bother trying to convince me any different. Im not gonna go find a bunch of tweets and posts where journalists, directors and male femnists in the video game industry loving cardi B but also saying boobies in video games are bad.
Alot of people are agreeing with this narrative

The bolded is not correct though. That's what I'm trying to say. Your lack of understanding the issue of respecting women is showing too.

1. Women were oversexualized in videogames years ago.
2. That doesn't mean women shouldn't look sexy at all in any game.
3. Cardi B has never acted like a whore.
4. The people that agree with you also DON'T understand any issue that people bring up about respecting women because many love being ignorant.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The bolded is not correct though. That's what I'm trying to say. Your lack of understanding the issue of respecting women is showing too.

1. Women were oversexualized in videogames years ago.
2. That doesn't mean women shouldn't look sexy at all in any game.
3. Cardi B has never acted like a whore.
4. The people that agree with you also DON'T understand any issue that people bring up about respecting women because many love being ignorant.
Meme Reaction GIF by MOODMAN
 

oagboghi2

Member
The bolded is not correct though. That's what I'm trying to say. Your lack of understanding the issue of respecting women is showing too.

1. Women were oversexualized in videogames years ago.
2. That doesn't mean women shouldn't look sexy at all in any game.
3. Cardi B has never acted like a whore.
4. The people that agree with you also DON'T understand any issue that people bring up about respecting women because many love being ignorant.
She literally sings about being a whore
 

Kokoloko85

Member
The bolded is not correct though. That's what I'm trying to say. Your lack of understanding the issue of respecting women is showing too.

1. Women were oversexualized in videogames years ago.
2. That doesn't mean women shouldn't look sexy at all in any game.
3. Cardi B has never acted like a whore.
4. The people that agree with you also DON'T understand any issue that people bring up about respecting women because many love being ignorant.
Lets agree to disagree.

If women in games have been oversexualised ( they are not real women btw ) then Women in the music and movie industry have been over sexualised too.

If Cardi B is allowed to talk about her wet ass pussy and admit she use to drug men and sleep with them to steal from them, then I think she is a whore…. And it shouldn’t be praised as empowerment while video games get censor…

Maybe instead of insisting me and others lack understading, maybe you lack understanding?
Just because I don’t respect Cardi B doesnt mean I don’t respect all women. Maybe you need to not group all women as a collective, they are individuals as are all people. 1 woman doesnt mean all women ok?

Plenty women and men, think Cardi B is a whore and not someone worth respecting. Maybe stop making it about sexes and sides and collectives.

Seems like your ignorant and act like you know how I and others feel just because I think Cardi B is a whore lol and want like censorship in video games lol
 

Kokoloko85

Member
The bolded is not correct though. That's what I'm trying to say. Your lack of understanding the issue of respecting women is showing too.

1. Women were oversexualized in videogames years ago.
2. That doesn't mean women shouldn't look sexy at all in any game.
3. Cardi B has never acted like a whore.
4. The people that agree with you also DON'T understand any issue that people bring up about respecting women because many love being ignorant.

Post-Chorus: Cardi B, G-Eazy]
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money

whore
/hɔː/
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noun

  1. 1.
    DEROGATORY
    a prostitute


prostitute
/ˈprɒstɪtjuːt/
Learn to pronounce

noun

  1. a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

Not a whore right?
Empowerment?
Thats one song, we can keep pretending she’s not a whore or doesnt act like a whore. I dont wanna respect someone like this lol
 
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mckmas8808

Banned

What's your definition of a whore?
She literally sings about being a whore


What's your definition of a whore?

Lets agree to disagree.

If women in games have been oversexualised ( they are not real women btw ) then Women in the music and movie industry have been over sexualised too.

If Cardi B is allowed to talk about her wet ass pussy and admit she use to drug men and sleep with them to steal from them, then I think she is a whore…. And it shouldn’t be praised as empowerment while video games get censor…

Maybe instead of insisting me and others lack understading, maybe you lack understanding?
Just because I don’t respect Cardi B doesnt mean I don’t respect all women. Maybe you need to not group all women as a collective, they are individuals as are all people. 1 woman doesnt mean all women ok?

Plenty women and men, think Cardi B is a whore and not someone worth respecting. Maybe stop making it about sexes and sides and collectives.

