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[Bo_Hazem]

I love Larian Studios and their games especially their Divine Divinity franchise but Baldurs Gate 3 doesn't look next gen to me. Still looks nice though and will be getting it.

 

[Polygonal_Sprite]

Did you report him?

I can always tell when a ps game yet again takes the gfx crown. Vfx busts in shooting from the hip.

It’s ridiculous he’s not been banned yet tbh.

Would make it the third different forum I’ve seen him banned on too for trolling Sony games rofl. Guys completely obsessed.

 

[Console Gaming 40 years]

Gaming since 1980
And I say " vfx veteran" could you Just leave neogaf. You are alvays wrong
Ps5 Made hole pc Gaming obsolate
And that is 100℅ fact!
You leave or I leave

 

[BlueXImpulse]

 

[Astral Dog]

It's a nice game but they should offer some free content to pad out this 8 hour adventure. Otherwise, this is just giving us "Inches" instead of "Miles".

Then it wouldn't have been a launch game

 

[bender]

I hate this suit so much.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

I hate this suit so much.

What's your favorite suit

 

[cragarmi]

Without a doubt. Spider-Man: Miles Morales should be the poster child for ray tracing until something better comes along.

Until the next Spiderman game probably.

 

[Tripolygon]

The draw distance on display in that reflection is fucking amazingly ridiculous. Not bad for a GPU that is around GTX 1080.

 

[bender]

What's your favorite suit

Track or Spider Verse. Negative in the previous game

 

[Hunnybun]

Naw man. RT made little to no difference IMO before spiderman and the latest watchdogs game. Both these games are displaying a huge amount of reflective surface which is essentially duplicating the world detail X2. It makes sense to me why people are impressed by RT in these two games.

I would have to concur.

Watch Dogs and MM are the only times I've been truly impressed by RT reflections.

I'm not sure why Control never impressed me that much - I accept it's more technically advanced but I just don't really like the look of that game.

The only other RT that's really grabbed me is the GI in Metro Exodus.

 

[bender]

I would have to concur.

Watch Dogs and MM are the only times I've been truly impressed by RT reflections.

I'm not sure why Control never impressed me that much - I accept it's more technically advanced but I just don't really like the look of that game.

The only other RT that's really grabbed me is the GI in Metro Exodus.

Quake?

 

[Killer Sakoman]

It looks nice, but very gamey and unrealistic/next gen. But looking at this game, you can't even know it's a game from how immersive and realistic looking it is:

That's the difference between next gen and crossgen (spiderman MM). Sorry.

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What game is this RPG? It looks like my shit after eating jalapeños

 

[bender]

What game is this RPG? It looks like my shit after eating jalapeños

Maybe stope eating jalapeños.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Sorry Demon's Souls, I'm not a fan of souls games. Spiderman MM is my first celebration of next gen!

I really love those suits of the Remastered!

 

[azertydu91]

I would have to concur.

Watch Dogs and MM are the only times I've been truly impressed by RT reflections.

I'm not sure why Control never impressed me that much - I accept it's more technically advanced but I just don't really like the look of that game.

The only other RT that's really grabbed me is the GI in Metro Exodus.

Weird I feel the other way around, loved RT in Control and felt meh on Metro....I guess the uses of RT can be like artistic choices some like some don't.

 

[bender]

Damn, those are awesome.

I keep trying to talk myself into Miles Morales. Hearing all the impressions are encouraging and I think that they trimmed out a lot of the fat of the previous game is fantastic news. ...but when I see game play videos I return to apathy. It doesn't look bad or anything, I think it's just too soon.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Sorry Demon's Souls, I'm not a fan of souls games. Spiderman MM is my first celebration of next gen!

I really love those suits of the Remastered!

Well, you need to coop with me in Boletaria.
You're gonna finish Spider-Man MM in few days. It's like 8 hours main missions and probably another 5 for side missions.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Damn, those are awesome.

I keep trying to talk myself into Miles Morales. Hearing all the impressions are encouraging and I think that they trimmed out a lot of the fat of the previous game is fantastic news. ...but when I see game play videos I return to apathy. It doesn't look bad or anything, I think it's just too soon.

I'm more excited about Horizon FW and GOW: Ragnarok honestly, but SM MM is a good start!

Well, you need to coop with me in Boletaria.
You're gonna finish Spider-Man MM in few days. It's like 8 hours main missions and probably another 5 for side missions.

Then I'll buy AC Valhalla, Gold Edition.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

I'm more excited about Horizon FW and GOW: Ragnarok honestly, but SM MM is a good start!



Then I'll buy AC Valhalla, Gold Edition.

