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Opinion Cringe Retro Is Alien vs. Predator Jaguar open-world or nahh?

Is Alien vs. Predator Jaguar open-world or nahh?

  • yeah, absolutely.

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • nahh, not at all, it is still the same key hunting.

    Votes: 23 35.4%
  • It's Metroidvania-esque

    Votes: 7 10.8%
  • more open than most FPS back then, but not enough to be called open-world

    Votes: 30 46.2%
  • I have another opinion that will write in the comments

    Votes: 3 4.6%

  • Total voters
    65

MvCSpiderman

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If those two games or any other are build on open world core. Then they are open world too among other elements that make them as the whole.

Remember. One world without a level progression.
There are vast open world games with level progression, are those now suddenly not open world?
 

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The only problem is that this scenario never occurred. Although, maybe under the stone where you live, but certainly not in the reality that you supposedly appreciate so much.

You've been taught better not only by me but by pretty much everyone here. Just because you don't accept reality doesn't mean that I or anyone else here suffers from cognitive dissonance, a term the meaning of which you obviously don't even understand and ironically only applies to yourself. You never used facts and actual evidence/actual facts you rejected on the grounds that all are wrong based on your purely subjective feelings.

And if you think of this as playing the violin, then you played shit.

What scenario? You manipulating me into your false agenda? LMAO

Nope. I schooled kiddies here. None of you have solid arguments besides nonsense. That is why it was easy to expose you.

You and others still did not prove that AvP
1. is FPS
2. isn't built on open world core.

Let me know when you have solid arguments.
 
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molasar

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There are vast open world games with level progression, are those now suddenly not open world?

By level progression I mean that you go from start to exit in each level to progress (not experience level), e.g. Wolf3D or Doom. No such thing in Jag's AvP.
 
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You manipulating me into your false agenda?
Sure, my "agenda"... :messenger_tears_of_joy:

There is a worldwide conspiracy going on with the goal to make pretty much everyone think of AVP as an FPS, and you are the chosen one who has spooned the wisdom and will free us from this agenda.
 

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Sure, my "agenda"... :messenger_tears_of_joy:

There is a worldwide conspiracy going on with the goal to make pretty much everyone think of AVP as an FPS, and you are the chosen one who has spooned the wisdom and will free us from this agenda.

You should stop your pathetic tirade as you failed to produce anything significant.
 
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Let me know when you have solid arguments.
all your "arguments" are this:

 
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And your pathetic tirade continues.

LMAO

You can't change the truth.
You are the only person who sees this as the "truth" and you attack anyone who disagrees.

Still, fail to see the irony in literally anything you say?

I know you don't because your self-awareness is lower than the titanic.
 

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first-person open worldish
I suppose back then it did feel like it was open world.
 

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Normally i feel bad when someone gets dogpiled like that no matter how shitty his opinions are. But he seems to enjoy the beating so i guess it's a fun read.

Keep digging that hole.
 
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first-person open worldish
I suppose back then it did feel like it was open world.
games with huge open worlds existed back then too.
those released the same year as AVP:

AVP plays in a small self-contained area build entirely of indoor corridors. The progression is non-linear but other than that it doesn't fit the description of an open-world game and calling it an open-world is a reach.

if there is a game that could be considered open world on the Jaguar that actually is in first person, it would be Iron Soldier:
 

molasar

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Normally i feel bad when someone gets dogpiled like that no matter how shitty his opinions are. But he seems to enjoy the beating so i guess it's a fun read.

Keep digging that hole.

The thing is that I present facts, not uninformed opinions like you.

Keep digging that hole, Doom zealot.
 

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Hah it’s like water off a duck’s back.

I’d love to know what this sacred truth he keeps talking about is. It must be earth shattering for us to be so naive.
 

molasar

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games with huge open worlds existed back then too.
those released the same year as AVP:

AVP plays in a small self-contained area build entirely of indoor corridors. The progression is non-linear but other than that it doesn't fit the description of an open-world game and calling it an open-world is a reach.

if there is a game that could be considered open world on the Jaguar that actually is in first person, it would be Iron Soldier:

Lol. They looked like shit in comparison to Jag's AvP.

And you have proven again that AvP is small and built from indoor corridors. As a proof what happens when you leave a cell in the brig? What happens when you leave the brig? Is the canteen a corridor? What is the layout of sub-level 3 floor? Huh, spongy, can answer these questions?

Do you want to compare your small examples to No Man's Sky? Come on spongy, use your brain.

You do not have a clue what you talk about.
 

molasar

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Hah it’s like water off a duck’s back.

I’d love to know what this sacred truth he keeps talking about is. It must be earth shattering for us to be so naive.

I am still waiting when you and other kiddies will prove that:

- Jag's AvP is a dedicated FPS like Wolf3D and Doom,
- it is not built on open world core, i.e. a logic space base and two spacecrafts docked to it. Just use maps available on internet to prove it.

Take your time. I will wait.
 

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I am still waiting when you and other kiddies will prove that:

- Jag's AvP is a dedicated FPS like Wolf3D and Doom,
- it is not built on open world core, i.e. a logic space base and two spacecrafts docked to it. Just use maps available on internet to prove it.

Take your time. I will wait.
Molly you are a treasure; nkarafo is right, it’s been a great read. If that is all you are concerned with then you lead a pretty sheltered life. What is the next injustice that you are going to tackle? The UN should have you on retainer.
 