Seems like your ignorant and act like you know how I and others feel just because I think Cardi B is a whore lol and want like censorship in video games lol

- You're right, they aren't real women. But they are women characters, so what's really the difference?
- Yes, the women in music have been overly sexualised. You're 100% right.
- Not everyone thinks what Cardi talks about is women empowerment. Trust me......she has her haters within the rap industry and within the entertainment industry. She isn't 100% loved.
- And what's the point in viewing Carbi B as a whore anyway? What does that mean at all (within the entertainment industry)? Like why bring that up when this thread is about a video game?
Post-Chorus: Cardi B, G-Eazy]
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money
Yeah, fuck him then I get some money

whore
/hɔː/
Learn to pronounce

noun

  1. 1.
    DEROGATORY
    a prostitute


prostitute
/ˈprɒstɪtjuːt/
Learn to pronounce

noun

  1. a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

Not a whore right?
Empowerment?
Thats one song, we can keep pretending she’s not a whore or doesnt act like a whore. I dont wanna respect someone like this lol

So that's you're understanding of what a whore is? If so, do you view it as a bad thing to be a "whore"? If so why? Do you view women going on dates and then having sex at the end of the night whores? Because I don't believe you view men who get with women purely for sex as whores.
 
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Kokoloko85

Member
So that's you're understanding of what a whore is? If so, do you view it as a bad thing to be a "whore"? If so why? Do you view women going on dates and then having sex at the end of the night whores? Because I don't believe you view men who get with women purely for sex as whores.

Your making too many assumptions dude. Again you’re acting like you know me and others and what I believe or how I view things.

Do i view being a whore a bad thing?
If you want to get technical, I dont think people should be imprisoned for being prostitues no, but I think its unfortunate they have to it.
If she takes Payment at the end of the night yes, if not, no. Whats being a whore got to do with going on dates?

Theres no such thing as “my” understanding of a whore, there is only 1 meaning for it. Someone who takes money for sex, la prostituta. I put the definitions of the dictionary up there for you too. Google it.

Stop trying to sound like a new age knight.
A Whore means whore, a prostitute. Which Cardi B says shes fucked for money…
I think your trying to defend the word slut. A slut is different to a whore. Male equivalent to a whore is a gigolo. A male can be a slut.

Whore = Prostitute
Slut = A woman who has many casual sexual partners. NOT A WHORE

All I said is Cardi B is a whore. Take the loss and stop calling people ignorant and having lack of understanding when you don’t even know the difference between a whore and a slut.

Again Cardi B is a whore, get over it, move on. Gain some understanding and stop acting like you know how people think just because they think a Cardi B is a whore. I can disrecpect a whore like Cardi B Who brags about drugging people to steal from them. She’s no1 for me to respect.

Pretty ignorant to think because I don’t repect someone like that, that I dont respect women.

Change you profile pic while your at it, Malcom X would call Cardi B a whore too lol. He way to smart for this shit

I want to bring it up in a video game thread, because there are some idiots who think both Cardi B is empowering but video games should be censored and its wrong to have women in these roles in games
 
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Patrick S.

Banned
Your making too many assumptions dude. Again you’re acting like you know me and others and what I believe or how I view things.

Do i view being a whore a bad thing?
If you want to get technical, I dont think people should be imprisoned for being prostitues no, but I think its unfortunate they have to it.
If she takes Payment at the end of the night yes, if not, no. Whats being a whore got to do with going on dates?

Theres no such thing as “my” understanding of a whore, there is only 1 meaning for it. Someone who takes money for sex, la prostituta. I put the definitions of the dictionary up there for you too. Google it.

Stop trying to sound like a new age knight.
A Whore means whore, a prostitute. Which Cardi B says shes fucked for money…
I think your trying to defend the word slut. A slut is different to a whore. Male equivalent to a whore is a gigolo. A male can be a slut.

Whore = Prostitute
Slut = A woman who has many casual sexual partners. NOT A WHORE

All I said is Cardi B is a whore. Take the loss and stop calling people ignorant and having lack of understanding when you don’t even know the difference between a whore and a slut.

Again Cardi B is a whore, get over it, move on. Gain some understanding and stop acting like you know how people think just because they think a Cardi B is a whore. I can disrecpect a whore like Cardi B Who brags about drugging people to steal from them. She’s no1 for me to respect.

Pretty ignorant to think because I don’t repect someone like that, that I dont respect women.

Change you profile pic while your at it, Malcom X would call Cardi B a whore too lol. He way to smart for this shit

I want to bring it up in a video game thread, because there are some idiots who think both Cardi B is empowering but video games should be censored and its wrong to have women in these roles in games
Admit it, you want to bang Cardi B.
 

Javthusiast

Banned
Women have the right to do with their bodies what they want, use their sex appeal, cause it's empowering.

All these fictional video game characters or artworks etc. have the same right to exist and be sexualized by their creators and not be critizied and censored by hypocrite sjws.

And btw. Instagram, Tik Tok and mainstream music being full with nothing other than perfectly tuned up, half naked women has more of an affect on young girls, who wanna look the same, then fucking fictional characters.
 

mckmas8808

Banned
Your making too many assumptions dude. Again you’re acting like you know me and others and what I believe or how I view things.

