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Hype Is Demon's Souls gameplay a PS5 system seller?

Is Demon Souls Remake a PS5 system seller to you?


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BlackM1st

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Eh, probably yes, it will sell good, but really, what else there to play day 1 that you can call next gen exclusive? AA remake of PS3 game is better than nothing, but it's not new Bloodborne... If only Sony had Gran Turismo on start. Now that's a game you can call a next gen system seller.

I'm personally is all about dat Ratchet goodness.
 

Harry Tung

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It's definitely a system seller for me. Demon's is one of my favorite games of all time so a remake of this caliber is a dream come true. It looks so good, almost unreal, and I've watched the trailers so many times I lost counts. It's the sole reason I'm getting a PS5 at launch, which is rare for me since I almost never buy consoles at launch (last one was Dreamcast). Hype is through the roof!
 

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without a doubt. this is going to be Bloodborne 2 for all intents and purposes. Demon's was already a great game, it was just super obscure and done on 10 year old hardware. now that the Souls formula has been perfected, and we have reached 4k visual quality, this is going to be an incredible experience. i'm looking forward to hundreds of hours in this game alone.
 
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without a doubt. this is going to be Bloodborne 2 for all intents and purposes. Demon's was already a great game, it was just super obscure and done on 10 year old hardware. now that the Souls formula has been perfected, and we have reached 4k visual quality, this is going to be an incredible experience. i'm looking forward to hundreds of hours in this game alone.
It has little in common with Bloodborne.
 

Eliciel

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Not sure souls games are system sellers for 99 percent of gamers.

I want the ps5 black version whenever it gets announced and I'll definitely be picking up demon souls with it so I'm the 1 percent.
bro, you speak my mind. The BLACK MAMBA BLACK PS5 is going to be the only PS5 color that is going to be standing in my appartement, that's for damn sure.
 

laynelane

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Wait what? I platinumed that game and had to restart my character several times because I discovered I had spent too much on one stat and it made all the others way to expensive. The farming got to be way too much. I eventually just googled the best builds

No, you're right. You couldn't re-allocate stats in Demon's Souls. That was only available in Dark Souls 2 and 3.
 

Roronoa Zoro

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No, you're right. You couldn't re-allocate stats in Demon's Souls. That was only available in Dark Souls 2 and 3.
Ah shit looks like stopped playing these games right when my biggest peeve was taken out. I'd make it so far only to figure out that I fucked up and had wasted an tens of hours with a shitty character
 

Roronoa Zoro

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Eh, probably yes, it will sell good, but really, what else there to play day 1 that you can call next gen exclusive? AA remake of PS3 game is better than nothing, but it's not new Bloodborne... If only Sony had Gran Turismo on start. Now that's a game you can call a next gen system seller.

I'm personally is all about dat Ratchet goodness.
I know they're available on ps4 but damn if I'm not hyped for the super super versions of spiderman, MM, and Sackboy. Hell I don't think I've ever played a game at 120fps so I'm kinda hyped for cod just for that as silly as it is. Also have Valhalla preordered as I really like the setting and it's now becoming a tradition as black flag was one of the games I got with my launch ps4 along with shadow fall
 

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If they are adding new bosses and areas, sure it will be something I want to play, but if it’s just the same game, just prettier and better combat. I’m not impressed.
 
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Kokoloko85

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Why yes I DO buy new consoles to play previous gen games.

Did you think Resident Evil 2 remake was a previous gen game.....

Certain fans that dont have a 1st party game for the launch of there new console keep saying and sound retarded.
Halo infinite, now thats your previous gen game lol
 
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Tschumi

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I don't think this is the system seller people expect. It's a remake.. i mean it's fantastic but i think games designed specifically for PS5 are going to blow minds.. the gameplay of demon's souls is implicitly last last gen - the coridoors, slow movement etc - and they can't entirely avoid that. Other games will blow more minds.
 
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Its a great pick for long-time PS fans, and a smart choice to plug the gap for Souls' gameplay while From are finishing up on Elden Ring.

I just pray they managed to somehow get time/permission to patch Bloodborne for PS5. That game will no doubt run at a locked 60fps on PS5 hardware, most likely at a native 4k. would be a shame to leave it as it is, even though the massive jump in cpu and gpu should finally fix any frame-dips/pacing issues.

And lets be real here, if this is a success no doubt Bamco will be knocking at FROM's door for remasters of the trilogy.
 
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LazyParrot

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What is a system seller, anyway? What about Bloodborne? I bought a PS4 because of that game, but it only sold around 3 million copies, so the vast majority of PS4 owners obviously did not. Is it still a system seller? If not, then I doubt a DS remake will be one, either.
 
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Warnen

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Souls games are niche titles, not really a system seller like a Mario 64 or Halo would be. Sure its a game that some hard cores will buy with there PS5 but Spider Man MM will push more PS5 even though its a short DLC spin off and also on PS4
 
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Barakov

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You were the Chosen One, GT7! It was said that you would be a launch title, not a delayed one. Bring the greatness of a true system seller, not leave it to Demon Souls.
C'mon, Polyphony Digital and a timely release just isn't in the cards. I mean it's a nice dream but that shit was never going to happen. :messenger_grinning_smiling:
 
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Vawn

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What is a system seller, anyway? I bought a PS4 because of that game, but it only sold around 3 million copies, so the vast majority of PS4 owners obviously did not. Is it still a system seller?

