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Intel Introduces New High-Performance Graphics Brand: Intel Arc

The new graphics brand will cover hardware, software and services. The first silicon will appear in products in the first quarter of 2022, in both mobile and desktop form factors.

www.intel.com

Intel today revealed the brand for its upcoming consumer high-performance graphics products: Intel® Arc™. The Arc brand will cover hardware, software and services, and will span multiple hardware generations, with the first generation, based on the Xe HPG microarchitecture, code-named Alchemist (formerly known as DG2). Intel also revealed the code names of future generations under the Arc brand: Battlemage, Celestial and Druid.

Xe-LP, HP and HPC microarchitectures, that will deliver scalability and compute efficiency with advanced graphics features. Alchemist, the first generation of Intel Arc products, will feature hardware-based ray tracing and artificial intelligence-driven super sampling, and offer full support for DirectX 12 Ultimate.

Good to see that they have implemented AI Super Sampling.

 

[AJUMP23]

Onboard graphics designed to compliment your high end GPU.

 

[mansoor1980]

man i am excited for this .

 

[Interfectum]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

 

[Zathalus]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

The colour blue.

 

[Trogdor1123]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

Hopefully increased production...

 

[SaturnSaturn]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

A bunch of paid shills

 

[JCK75]

Xe-LP sounds like the pronouns on the twitter profile of Reason Magazine writers.

 

[michaelius]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

Products designed by architect who made worst gpus in AMD history. Expect same "universal" compute architecture here with low gaming efficiency.
And driver team that makes AMD look professional.

 

[iHaunter]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

More optimization with their CPUs perhaps. Maybe Intel will make their own motherboards again and have a solution where all of their hardware work more fluidly.

Competition is ALWAYS good.

 

[Interfectum]

Products designed by architect who made worst gpus in AMD history. Expect same "universal" compute architecture here with low gaming efficiency.
And driver team that makes AMD look professional.

So I take it you won't be buying their merch?

 

[elliot5]

Will be interesting to see how this pans out. More competition is needed. Would be funny if AMD ends up on top for CPU and Intel ends up on top for GPU.

 

[Md Ray]

Bring on the competition!

GeForce™ vs. Radeon™ vs. Arc™

 

[alabtrosMyster]

The colour blue.

 

[Armorian]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

3rd player in high end GPU space, much needed...

Products designed by architect who made worst gpus in AMD history. Expect same "universal" compute architecture here with low gaming efficiency.
And driver team that makes AMD look professional.

You say that Vega is worse than Nvidia FX?

 

[Fuz]

The colour blue.

Now we have the whole RGB.

 

[Kuranghi]

Great since not everyone can afford a discrete card but what the actual fuck is this reveal video, I'm flabbergasted at how shit it is.

Lets count the sins:

• Vertical video
• Shitty Twitter re-re-re-re-encode
• 30 fps
• Veritical de-sync in video for whatever reason (might just be the encode and not how the game looks running)
• Constant stuttering

This is a moronic way to debut footage of games running on your new HW, even on a phone you can see most of the issues I pointed out. I'm not mad I'm just...

 

[Kuranghi]

Xe-LP sounds like the pronouns on the twitter profile of Reason Magazine writers.

I thought it kinda sounded like the catalogue number for a breakcore vinyl.

 

[Holammer]

Is that a Starfield teaser at the end of the gameplay video?

 

[onesvenus]

Having a new architecture support all DX12U features means great support for XSX features.

 

[PhoenixTank]

Not being snarky but did I miss something? They just changed the name/brand and there was nothing of real substance anywhere there... AI SS is kinda news but not ready to show?

 

[SantaC]

Hopefully increased production...

It is on TSMC 7nm

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Arc is a cooler name than Xe at least.

Although I wish they would’ve done this reveal on a stage with a bunch of hip hop dancers or something. That would’ve made it extra cool.

 

[Kenpachii]

RT in metro tho.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

It is on TSMC 7nm

I thought they were going with 5nm? Well, plans can change.

Hoping their own fabs upgrade within the next year or so, and if they manage to buy Global Foundries that could open up for some increased production as well (maybe not for these GPUs, but 3P chips would benefit greatly).

Dat Psychonauts 2 is looking amazing btw

 

[PSlayer]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

onboard graphics is the thing that i am most hyped for. I don't expect their first gen GPUs to match Amd/Nvidia but their igpus were pretty good(specially for laptop gamming).

 

[jaysius]

They say this bullshit every time they launch a new generation of motherboard don't they?

Also Intel, it's interesting to flex graphical fidelity in a potato quality Twitter video.

