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Intel, Still King In Gaming.
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llien
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My condolesces for Intel's butt getting thoroughly kicked, Leonidas.
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AMD's Ryzen 3000 Review Thread: More Cores, More Threads.
Preliminary Reviews/ Preview and Leaked Benchmarks https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-and-ryzen-7-3700x-cpu-review-leak-gaming-benchmarks/ Reviews
Insane Metal
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Dude, are you ok? You seem to be trying really hard to make Intel noticed while AMD is coming back from the ashes... it's ok to have your favorite company out of focus for a while. Everything will be ok.
Leonidas
Member
Not in gaming, Intel still holds the title of fastest gaming CPU.
Leonidas
Member
Who knows, but Zen 3 vs Ice Lake should be interesting whenever that battle takes place. Then Skylake will finally fall after 5+ years of being the fastest architecture for gaming.
LordJohnWick
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Love live KINGtel.
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llien
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Yeah, that 2% lead vs $150 cheaper CPU will show 'em!
Leonidas
Member
I'm fine, just thought I'd point out something that I've said all along but got a bit of flack for...
Leonidas
Member
3900x is slightly more expensive than 9900K/9900KF. 9900K is faster in gaming at a lower price.
nowhat
Member
Going forward, that will change though.
I think the weak Jaguar cores of the current gen were really a blessing in disguise for multi-core engines in general and AMD in particular. The single-threaded performance is so piss-poor that studios must utilize many cores to get any reasonable results.
llien
Member
3700x, on the other hand, is $329, price diff to 9900k allows you to go from 5700 (that thoroughly kicks 2060's butt, at $349) to 5700XT anniversary edition (should be at around 2070 super levels)
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Insane Metal
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Yeah, 2% faster while losing 10% or more on pretty much all the rest. Makes sense.
Leonidas
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And 9700KF is $380. Faster than 3900X (which AMD described as gaming CPU) with over $100 saving.
Your argument is weak.
This is a gaming forum so I thought I'd make a thread about the thing that is most relevant to the forum.
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DeepEnigma
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Amazing I knew who’s thread this was before even clicking on it.
Bonfires Down
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I hate Intel and I hope AMD buries them, but Intel processors are still the best deal for gaming for the most part.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Even gaming-wise, AMD trumps Intel in value. I'm not paying extra money for a miniscule performance boost when I can easily use that money for other components or buy a new game.
The Mad Draklor
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Ironically, what he has accomplished instead was bringing more attention to the Ryzen 3000 CPUs.
Horsemama1956
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I would imagine like 95% of gamers wouldnt notice the difference between AMD and Intel the last few years. Intel switching up chipsets so iften now kind of elimates any value they had as well.
Havent really been an Intel fan since since the i3 lost relevance. $200 Ryzen has been plenty for me.
Leonidas
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3900X at $500 trades blows with 7700K in gaming, so yeah I guess they did catch a 30 month old Intel CPU.
A bit slower than the cheaper 9700KF though.
Spartancarver 117
Banned
Lol yes let me pay $100+ more for a hotter, more power-hungry, less future-proof, less useful processor for <5% performance gain in CPU-bound games
The spin is so, so painful OP
The spin is so, so painful OP
Spartancarver 117
Banned
Was he? The spin was obvious from miles away in almost all of his recent threads IMO
Tomeru
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I dont think you mean what you think you mean. Unless 2% is worth upwards of 100$.
JareBear: Remastered
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For the price it seems like the 3900x is a great deal?
Leonidas
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For gaming performance it's a terrible value. 9700KF is faster and $120 cheaper.
3900x is the worst value Ryzen CPU in terms of gaming performance right now.
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Ivellios
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Yeah, I9 9900K may win by ~2% in raw performance, so congratulations on the victory of being the gaming CPU king.
But in Price/Performance, nothing Intel have comes close to Ryzen 3700X.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
So the 3700x is the better value? I think I got mixed up.
That was the plan.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
The 3700X is the best bang for buck CPU at the moment. Yes.
The Mad Draklor
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
This cannot be overstated enough. The savings you get by going with the 3700X can easily be spent toward a higher tier GPU.
kegkilla
Banned
Unless the rumored price cuts come to realization.
DigiTimes: Intel to Slash Desktop Processor Pricing up to 15 Percent as Ryzen 3000 Nears
DigiTimes reported today, citing sources at motherboard makers, that Intel plans to cut the pricing of its eighth- and ninth-gen processors by 10-15% and has already notified its partners of the change.
Being a single percentage point faster doesn't make the i9 9900k good value for money either. If all you care about is gaming performance, why would you pay that extra $100 for 1% more performance at 1080p?
The 3900X is intended for people that game and also need great multithreaded performance, but the i9 9900k has no such redeeming qualities. If you only care about gaming, buy an i7 9700k or 3700X. If you care about gaming and multithreaded performance, buy a 3900X.
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UltimaKilo
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I just do t see them as competitors. It’s like Amazon Fire Tablet vs iPad. There’s a market for AMD in the budget category and for Intel in the professional and enthusiast space.
Leonidas
Member
If you're spending $380 or more on a CPU Intel is simply faster in gaming.
AMD is better value on the lower end, but Intel also competes decently down there too in terms of gaming.
Silent Viper
Banned
We hav cpu fanboys now. Man fuck
I go with whichever reliable and cheap and can give me solid 60 fps
I go with whichever reliable and cheap and can give me solid 60 fps
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DW74
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A market ruled by Nvidia and Intel would look a lot different than it does today. Hello $5k computers! (again)
AMD is necessary, and rooting for them to do poorly is lame, at best. I am glad to see them back making relevant products again. I miss the 90s when there were multiple relevant makers of cpu's and gpu's. It made things more interesting.
AMD is necessary, and rooting for them to do poorly is lame, at best. I am glad to see them back making relevant products again. I miss the 90s when there were multiple relevant makers of cpu's and gpu's. It made things more interesting.
SonGoku
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Manufacturing CPUs in 2019 using 2015 architecture with more holes than Swiss cheese its nothing to brag about.
Either they are very incompetent to the point a company with one tenth the resources caught up to them or they just don't give a fuck anymore and will continue milking customers
Thank god for amd, otherwise we'll still be stuck with $400 quad cores and $600 hexacores.
Imagine celebrating intels sheer incompetence and greediness, at least nvidia despite their markups still develops top of the line architectures in absence of competition.
Either they are very incompetent to the point a company with one tenth the resources caught up to them or they just don't give a fuck anymore and will continue milking customers
Thank god for amd, otherwise we'll still be stuck with $400 quad cores and $600 hexacores.
Imagine celebrating intels sheer incompetence and greediness, at least nvidia despite their markups still develops top of the line architectures in absence of competition.
Imagine spending $400 on a CPU to game at 720p
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The Mad Draklor
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And that extra money put towards marginally faster performance isn't worth it. I can use that money to go up a tier in the GPU department, for example. That also affects overall gaming performance.
The 3700X has the best value and very good gaming performance that is competitive against the 9700K.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Everything you need in the size of a cookie
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Thats what the belief is. We really don't know.
PhoenixTank
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The silence on scaling up 10nm+ beyond 4 cores is deafening.
Armorian
Banned
There are many (same for GPU), but GAF is filled with console fanboys so they're rarely seen