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Molly you are a treasure; nkarafo is right, it’s been a great read. If that is all you are concerned with then you lead a pretty sheltered life. What is the next injustice that you are going to tackle? The UN should have you on retainer.
Who knew the guy who wrote the manual would be this important for describing a game even though every web site, magazine and gamer describes AVP as a FPS.
 

molasar

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😂😂😂

Thanks for making this thread such a funny read. I hope it gets a few more pages before the inevitable lock. But maybe the mods are having fun too.

🤡🤡🤡

Yes, it is funny to read because you do not have any valid arguments against mine.

Molly you are a treasure; nkarafo is right, it’s been a great read. If that is all you are concerned with then you lead a pretty sheltered life. What is the next injustice that you are going to tackle? The UN should have you on retainer.

Karen, I am not interested in your whining. Go bother your own man.

I guess being old in age doesn't wise up everybody. Thanks for the proof.

You were never good at guessing.
 

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Who knew the guy who wrote the manual would be this important for describing a game even though every web site, magazine and gamer describes AVP as a FPS.

Really. Then prove that every web site, magazine and gamer describes are correct about it and it is supported in their reviews, i.e. they explain why it is an FPS and something else.
Also that they pointed out that the devs themselves were wrong about their own game and did not advertised it in official tv commercial, posters, magazine adverts, game box, manual as such.

It will be very interesting to see.
 

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Yeah, it is kinda hard to watch. It really runs slow as hell. A source port to the PC could make this enjoyable again, but debate lord molasar molasar doesn't like games to run at a reasonable speed.

It is laughable that in times when access to information is so easy there are still mindless drones.

How does it feel spongy that you discovered that Jag's AvP is not a dedicated FPS? And it never was.

LMAO
 

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What's funnier is that the manual doesn't even describe the game. It tells it's story.

Nope. It clearly states what it is. They just integrated it into the game for better immersion.

The story in the game is presented by intro, character screen, computer logs and outro.
 
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And you disproven yourself as you always do.

Uh, oh, who was correct no? Come on spongy, admit it. LMAO

You just proved my comment, how ironic.
We have a building full of corridors that are connected to each other. That there are rooms with actual purpose here doesn't change that in the slightest. They are still connected with corridors. Have you ever seen a building or do you live in AVP's game world and believe that is real life?

For transparency, let's compare that to a real open-world game from the same year:


and here is one of its towns:
 
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It is laughable that in times when access to information is so easy there are still mindless drones.
Information you refuse to accept, ehh?

How does it feel moly, to be so disconnected with real-life, ehh?

How does it feel moly, to finally come to terms with reality, ehh?

...oh wait, you'll never come to terms with reality because you're braindead and everybody that doesn't take your borderline schizophrenic takes for granted will be seen as an "m1nDlesS dR00nE". Oh well...
 

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You just proved my comment, how ironic.
We have a building full of corridors that are connected to each other. That there are rooms with actual purpose here doesn't change that in the slightest. They are still connected with corridors. Have you ever seen a building or do you live in AVP's game world and believe that is real life?

For transparency, let's compare that to a real open-world game from the same year:


and here is one of its towns:

So what don't you understand? That action happens in the whole space base and two spacecrafts docked to it? Do you expect access to outer space too?

Do you want me to bring No Man's Sky again and do comparison with your laughable small maps.

Come on spongy. I want more of your nonsense.
 

molasar

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Information you refuse to accept, ehh?

How does it feel moly, to be so disconnected with real-life, ehh?

How does it feel moly, to finally come to terms with reality, ehh?

...oh wait, you'll never come to terms with reality because you're braindead and everybody that doesn't take your borderline schizophrenic takes for granted will be seen as an "m1nDlesS dR00nE". Oh well...

Cognitive dissonance and projection of delusional kiddo again.

How does it feel to be exposed spongy?

Do you need more toxins in your blood to get high?

Like I told you from the very beginning you can't win this battle on lies.

LMAO
 
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Like I told you from the very beginning you can't win this battle on lies.
I thought this wasn't about winning to you? Now it is? Great how you change your principles as fast as they come.

And please, use the age of wisdom and data transfer to finally look up what cognitive dissonance means. You obviously don't have a single clue and it hurts seeing someone as profound delusional as you lose even more IQ.
 

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lol, Elder Scrolls Arena is like literally ten thousand times bigger than AVP. You officially lost your mind completely.

And it looks worse, more repetitive, is a dedicated RPG, is bigger in file size.

You lost spongy. You did not prove that AvP is FPS and not built on open world core. Also you did not prove it is based on illogical corridors that connect hubs. Obviously it was created the way it represents something functional in real world. Do you want to tell me what other sub-level floors look like in AvP?

LMAO
 

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I thought this wasn't about winning to you? Now it is? Great how you change your principles as fast as they come.

And please, use the age of wisdom and data transfer to finally look up what cognitive dissonance means. You obviously don't have a single clue and it hurts seeing someone as profound delusional as you lose even more IQ.

It is not for me. It is you who wanted to win this with all your lies and manipulations.

You do not know what Jag's AvP is. Thus cognitive dissonance.

But you have my sympathies because your lack of brains.

LMAO
 
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And it looks worse, more repetitive, is a dedicated RPG, is bigger in file size.

You lost spongy. You did not prove that AvP is FPS and not built on open world core. Also you did not prove it is based on illogical corridors that connect hubs. Obviously it was created the way it represents something functional in real world. Do you want to tell me what other sub-level floors look like in AvP?

LMAO
lol, cognitive dissonance and projecting of delusional thoughts again.