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Marvel's Avengers: Gear, Currency and Monetization Explained

Elcid

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Here's a better video where the narrator doesn't sound like he's going through puberty. Oh and it's less than 4 minutes.
 
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BlackM1st

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Just play Marvel Future fight on mobile ppl. At least it's F2P and full of content.


 
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Ailike

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Do I get Marvel credit for the tons of cash I dropped on Marvel Heroes before they dropped it like a hot potato?
 

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Jim is no innnocent. He thrives on this type of content to line his own pockets. At the end of the day gaming is a business and there’s no reason to continue development on this game past release if it doesn’t continue to make money.
Gamers will justify anything, and get angry at the price who tell them the truth
 
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oagboghi2

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Couldn't stand this video for more than a couple minutes. God what an obnoxious personality, why does anyone give this guy views?

Anyways, I really don't understand all the confusion, seems forced. There's character passes that have premium levels, as seen in COD that give you trivial shit as rewards. Then there's a shop where you can buy extra shit as seen in Destiny. I don't understand people's mentality of, oh I paid 60 dollars a year ago so I'm forever more entitled to every piece of the game that's developed thereafter otherwise I'm being ripped off. You pay 60 bucks for the base game, if you want the extra premium shit, you can farm it OR pay for it. Seems fair to me. I mean have you seen all the shit Fortnite, DOTA2, Rainbow 6, COD, Destiny, etc. milk people for? This isn't even a fraction of that shit. COD wants me to pay for gun skins and vehicle skins.
What a stupid argument

"Other games use mtx to fleece their customers. Why can't the avengers."

Avengers is a flat boring brawler with a brain dead combat system. Could it have been more engaging, told a more interesting story, have a better, deeper combat system and more varied level design. Of course it could have, but it doesn't because unlike the Arkham games or Spiderman PS4, the focus of this game isn't to be good. It's to sell idiots like you skins.

Jim brought up a good point. Everyone wisely pointed out the flaw in this logic when it regarded Star Wars Battlefront 2. This isn't a better solution. It's the same old shit wrapped up in a different package.

These are bad games wrapped around digital stores selling you trinkets and skins.
 

Elcid

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What a stupid argument

"Other games use mtx to fleece their customers. Why can't the avengers."

Avengers is a flat boring brawler with a brain dead combat system. Could it have been more engaging, told a more interesting story, have a better, deeper combat system and more varied level design. Of course it could have, but it doesn't because unlike the Arkham games or Spiderman PS4, the focus of this game isn't to be good. It's to sell idiots like you skins.

Jim brought up a good point. Everyone wisely pointed out the flaw in this logic when it regarded Star Wars Battlefront 2. This isn't a better solution. It's the same old shit wrapped up in a different package.

These are bad games wrapped around digital stores selling you trinkets and skins.
Yeah buddy, I'm the idiot. Sure :messenger_grinning_squinting:. You don't need to buy anything besides the game. Do you just have no willpower to resist a pretty cosmetic?
 

Elcid

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Gonna flop hard
I'm sure they're not too worried. Game is clearly garbage and no one will play it past the first five minutes cause of the beta, amirite?

  • The Marvel's Avengers beta was collectively played for 28.5 million hours
  • More than 3.5 billion enemies were defeated
  • 240,000 players (less than 5%) maxed out a character
  • The Iron Man Chroma Lux outfit was bought 640,000 times, making it the most popular item in the marketplace
 
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Gods&Monsters

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Gamers will justify anything, and get angry at the price who tell them the truth

No one buying this game is angry about the free DLC besides you and other Sterling fans. Please describe the smell when he sits on you.

That guy got filthy rich by copypasting whatever the internet is angry about and making videos while wearing dresses and makeup. The biggest scammer of them all. Think for yourself for once.
 

Ozzie666

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I hope this fails hard. This just seems wrong on so many levels and I hope gamer's respond with not buying the game. But I suspect, it will still perform well and smash some sales records. Which will send the wrong message to publishers, again.
 
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cryptoadam

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All this stuff is for online only ?

Like the story mode doesnt need grinding or anything right?

If thats the case then whatever. MP is always MTX BS these days.
 

