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Jussie Smollett Sentenced to 150 Days in Jail

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Boss Mog

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Teach math, science, reading and writing.
Seriously, they need it. US kids have gotten dumber.
I'd argue that there's a difference between teaching people to not use slurs, and say...telling second graders about gender fluidity and masturbation, for instance. One is not being an asshole, the other is closer to indoctrination, as you said. The Leftists tend to conflate awareness with drafting soldiers into their army.
There's no need to go into detail to teach kids not to be mean to others. Teaching them that in life some people are different and that their differences don't make them bad people is enough. And that they should treat others the way they would like to be treated. That's the kind of stuff i was taught when i was a kid. It works.
 

CGiRanger

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Seriously, they need it. US kids have gotten dumber.

There's no need to go into detail to teach kids not to be mean to others. Teaching them that in life some people are different and that their differences don't make them bad people is enough. And that they should treat others the way they would like to be treated. That's the kind of stuff i was taught when i was a kid. It works.
Standards are no longer a thing. Merit and such has been undermined to such a degree that now catering to the lowest possible denominator is the thing to do.

I mean, how do you explain utter insanity like schools getting rid of AP classes or not rewarding students who score better because it might hurt feelings?
 

DeafTourette

Older than air but younger than the foundations of the earth
I'm not American, but no doubt things are always blown out of proportion in the US.

Probably the only country in the world where if there's two people who look different in a scuffle, the first thing is determining if there was racial intent.

One part media, one part culture, one part social media whoring. I live right over the border from the US (more like 90 min away) and it's like night and day. If I travel across the border, you got bulletproof glass in fast food shops and taxi cabs. Chicago subways can be guarded by cops with dogs at night. And not one cop/dog per train. Like one pair every 3 subway cars. Go to a Buffalo Sabres hockey game and outside the arena at each corner is a couple soldiers with a rifle keeping watch and their humvee (I guess to chase down any crooks). Youd think you were attending a military recruitment centre.

Ummm... No. More like historical baggage. And not ancient history, either... No matter how many times people want to peddle that lie.

This country (the US) has a problem with race still... Because no one, particularly the majority population, is willing to have the tough conversation about it and put in the work to eradicate it (as much as it can be without a Druig to mind control the whole country).

You see a white and black or brown man fighting... You can't just assume it's not race related because this country is not fully healed and there's a lot of pushback on it. Asians, Native Americans, black (Latino and non), Latinos and everyone in between and mixed has had a story to tell about dealing with racism from a white person or even from other POC ... And it goes deeper with jailing And sentencing discrepancies as well as other things ... But that's another discussion.

Things have gotten better but some things haven't changed. It isn't because of sharpton or Jackson Jr.... If black and brown people tell you their OWN experiences with racism... That isn't "the media and sharpton" ... Put down your political lenses And maybe listen to experiences unlike your own. I've shared some of mine here and they were dismissed because it wasn't your (general "your") experience. No duh it isn't.

Please understand, i am not angry by typing all this. I'm trying to explain why THAT PART of your post is wrong. You can disagree but I'm an American who knows this country's history and it's present. When i know multiple people (black, Asian and Native American and Latino) who have experienced racism in THIS country... It isn't the media or what have you. The media can't tell me that a white guy calling me the N-word is a bad thing. I ALREADY know it is.
 

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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Ummm... No. More like historical baggage. And not ancient history, either... No matter how many times people want to peddle that lie.
You can see it in this very thread, with multiple posters offering apologia for bigotry and saying that education about real people who exist in the world is abuse. Hate is real, bigotry isn't in the past.
 

DeafTourette

Older than air but younger than the foundations of the earth
4th, I refuse to believe a child at 5 years old, on their own accord, who hasn’t even gone through puberty which initiates sexual attraction… knows that they are “gay,” “straight,” etc..

Leave children alone. Don’t talk about sexual adult subjects wether hetero, gay, poly, bi, or whatever subjects that are rooted in sexual preferences and orientation.

Sickos out there playing to your manipulated appeals of emotion.

Teach math, science, reading and writing. It’s up to the parents for everything else.

So you don't remember yourself as a kid?

I knew i liked girls since i was 4 years old. Most kids know who they like when they're in kindergarten. They just don't have a word for it.
 

nush

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Asians, Native Americans, black (Latino and non), Latinos and everyone in between and mixed has had a story to tell about dealing with racism from a white person or even from other POC ... And it goes deeper with jailing And sentencing discrepancies as well as other things ... But that's another discussion.