Which game?
 

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Going to experience the famed Demons Souls for the first time ever and its going to be on a PS5, when I can get one.
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

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Souls games are niche titles, not really a system seller like a Mario 64 or Halo would be. Sure its a game that some hard cores will buy with there PS5 but Spider Man MM will push more PS5 even though its a short DLC spin off and also on PS4
Dark Souls 3 sold over 3 million in less than a month..
Far from niche anymore.
 
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A part of me really wants it but I just don't think there's enough on the PS5 up front for me to go launch day. There's already so much going on and I can run CoD Cold War on PC at similar settings.
 
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Dolomite

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I won't buy a PS5 day one for demon souls...or any remake for that matter. But I'll definitely pick Demon souls up when I eventually grab a PS5 down the line
 
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Guaranteed this game will be sold out among retailers at least twice before Christmas. There’s usually a restock in December. I’m not sure if there’s a 3rd but if there is there’s a chance it will be sold out through the holidays.
 
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Barakov

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DSR is definitely something I want to play and own a PS5 for. But as far as a true system seller? Spiderman more likely fits that bill. The Souls games have all the hardcore gamer cred but the normies will flock to Spiderman MM like a fly to flyaper.
 
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FrankWza

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What is a system seller, anyway? What about Bloodborne? I bought a PS4 because of that game, but it only sold around 3 million copies, so the vast majority of PS4 owners obviously did not. Is it still a system seller? If not, then I doubt a DS remake will be one, either.
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yeah, I would say it’s something like uncharted for ps or halo forxb or a smash bros for nintendo. Something with a high attach rate. But demons souls will have a high attach rate For the launch window at least.
 
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Claus Grimhildyr

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Nah. Add checkpoints and let you keep currency and make it possible to take back stat allocations or make only stats you increase cost more. Or hell just the last one would be good for me

At that point, just have an "I win" button. Press X and the game plays itself.

The game is meticiously designed around its stat system and soul currency. This was explained to you ad nauseum in the other thread. Changing it would completely break the game.
 
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LazyParrot

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But demons souls will have a high attach rate For the launch window at least.
That's true, but that's mostly because it's one of only three (I think?) PS5 console exclusives available at launch. People want something they can only play on their new console, and they'll get whatever they can get. So it's the system selling the game, not the other way around.
 
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Claus Grimhildyr

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Ah shit looks like stopped playing these games right when my biggest peeve was taken out. I'd make it so far only to figure out that I fucked up and had wasted an tens of hours with a shitty character

You can beat the game at level 1 with zero upgrades pretty easily. There isn't any real way to make a "shitty" character. If you were struggling, it is because you were impatient and failed to read the boss tells. No amount of stats would change that or make it easier.
 

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At that point, just have an "I win" button. Press X and the game plays itself.

The game is meticiously designed around its stat system and soul currency. This was explained to you ad nauseum in the other thread. Changing it would completely break the game.
Yes that opinion was explained. I happen to still disagree. And note I'm not asking the enemies to pack any less punch or increase health or make the player invincible or anything else that your first sentence would require to even be remotely true. The game would be just as difficult but less broken to make you go back to start every time. It's right back to the hard part you lost on with the same health you got to it on before. Just as hard and just as much chance you'll die again unless you've improved.
 

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its beautiful! but a system seller? come on, same fucking game just prettier? someone help me understand this?
 
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its beautiful! but a system seller? come on, same fucking game just prettier? someone help me understand this?

Alot of people will buy it due to the pretty visuals. But then again it's a really old and there are many people who haven't played it yet. Then there's the fans that want to relive the experience with a fresh coat of paint. Combined that with it being a launch title it's a no brainier that people will pick this up with their PS5s. Which is what I'm doing btw.

Give me a like if your doing the same.
 
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I mean, sure it's a system seller for some people.. But generally? Casuals aren't gonna play it, surely? Or?
 

iJudged

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Alot of people will buy it due to the pretty visuals. But then again it's a really old and there are many people who haven't played it yet. Then there's the fans that want to relive the experience with a fresh coat of paint. Combined that with it being a launch title it's a no brainier that people will pick this up with their PS5s. Which is what I'm doing btw.

Give me a like if your doing the same.
you get a heart, no like! Day 1 on ps5 but will pass on the DS. Played it, finished it, have no intention on doing it again just cause its pretty, which it is, and also losing a controller in the process....

something like this lol
 
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you get a heart, no like! Day 1 on ps5 but will pass on the DS. Played it, finished it, have no intention on doing it again just cause its pretty, which it is, and also losing a controller in the process....

something like this lol

I understand if you're not picking it up. But it is a very pretty looking game and Soulsbourne type games are loved my many. So it's only logical that those people will buy the PS5 with the game.
 
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