You play Ubisoft games? You tase in gaming is too VFX

 

[sircaw]

I hate this suit so much.

i had PJs like that when i was six, shut your face.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

You play Ubisoft games? You tase in gaming is too VFX

Looks like shit, but I'm an AC fan, and hope it can be as good as AC Odyssey.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

I only played the 1st hour of the original and few hours in the sequel. I felt like dying of boredom. Then plaued some Farcry 2 and felt the same. Never touched an Ubisoft game after that ever and not gonna happen anytime soon.

 

[bender]

i had PJs like that when i was six, shut your face.

And you never outgrew them.

 

[sircaw]

And you never outgrew them.

My brother had the batman ones, those seriously looked gay.

 

[bender]

My brother had the batman ones, those seriously looked gay.

 

[sircaw]

Trust me, that looks cool, i was thinking more del boy and rodders batman looking

 

[Hunnybun]

And many xbox/pc fans say the same thing about their 3rd party games being downplayed by the Sony fans because those games are available to every platform and not just one. We should all put every Sony exclusive review thread on ignore to filter out the continuous false revelations of new technology suddenly being the new de facto standard despite the tech having come out over 2yrs ago with many many examples of it's use.

It's funny how you consider me 'downplaying' a Sony game when I mention there is nothing special about it both tech-wise and implementation wise. It's like I absolutely have to be on board with it being the greatest thing since sliced bread in order to not have the 'downplay' label attached to my name. So funny..

Tbh mate I think people just want you to shut the fuck up and stop ruining threads us PS "fanboys" want to use to discuss stuff we're excited about.

If that bothers you so much maybe you should look for another forum - OR, radical idea, I know - stay out of PlayStation threads.

 

[Hunnybun]

Quake?

I was just counting modern games with a typical RT implementation. Obviously Quake looks spectacular but it's not really comparable.

 

[Rikkori]

Wow! This looks so good it's unimaginable they could do it on the Playstation 4, this is truly a next-gen leap! Thank you Sony for the power of PS5, I don't even want to imagine still making these games for current gen, they would look just... yuck. The NPCs probably would be 2 every 5 miles, the swinging speed would have to be reduced by 90%, and there would no shadows or even lighting alone, let alone reflections! And all would have to run at 720p (oh God, like the Switch! gasp) Again, thank you Sony for the PS5. #PowerYourSSDreams

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[VFXVeteran]

Why are you showing reflections instead of texture detail on the ground? If you want to do comparisons between the RT games, pick up this discussion in my ray-tracing thread.

 

[Mr Hyde]

RT in this game must surely be impressive if it causes PC master race to break down and cry.

 

[Handy Fake]

Why are you showing reflections instead of texture detail on the ground? If you want to do comparisons between the RT games, pick up this discussion in my ray-tracing thread.

geordiemp

Don't tell him, Pike!

 

[MasterCornholio]

Wow! This looks so good it's unimaginable they could do it on the Playstation 4, this is truly a next-gen leap! Thank you Sony for the power of PS5, I don't even want to imagine still making these games for current gen, they would look just... yuck. The NPCs probably would be 2 every 5 miles, the swinging speed would have to be reduced by 90%, and there would no shadows or even lighting alone, let alone reflections! And all would have to run at 720p (oh God, like the Switch! gasp) Again, thank you Sony for the PS5. #PowerYourSSDreams

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You disagree with Digital Foundry?

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[Senua]

So sexy, would have to be 60fps mode for me though even tho i'd miss out on the chode tingling reflections

 

[MadchesterManc]

Quake?

Quake II RTX is probably the most impressive for me so far being fully path traced - it's implementation is certainly a step up to most others I've tried. Have to run with dynamic resolution for 60fps on a 2080ti tho, really makes the card sweat like few other games can

 

[geordiemp]

geordiemp

Don't tell him, Pike!

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Wow! This looks so good it's unimaginable they could do it on the Playstation 4, this is truly a next-gen leap! Thank you Sony for the power of PS5, I don't even want to imagine still making these games for current gen, they would look just... yuck. The NPCs probably would be 2 every 5 miles, the swinging speed would have to be reduced by 90%, and there would no shadows or even lighting alone, let alone reflections! And all would have to run at 720p (oh God, like the Switch! gasp) Again, thank you Sony for the PS5. #PowerYourSSDreams

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PS4 version barely has lighting, the hair rendering is awful and there's no self shadowing in sight.

You can get PS4 games to run on PS3, they would just look really fucking bad.

Thank you Sony for showing us what next gen gaming is like from day one!

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

The LOD in the photo mode of the npc pedestrian was jaw dropping. That crazy detail is some next generation stuff. That level of LOD on just one NPC in an open world is some magic which the geometry engine makes possible.

Why are you showing reflections instead of texture detail on the ground? If you want to do comparisons between the RT games, pick up this discussion in my ray-tracing thread.