People won't see it until they are in the minority, which for most people won't ever be the case. As a white guy in China I've been on the receiving end of it, nothing that I can't just brush off and carry on with my day though and I'm not going to react and escalate.

Just...

 

///PATRIOT

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So you don't remember yourself as a kid?

I knew i liked girls since i was 4 years old. Most kids know who they like when they're in kindergarten. They just don't have a word for it.
Actually, one can argue that telling a 5-year-old that other kids are sexually attracted to other same sex kids and that you can transfor into your opposite sex can be ending up confusing the kid and have them with a fucking identity crisis by the beginning of their poverty and that's when you hear of some kids changing sex, and getting injected with hormones.

Behind those kids, there are pieces of shit adults and activists, grooming and indoctrinating these kids with their BS.
 

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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Actually, one can argue that telling a 5-year-old that other kids are sexually attracted to other same sex kids and that you can transfor into your opposite sex can be ending up confusing the kid and have them with a fucking identity crisis by the beginning of their poverty and that's when you hear of some kids changing sex, and getting injected with hormones.

Behind those kids, there are pieces of shit adults and activists, grooming and indoctrinating these kids with their BS.
One can argue anything. Can you provide a factual basis for this thing you're saying? Or just pulling nonsense out of your ass?
 

StreetsofBeige

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You see a white and black or brown man fighting... You can't just assume it's not race related because this country is not fully healed and there's a lot of pushback on it.
And that's why the problem persists.

You are someone who would assume there's racism involved, when in reality it might not. So it keeps the racial tone of conflict going.

If I see a white guy and black guy duking it out, first thing I would think is either it's two drunks or one guy tried to mug the other, and the victim is fighting back to keep his wallet.

Why you would assume at first blush it's a racism based fist fight is on you.
 
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DeafTourette

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And that's why the problem persists.

You are someone who would assume there's racism involved, when in reality it might not. So it keeps the racial tone of conflict going.

If I see a white guy and black guy duking it out, first thing I would think is either it's two drunks or one guy tried to mug the other, and the victim is fighting back to keep his wallet.

Why you would assume at first blush it's a racism based fist fight is on you.

You missed MY point... I wasn't talking about myself... I was speaking about how it seems IN THIS COUNTRY based on the history and CURRENT context.

I do want to see what the starting point was but i can quietly assume they're both idiots unless i hear both sides. And a 3rd. It can EQUALLY be racism or drunk idiots... Like Schrodinger's Cat ... It's both until you observe (or are told how it started).

Understand me now?

Edit: why do you think racism exists still because someone might assume that the hypothetical fight started because of racism? That makes no sense.
 
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DeafTourette

Older than air but younger than the foundations of the earth
Actually, one can argue that telling a 5-year-old that other kids are sexually attracted to other same sex kids and that you can transfor into your opposite sex can be ending up confusing the kid and have them with a fucking identity crisis by the beginning of their poverty and that's when you hear of some kids changing sex, and getting injected with hormones.

Behind those kids, there are pieces of shit adults and activists, grooming and indoctrinating these kids with their BS.

Umm... Why are you bringing sex into this?

A CHILD knows at a young age if they like the opposite sex or not. That has NOTHING to do with sex or sexual attraction.

WTF?!?
 

dcll

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Racism exits, will always exist and no one race or country/location has a monopoly on it. People of all races are tribal and shitty sometimes but I think a majority of people are good
 
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Scotty W

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At this point, the cultural revolution is inevitable. Every fact and opinion is twisted into a weapon, and zoomers are Maoist woke zombies. Every institution is captured, and most of the planet is burning with resentment over American meddling in their government.
 

Mistake

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This is so stupid. You just like people when you’re a child - nothing to do with same sex or opposite sex.
Not true. Children form social circles at an early age based on gender. Boys usually play with the boys, girls with girls. Their attention span can also change with adults for the same reason.

As for attraction, I started liking girls as far back as the first grade. Kids can know that too, even if they don’t know why
 

StreetsofBeige

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Some of you must have awesome memories because I dont remember shit all about my elementary school days aside from general stuff like friends, teachers, crushes and things like that. And some things you always remember like fist fights or recess sports.

But for me, I definitely remember having crushes on girls from maybe around grade 3??? Not sure. But I definitely liked girls. And I asked one to be my pair up for grade 6 dance and she said yes. I do remember being a kid and being among of group of neighbour kids (all older) and telling one of them (a blonde I had a crush on) to take off her pants. LOL. I definitely never said that to a dude. As a kid, I got horny watching Three's Company, Benny Hill, and whatever softcore skin flick they showed at midnight showing some tits.