Do i view being a whore a bad thing?
If you want to get technical, I dont think people should be imprisoned for being prostitues no, but I think its unfortunate they have to it.
If she takes Payment at the end of the night yes, if not, no. Whats being a whore got to do with going on dates?

Theres no such thing as “my” understanding of a whore, there is only 1 meaning for it. Someone who takes money for sex, la prostituta. I put the definitions of the dictionary up there for you too. Google it.

Stop trying to sound like a new age knight.
A Whore means whore, a prostitute. Which Cardi B says shes fucked for money…
I think your trying to defend the word slut. A slut is different to a whore. Male equivalent to a whore is a gigolo. A male can be a slut.

Whore = Prostitute
Slut = A woman who has many casual sexual partners. NOT A WHORE

All I said is Cardi B is a whore. Take the loss and stop calling people ignorant and having lack of understanding when you don’t even know the difference between a whore and a slut.

Again Cardi B is a whore, get over it, move on. Gain some understanding and stop acting like you know how people think just because they think a Cardi B is a whore. I can disrecpect a whore like Cardi B Who brags about drugging people to steal from them. She’s no1 for me to respect.

Pretty ignorant to think because I don’t repect someone like that, that I dont respect women.

Change you profile pic while your at it, Malcom X would call Cardi B a whore too lol. He way to smart for this shit

I want to bring it up in a video game thread, because there are some idiots who think both Cardi B is empowering but video games should be censored and its wrong to have women in these roles in games

I'm only assuming certain things because only women get ripped for doing sexual acts. I've never heard of a guy ripping guys like Derek Jeter or Cristiano Ronaldo for banging a bunch of chicks due to their good looks and money.

To your question "Whats being a whore got to do with going on dates?"

- That's what Cardi B was talking about in that song. She wasn't talking about having sex with a dude after walking the streets as a prostitute does. But you don't understand the nuance of things clearly. To you, if a woman has sex with the same dude that gives her money at any time, then she's a whore. I'm trying to explain to you why that's wrong (in the context of the song). Those two (Cardi B and G-Eazy) aren't in a whore\John situation. The two are clearly together in a relationship (technically he's trying to court the chick with his money).

- And again if you don't respect Cardi B for sexual acts that she does, then I ask, do you respect men that have lots of sex with women because they have money (i.e. Brad Pitt, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, David Beckham, Leonardo DiCaprio, etc)
Women have the right to do with their bodies what they want, use their sex appeal, cause it's empowering.

All these fictional video game characters or artworks etc. have the same right to exist and be sexualized by their creators and not be critizied and censored by hypocrite sjws.

And btw. Instagram, Tik Tok and mainstream music being full with nothing other than perfectly tuned up, half naked women has more of an affect on young girls, who wanna look the same, then fucking fictional characters.

I agree with this whole post, except for the sjw part. That phrase is overused.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
I'm only assuming certain things because only women get ripped for doing sexual acts. I've never heard of a guy ripping guys like Derek Jeter or Cristiano Ronaldo for banging a bunch of chicks due to their good looks and money.

To your question "Whats being a whore got to do with going on dates?"

- That's what Cardi B was talking about in that song. She wasn't talking about having sex with a dude after walking the streets as a prostitute does. But you don't understand the nuance of things clearly. To you, if a woman has sex with the same dude that gives her money at any time, then she's a whore. I'm trying to explain to you why that's wrong (in the context of the song). Those two (Cardi B and G-Eazy) aren't in a whore\John situation. The two are clearly together in a relationship (technically he's trying to court the chick with his money).

- And again if you don't respect Cardi B for sexual acts that she does, then I ask, do you respect men that have lots of sex with women because they have money (i.e. Brad Pitt, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, David Beckham, Leonardo DiCaprio, etc)


I agree with this whole post, except for the sjw part. That phrase is overused.

Boo hoo you havent heard guys rip about Ronaldo or Derek Jeter, is that my problem? Want me to go ask everyone and fix the world for you? Im sure plenty of people complain just the way you do.

Stop asking me about men who sleep around and what I think about them. I dont respect them for sleeping around. Do they sing songs about there big wet dicks and how many girls they fuck? Do I respect a rapper for that? No.

But do these guys claim to drug women women and steal from them like Cardi B admitted to doing? ( here’s a secret, she a wrongin )

Geazy has probably paid plenty whores to sleep with him, these guys arent innocent and she’s probably done the opposite.

Im bored. She’s a whore. Her bf/husband probably thinks shes a whore and thats why he cheats on her and will carry on doing so.
And she probably has sleep with guys for money while she was stripper or selling drugs to them or robbing them and sleeping with them or whatever she done.
Lets just agree to disagree. I think she’s a whore, you don’t
 
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mckmas8808

Banned
Boo hoo you havent heard guys rip about Ronaldo or Derek Jeter, is that my problem? Want me to go ask everyone and fix the world for you? Im sure plenty of people complain just the way you do.