This is the most impressive RT implementation I've seen. Why does WD not look as good? I read that the RT in WD is 'short', so more detailed but doesn't travel far like the bonkers skyscraper reflections in SM.

 

[MasterCornholio]

 

[OsirisBlack]

Why am I even wasting my time with a casual like you? What do you even know about next gen? Here, have a taste of this full next gen, mindblowing graphics and animations of Baldur's Gate 3:

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Yo ass better stop making fun of BG3 it’s the most fun I’ve had with any game in a long time. I did however laugh at the post

 

[MasterCornholio]

Yo ass better stop making fun of BG3 it’s the most fun I’ve had with any game in a long time. I did however laugh at the post

To be fair people using it as an example of a next gen game are being disrespectful to the developers. What I mean by that is that the studio isn't exactly a gigantic one with a massive budget. The visuals reflect that but it's still going to be an incredible game.

Edit: I just saw that they have over 250 employees so the size of the studio isn't an issue. It's probably a design choice for them because they want the game to be playable on a variety of systems.

 

[Umbral]

Why is everyone I’ve seen in the footage ugly, have an awful voice, or is corny? Miles being the biggest offender. They should have used Spiderverse Miles.

 

[Grinchy]

This is still the best raytraced reflections moment so far:

You can see through the glass into the store at the same time as what's happening on the street behind you. As the girl walks away out of frame, you still see her in the window. It just looks so damn convincing.

Timestamped Youtube link

 

[Tajaz2426]

Wow! This looks so good it's unimaginable they could do it on the Playstation 4, this is truly a next-gen leap! Thank you Sony for the power of PS5, I don't even want to imagine still making these games for current gen, they would look just... yuck. The NPCs probably would be 2 every 5 miles, the swinging speed would have to be reduced by 90%, and there would no shadows or even lighting alone, let alone reflections! And all would have to run at 720p (oh God, like the Switch! gasp) Again, thank you Sony for the PS5. #PowerYourSSDreams

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Honest question? Are you a child using your mom or dad’s account. You surely cannot be an adult and act this way. This is quite the embarrassment. Try to grow up a little and discuss things instead of using low IQ replies.

People are going to enjoy these games, just as they do on the XBox one. See how easy that was?

 

[Neo Blaster]

Don't care as the main story is only 8-10 hours long, 0/10.

Side missions and collectibles will boost this time like any other open world. Don't be so bitter just because competition AAA next gen exclusives are 0 hours long at the moment.

 

[thelastword]

VFXVeteran

Look at Nxgamer's review of Watchdogs. Let's be honest, the new watchdogs does not even look as good as the initial trailer for the first watchdogs. The city of London is set in a sunny/bright setting. Miles Morales is set in winter in New York, whatever you prefer, the artsyle of these two weather settings or locales varies, but technically Miles Morales is way ahead of WD. When the entire map can be swung around from ontop where you can draw so much more detail including RT reflections across buildings and surfaces whilst zipping over a massive map, come and talk to me, where you can't hide or obfuscate detail based on the high top view of MM, where you can easily hide background and distant elements/buildings/detail in WD.......

Yet still, as you would see, there are lots of low rez textures and assets all over in Watch Dogs, the lighting is less pronounced and let's not forget that Spiderman is being rendered at 4k native at 30fps locked with top notch IQ since they are using a neat supersampling feature. No DLSS BS here that does not always approximate background detail well, what we have here is a quality looking game from a quality studio where all aspects of the pipeline is at a high quality......Top notch character models, high quality detail and textures, high quality effects, hell even NPC's have more detail than in many of your Turing RTX games. This is the real deal, everybody sees it, not because they are biased for Sony, but because it's the truth. Even DF has lots of bias, but as much as they try to downplay Sony games at times and nitpick, they can't deny Sony First party studios, their quality speaks for itself and supercedes any bias that will pop up...

I also have some sad news, MM is just the start. If you are triggered by this, just you wait....PD are going to light some fire pretty soon, we know they are the lighting gods.....Also, have you seen footage of Killzone Shadowfall a launch game running at 60fps, a launch 2013 game, better pray this PS4 launch game does not get an RT 4k patch....I shudder to think what the big boys will show come playtime, remember Miles is still a cross gen game and it's already at pole position easily...

 

[geordiemp]

Insomniac Dev

 

[DonJorginho]

Side missions and collectibles will boost this time like any other open world. Don't be so bitter just because competition AAA next gen exclusives are 0 hours long at the moment.

Mate I was being sarcastic

I'm beyond hyped for this title!

 

[Neo Blaster]

Mate I was being sarcastic

I'm beyond hyped for this title!

Sorry, man, sometimes it's difficult to catch that without a '/s'.