As for kids at a super young age goofing around with toys, for sure I messed around playing with my neighbour's dolls and stuff. Whatever she had in her house I'd play with, so if her stuff was dolls that's all she had. And my house was first year transformers and GIJOE. I dint remember much but I do remember she had a box of Barbie kind of shit and we'd take it out and play with it like kids in her basement and watch TV. I think a lot of kids played with different kinds of toys not because they dont know who they like, but simply that's the only kinds of toys someone might have at their house.
 
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Boss Mog

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And gym class too. Make it mandatory every year in high school. For me, it was mandatory I think grade 9 and 10. But after that you can ditch it and be a fat ass if you want.
Having gone to school in both the US and Europe, the US needs to improve its school lunches dramatically. They actually don't feed you enough in the US but what they feed you is all high calorie garbage and they think that serving it to you with a small carton of milk somehow makes it healthy. A lot of the obesity starts at childhood where kids develop poor eating habits and schools serving nothing but pizza burgers, hotdogs, doesn't help.

I'm not a fan of the Obamas but Michelle Obama did good by trying to get healthy food in US schools.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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Having gone to school in both the US and Europe, the US needs to improve its school lunches dramatically. They actually don't feed you enough in the US but what they feed you is all high calorie garbage and they think that serving it to you with a small carton of milk somehow makes it healthy. A lot of the obesity starts at childhood where kids develop poor eating habits and schools serving nothing but pizza burgers, hotdogs, doesn't help.

I'm not a fan of the Obamas but Michelle Obama did good by trying to get healthy food in US schools.
Funny thing is I'II hear this sometimes in American schools. IMO, I dont get whats so hard to brown bag your lunch. It's cheaper and healthier (assuming it's not just chips and pop).

I guess lots of US schools have lunch offered as part of people's taxes to feed kids who get no lunch at all.

Growing up, none of the schools I went to (elementary, middle and high) had any sort of proper cafeteria. Elementary and middle had juice and cookies offered by lunch ladies at giant wooden fold up tables, and high school was a tiny kitchen the size of someone's living room that had coffee, pizza slices, chips and a coke machine. That's it. And the schools I went to were just normal public schools. Not dumpy, but not ivy league either. Whatever the closest school was to our house I went to.

I dont think it's the norm for kids in Canada to have full service cafeterias with trays of food like you see kids on TV. Who knows, must depend on the school district.
 
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DeafTourette

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Funny thing is I'II hear this sometimes in American schools. IMO, I dont get whats so hard to brown bag your lunch. It's cheaper and healthier (assuming it's not just chips and pop).

I guess lots of US schools have lunch offered as part of people's taxes to feed kids who get no lunch at all.

Growing up, none of the schools I went to (elementary, middle and high) had any sort of proper cafeteria. Elementary and middle had juice and cookies offered by lunch ladies at giant wooden fold up tables, and high school was a tiny kitchen the size of someone's living room that had coffee, pizza slices, chips and a coke machine. That's it. And the schools I went to were just normal public schools. Not dumpy, but not ivy league either. Whatever the closest school was to our house I went to.

I dont think it's the norm for kids in Canada to have full service cafeterias with trays of food like you see kids on TV. Who knows, must depend on the school district.

We have free and low priced food for school kids because many parents either can't afford it or don't have the time to cook and pack it. Being poor in America is a real epidemic no one wants to tackle other than grassroots organizations.
 

DeafTourette

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It also doesn't ban talking about it. It makes them liable to let parents know what they are indoctrinating children with. It bans them keeping it a secret, which only people with a nefarious agenda would take issues with.

Every taxpayer has a right to know. Transparency, amirite?

Ok... So what's the difference between talking men and women relationship but it's different when it's same sex? If kids are kids, why is it ok to talk about and opposite sex romance or that someone has a mom and dad in the house? If a kid has two moms or two dads... That has to be reported to the OTHER parents?

Is it not indoctrination to suggest or teach that heterosexuality is ok and anything else isn't?
 

DeafTourette

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I like Jurnee... Always have. Used to have a crush on her older sister Jazz ... But she knows he lied. I know that's her brother and all but... Naw. He lied. He has to do the time. It's less than a year! There's black and brown folks doing longer time for less serious crimes or no crime! She needs to stop!
 