Stop asking me about men who sleep around and what I think about them. I dont respect them for sleeping around. Do they sing songs about there big wet dicks and how many girls they fuck? Do I respect a rapper for that? No.

But do these guys claim to drug women women and steal from them like Cardi B admitted to doing? ( here’s a secret, she a wrongin )

Geazy has probably paid plenty whores to sleep with him, these guys arent innocent and she’s probably done the opposite.

Im bored. She’s a whore. Her bf/husband probably thinks shes a whore and thats why he cheats on her and will carry on doing so.
And she probably has sleep with guys for money while she was stripper or selling drugs to them or robbing them and sleeping with them or whatever she done.
Lets just agree to disagree. I think she’s a whore, you don’t

- I'm not the one that started the proposition for the world to be fixed for me. The replies in this thread show that many dudes in here are upset at something that I believe to be stupid and harmless in the first place.
- Thank you for answering my question. And yes, many of those "type" of guys brag about how many women they've slept with. BTW....I don't view that as bad (but nor do I view Cardi rapping about her good cooch as being bad either).
- Cardi B admitting to stealing from dudes is 100% wrong. No two ways around that.

🤝 to agreeing to disagree.
 

the_master

Member
They added a photo mode where you control the camera. In exchange for cutting 1 or 2 awkward angles in a cutscene you can just zoom in on her ass whenever you want.
What is awkward about this camera?
Sheppard was just looking at her ass, like it may happen in real life. We should not need to be censoring this things. We censor more every day, it is worrying.
 

Fredrik

Member
What is awkward about this camera?
Sheppard was just looking at her ass, like it may happen in real life. We should not need to be censoring this things. We censor more every day, it is worrying.
Violence and gore isn’t censored, many devs has started adding a gore setting in a menu though.
How about having the same for T&A?

It’s naive to think everybody on the planet are triggered by the same things. There are cultural and upbringing differences making us react differently to the same content. That said, Instagram and TikTok are filled with young women gladly bouncing their ass on camera showing off their curves. It’s unlikely that gaming is somehow pushing it too far with the original booty cam in ME in 2021, I think it’s just Bioware being dinosaurs or maybe they made the changes for character reasons.

Anyway, modders always finds a way, and PC wins yet again
Happy Eddie Murphy GIF
 

kiphalfton

Member
Its not really just a gamer thing. Straight guys who aren't simps, white knights or lying(and I would assume lesbains, but I can't talk for them) who don't bow down to sjw/feminist and establishment corporate norms being pushed out from on high are all for this being restored.

It's not our fault if we find women attractive. It's in our nature, some of us guys like myself are really into curves of the female body, lusicous hips and silky smooth thighs that your hands can just glide across, ahh... So good...

But I degrees. If some ladies can't handle their man looking at a fake (as in its a game and also due to her character in game) beautiful woman with assets then they may have some insecurities to deal with and communication with their man. I can at least understand that and empathize with them, to a degree, as this isn't porn or anything it's art.

What I can't understand is white knights and sjw/feminists who push against attraction and sex appeal. The same types who I have seen calling romantic love oppression against women (I shit u not, actually seen feminist talk about how romance and attraction is a social construct and designed to oppress women and they need to be independant and single with no man holding them down to the ideal of it) smh.. Lol. Ironically the same people are aok with porn or real mysogyny in Rap videos. Video games with attractive people and a few but shots... Watch out lmao.

Inb4 "but it's just pixels".

Me personally, I'm a simple man. A nice ass is a nice ass, and I can almost guaran-goddam-tee at some point during the life of all straight males they have seen a character in a cartoon, video game, etc. that had sexually appealing features and said to themselves "dayum"?
 
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Fredrik

Member
Inb4 "but it's just pixels".

Me personally, I'm a simple man. A nice ass is a nice ass, and I can almost guaran-goddam-tee at some point during the life of all straight males they have seen a character in a cartoon, video game, etc. that had sexually appealing features and said to themselves "dayum"?
Lol yeah imagine if people were dissecting game violence the same way as people talk about Miranda’s lovely derriere, then we’d 100% hear that it’s just pixels, but when it’s about sex appeal it’s always like it’s real. What’s the deal? 🤷‍♂️
 

Majukun

Member
Mass effect ass= Objectifying and sexualising women

Cardi B talking about a WAP = Empowering women….

How dumb are the people making these choices and the entertainment industry etc
while the removal of the ass shots is nothing but a pr move, the difference lays in agency

someone forcing you to go around in a skimpy outfit is objectification, you deciding to do it it's not..of course you can argue that miranda is a fictional character that cannot express agency anyway, which is what makes it just a PR move
 
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