I said it in the other thread but yeah he's screwed either way. It fails and Joss just couldn't right a sinking ship and if it's good then wow Joss really turned it around.
I think Whedon is probably going to get a screenwriting or producing credit.Interesting.
I imagined reshoots were inevitable, but with a director change, I also imagined that scheduling would be a bitch. These actors have lives and projects outside of any one movie, so it was bound to be messy once things went on longer than intended.
I'm not the biggest Whedon fan, but I think he'll do his best to make the film more cohesive. That new trailer made it look like a completely different movie from the previous trailers we had. I'm curious as to how much of the film is being reworked. If Whedon isn't getting a director's credit (unless I read that part wrong), then his contributions are looking less than 40%. I swore I read that if a director contributes 40+% to a project, they get a co-director credit?
If Whedon isn't getting a director's credit (unless I read that part wrong), then his contributions are looking less than 40%. I swore I read that if a director contributes 40+% to a project, they get a co-director credit?
He also saidWe havent done any additional photography up to this point, Roven said. Since weve wrapped, theres been no additional photography."
The only thing is that if they have planned pick-up shots, which they had said they have planned for early summer they would have planned for those to be at a time when all the actors are free. The conflicts are likely because the reshoot are going longer, into time that conflicts with other schedules/filming for the actors' other movies. Like this article says, reshoots/pick ups are typically only a couple weeks, but this is going on 2 months, which verified that time period and location (London) claimed by this report on reshoots being done by Whedon.Were just in the post-production process. Thats where we are. Were in the middle of it, and I think its pretty common knowledge that were going to be doing some additional photography. The complications of trying to, you knowHenry [Cavill]s on Mission: Impossible, and our Aquaman is making Aquaman, Amy [Adams]s doing Sharper Objects [sic]so everybodys busy, and its that crazy Rubix cube of trying to find a way of getting everybody in the place to do the work that we need to do. Which is not that vast, the amount of work that we have to do, but its still really complicated that everybodys in different places around the world.
This is the bulk of the quote from the anonymous source (which they said also told them about Affleck going to rehab for the actor himself went public with it and told them about the scope of the Rogue One reshoots) and it doesn't say the film had been remade twice at that point, it says that from the start of principal photography to when it releases, it will have been remade twice. From what we know, that sounds like it could end up an accurate description: following the reception of BvS we've heard reports of them reworking the film to add more levity and delaying Justice League part 2 (which seems to have been a straight up cancellation from what we just saw of the upcoming DC film slate, unless it's planning to be reworked into the Flashpoint movie or something), which meant some reshoots and rewrites on set during principal photography. Now maybe there is something I missed about who was brought in to help with all that, but it seems like (via Variety) Whedon was brought on prior to Snyder leaving to help plan for those 2 month reshoots. It's possible that Whedon had already been brought on to help with adding levity during the shoot and since he was already working with Snyder, he was in the position to fully take over when he had to step away. I see the "remade 2 times" quote meaning the first remaking of the film was a hatchet job done to cut elements that they no longer wanted as well as on-set dialog rewrites, but then it became clear that they really had to do the bulk of the changes in pickups which ballooned reshoots to 2 months to rework the film from it's original incarnation. So it was already in a state of flux when Snyder left, but they couldn't change it significantly at the time, at least outside of big set pieces they decided they needed or didn't. They were working with Whedon to course correct to a slightly different direction, but Snyder had to step away so while most of the principal photography had been done at that point, the film wasn't finished and without Snyder, it was left to Whedon to not just tighten up the film, but to pull it altogether, which is why there is apparently question about his credit since he's doing significant work with connective tissue, even if the principal photography is finished.Speaking on a condition of anonymity, they said that in the 17 months between the start of principal photography and the final cut arriving in theaters in November that the film will have essentially been remade twice.
These reshoots are normal, but they're already being blown out of proportion in this thread, and it's pretty generally accepted that Suicide Squad got torn up in the editing room and with the script. Reshoots had nothing to do with it.
As with Fant4stic, the production of this mess sounds like it will be far more interesting than the film itself.
Well they pretended like Snyder had no hand in WW so...
If that's the price to pay for DCEU to get some peace, I guess Snyder is the hero we needed but didn't deserve.
As for the reshoots, they're meant to make the movie better, after they received some reviews from their screenings, so they're putting their money into the project and try to improve its shortcomings.
I also don't think they have much action sequences planned for those reshoots, sounds more like character scenes and "flow" than set piece. So the CG should be fine, outside of this mustache disaster.
Hopefully this time around they had the right people giving them the good feedback. Because whoever was fine with BvS needs to be fired forever.
Reshoots were always going to happen. These were planned. Whedon was going to help Snyder with character moments and dialogue. Snyder stepped down so Whedon is now doing the directing on these as well.
Yes they are longer, but it's Whedon doing what was always going to be done imo. Or maybe he's adding a bit more as well.
You would be surprised how easy it is to fuck up something simple.These films don't need much plot. Avengers was literally "stop bad guy using object."