Panajev2001a

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I like Jurnee... Always have. Used to have a crush on her older sister Jazz ... But she knows he lied. I know that's her brother and all but... Naw. He lied. He has to do the time. It's less than a year! There's black and brown folks doing longer time for less serious crimes or no crime! She needs to stop!
It feels like in her post she is catching herself in a gotcha: X people are incarcerated at a date higher than Y people, person X1 is in jail and… wait… he is innocent, but you do not have to agree he is to believe he should be free because… reasons…
 

BigBooper

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Ok... So what's the difference between talking men and women relationship but it's different when it's same sex? If kids are kids, why is it ok to talk about and opposite sex romance or that someone has a mom and dad in the house? If a kid has two moms or two dads... That has to be reported to the OTHER parents?

Is it not indoctrination to suggest or teach that heterosexuality is ok and anything else isn't?
Are you a groomer? Why do you want to talk to 6 year olds about sex so bad?

Seems like a reasonable sentence. Certainly more than I expected.
 
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Moneal

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Ok... So what's the difference between talking men and women relationship but it's different when it's same sex? If kids are kids, why is it ok to talk about and opposite sex romance or that someone has a mom and dad in the house? If a kid has two moms or two dads... That has to be reported to the OTHER parents?

Is it not indoctrination to suggest or teach that heterosexuality is ok and anything else isn't?
I posted the important part of the bill and a link to the full text. As worded it would prohibit any type of sexual or gender orientation discussion in classroom settings. Ill quote myself for you.
The only bill I know of that you could be talking about says, "prohibits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels" those grade levels being pre-k to 3rd. Heterosexuality would be prohibited as well by the wording of the bill. It doesn't prevent 1 on 1 or even small group discussions of said topics either. You can read the full bill here https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/?Tab=BillText
 

RoboFu

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I personally don’t think he thought this up on his own. Probably why he is scared he will get killed in confinement.
 

ManaByte

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I personally don’t think he thought this up on his own. Probably why he is scared he will get killed in confinement.

Nah he's just a dumbass. He was thinking the victimhood would skyrocket his career to some Oscar bait role.
 

Slaylock

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Jussie Smollett has been placed in the psych ward at the Cook County Jail, and his brother says it's because the official paperwork says Jussie is at risk of self-harm.

Jocqui Smollett hopped on Instagram Saturday, saying, "So Jussie is currently in a psych ward at the Cook County Jail. What's very concerning is that there was a note attached to his paperwork today saying that he's at risk of self-harm."
 

DeafTourette

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He should stay there because his mental state to even DO this is ... Not good.

Maybe Jurnee put that up so he wouldn't unalived himself if he saw it. She wanted him to know she loves him... I don't know. He seems broken inside and he needs help to heal.
 

StreetsofBeige

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Nah he's just a dumbass. He was thinking the victimhood would skyrocket his career to some Oscar bait role.
Exactly.

Lucky for him bogus victimhood claims are slaps on the wrist, so for many people it seems worth it to roll the dice hoping it works

It's like when you hear of women falsely accusing athletes and celebs of sexual assault when its a bogus case. If it was true, the celeb would probably go to jail for 10 years. But what the false accusers get is probably probation or some piddly penalty. Who knows they might even get zero penalty. They definitely dont get a big sentence because you'd hear about it if they did.
 

Redneckerz

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Racial lying should send your ass flying with no denying.

I never found the reason for why he even orchestrated this, outside of being unhappy with Empire or being mentally unwell?

Like, you are an actor, you make decent dough, have a decent life... where in this whole shitshow was there an incentive to make a crime, let alone a hate crime, against oneself?

To fuel the US racial divide a little more? Jussie, the US really didn't need you for that.

Honestly, what was the incentive?
 

Kenpachii

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Racial lying should send your ass flying with no denying.

I never found the reason for why he even orchestrated this, outside of being unhappy with Empire or being mentally unwell?

Like, you are an actor, you make decent dough, have a decent life... where in this whole shitshow was there an incentive to make a crime, let alone a hate crime, against oneself?

To fuel the US racial divide a little more? Jussie, the US really didn't need you for that.

Honestly, what was the incentive?

Attention, dude gets a kick out of it i guess.
 

NickFire

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InfiniteCombo

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where in this whole shitshow was there an incentive to make a crime, let alone a hate crime, against oneself?

To fuel the US racial divide a little more?
You answered your own question.

A lot of those tweets in his defense aged like rotten milk. Several of them were from high profile people -- even from politicians, some of who currently hold some of the highest offices in this land.
 
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