Elcid

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All this stuff is for online only ?

Like the story mode doesnt need grinding or anything right?

If thats the case then whatever. MP is always MTX BS these days.
It's only if you want certain skins/emotes/etc.
  • Hero Nameplates
  • Team Nameplates
  • Emotes
  • Takedowns
  • Outfits
 

GreyHand23

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I hope this fails hard. This just seems wrong on so many levels and I hope gamer's respond with not buying the game. But I suspect, it will still perform well and smash some sales records. Which will send the wrong message to publishers, again.

Nice to see that people are rooting for others to lose their jobs just because they can’t exercise self control and not buy optional cosmetics.
 

Ozzie666

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Nice to see that people are rooting for others to lose their jobs just because they can’t exercise self control and not buy optional cosmetics.

Okay, let me rephrase. I hope the game performs well enough for them all to keep their jobs and work on another project. But at the same time, I hope the game isn't a run away success. I am sure their expectations of sales are extremely high and unreasonable. Still not buying the lifeless game anyhow.
 

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Looks like they put just about everything into this game... Except the fun.

I don't understand these grind, battle pass, gear loot games personally.

I've tried the first Destiny and The Division but the end games were just not fun. Seemed more like work to me for no real payoff.
 

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I find it incredible that people still justify this garbage. The games are designed to push people into micro transactions for worthless garbage. Yea, when it was a single tiny link on the main screen that opened up the 360 store interface that’s one thing. But open up the MW2019 main menu and it is like a goddamn casino entrance, flashing tons of shit in your face constantly. It is manipulative and deceptive, and now that they got kids playing these games, there is peer pressure to kit out your character.

Like casino games or mobile games going back to FarmVille, now giant AAA console games that cost 9 figures to develop aren’t even that good or interesting mechanically or design-wise. The games exist first and foremost to keep you in the store, grinding away, buying battle passes, and spending money on stupid cosmetic MTs.
 

Javthusiast

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The game's loot is a complete joke. All it changes are the stats. So the cosmetics are the only fucking reason to actually play it and grind out the currency for it or buy it outright with real money. Cause it ain't the generic story or uninspired levels with boring robo enemies in them that will keep people engaged. No, it's the characters and all their iconic suits from the comics, shows, movies etc. that will cost money.

So the it's just cosmetics excuse in games like this is laughable.
 
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Freeman76

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As a SERIOUS pso addict, is this in a similar vein? I had a quick look on YT for some footage but was mainly long ass vids saying nothing.
 
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Haha, love these reactions. I don't like getting swamped with DLC either but eh, cosmetics. I'll live. It's not my job to tell people not to spend money. If they have no self control, not my problem. Monster Hunter World has nearly $500 worth of DLC. I only ever spent money on the game itself and the expansion. Well, not quite, bought the base game twice, once on PS4 and again when I bought the Iceborne bundle that included it on PC.
 
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I honestly don't mind the obvious cash grab cosmetics mtx, or endless DLC roadmap, but here is where I'm looking for them to really mess up.... They are going to launch all of this mtx stuff and not have MCU cosmetics available for purchase day one. I'd pay $5 to have an Ironman that looks anything like the MCU, not whatever this Crystal Dynamics Mark 1 armor is supposed to be (it's not even like the comics). Aside from Hulk the default cosmetics looks like flea market bargain bin Avengers, and they've heard this feedback loud and clear ever since they first showed the game off last year.
 
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It's been confirmed by people in earlier timezones that the challenge cards reward 1300 credits. So the initial 6 heroes can give 7800 if you grind them all.
 

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My personal rule of thumb these days is that any game that has MP and claims they will dish out future content free for all players, will have some form of premium battle pass. There is no way developers will maintain servers and fund future content development costs from their own pockets. Its the same exact thing the battle pass for Modern Warfare. The difference is in MW, you need to pay up on the first battle pass purchase, and completing the pass within that season will eventually net you enough credits to buy the next one. It may be better for Avengers since there is no time limit to complete the battle pass? Who knows...

But I'm willing to bet that the best and coolest cosmetics designs will only be available in the store and not part of the battle pass.