 

[VolticArchangel]

If they're fabbing this on their own, then yes, amazing news, actual "competition".

But if they're eating into the already constrained TSMC/Samsung wafers who have multiple clients already in their backorders, then they can fuck right off to the moon, and it won't be anything other than a blue of Nvidia/AMD paint, mimicking their same business practices like catering to miners and gaining positive PR via YouTube shills for performance.

 

[Mister Wolf]

AMD is in trouble.

 

[M1chl]

It's 30FPS, if that's what they can do it, I am not impressed.

 

[Black_Stride]

Products designed by architect who made worst gpus in AMD history. Expect same "universal" compute architecture here with low gaming efficiency.
And driver team that makes AMD look professional.

You say that Vega is worse than Nvidia FX?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

It is on TSMC 7nm

lmao

seriously?

 

[SantaC]

AMD is in trouble.

It comes out the same year as RDNA3

 

[Black_Stride]

AMD is in trouble.

Dont we already know the round about performance of the big DGP2 (Alchemist) and it was around an RTX 3070 in rasterization.

The only way AMD could be in real trouble is if Intels AI Super Sampling is actually good and they have beyond AMD levels of Raytracing.
Else I think AMD will remain exactly where it is.
Second place by a large margin in terms of market share.

The presentation for those that dont want to watch the embed versions vv

 

[Kenpachii]

3070 is mighty fine, they will competitive in the GPU space.

 

[SlimySnake]

What are the specs? Who announces a new GPU like this? Even integrated GPUs nowadays can run those video games.

 

[Black_Stride]

What are the specs? Who announces a new GPU like this? Even integrated GPUs nowadays can run those video games.

The Alchemist is supposedly 512 Execution Units and 16GBs of VRAM guessing GDDR6.

Target performance is around RTX 3070 levels in rasterization.
No idea performance in Raytracing.
Their AI Super Sampling is likely not going to be ready for launch so for now who gives a shit.

I am slightly intrigued by their DeepLink tech with Alderlakes uprated GPU performance it could give marginal but still useful gains in GPU tasks:

P.S Def not jumping on the Intel GPU wagon as CUDA is King but I am happy to have other midrange GPUs on the market.

 

[BattleScar]

AMD is in trouble.

How?

 

[tkscz]

AMD is in trouble.

Intel is the new comer with a bad reputation for graphic technology. Right now they're striking during a GPU shortage so they'll see success, but it's unknown if that success can hold.

 

[Armorian]

Fuck...

 

[SlimySnake]

The Alchemist is supposedly 512 Execution Units and 16GBs of VRAM guessing GDDR6.

Target performance is around RTX 3070 levels in rasterization.
No idea performance in Raytracing.
Their AI Super Sampling is likely not going to be ready for launch so for now who gives a shit.

I am slightly intrigued by their DeepLink tech with Alderlakes uprated GPU performance it could give marginal but still useful gains in GPU tasks:

P.S Def not jumping on the Intel GPU wagon as CUDA is King but I am happy to have other midrange GPUs on the market.

3070 is not bad. Especially if it can outperform the 3070 when paired up with Gen 4 CPUs and mobos. I recently just got an i7-11700k and while I am really upset at just how power inefficient it is and how hot it runs, I am intrigued to see if Gen 4 PCIE an actually offer some efficiency gains.

 

[Skifi28]

Almost sounds like April came early.

 

[John Wick]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

Competition.

 

[Kenpachii]

Intel will be skipping pci-e 4.0, next year is 5.0 and they will make use of it most likely with there arc gpu's.

3070 is indeed not bad, its basically a 2080ti that isn't far behind a 3080 its leagues ahead of consoles. If RT is on equal level and they have a DLSS solution. they are basically already in the race specially if they can drop tons of chips as 7nm will probably freed up at tsmc next year and money hat games for support. They will be when RDNA3 and 40 series comes out probably in the low end segment at that point, but those chips will release later.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Competition.

You actually have to be capable enough to compete in order to deliver competition in any context. For Intel, this remains to be seen so far.

This is a common misconception I see on the internet.

Competition =/= just showing up. You actually have to be competitive with your offering.

 

[Amiga]

What does Intel bring to the table that Nvidia and AMD do not?

Intel have stronger retail relations. you will get their stuff shoved in your face more often.

 

[LazyParrot]

Intel will be skipping pci-e 4.0, next year is 5.0 and they will make use of it most likely with there arc gpu's.

How will they make use of it? I highly doubt whatever cards they put out will even manage to saturate PCIe 3.0.

 

[Kenpachii]

How will they make use of it? I highly doubt whatever cards they put out will even manage to saturate PCIe 3.0.

It won't saturate they just won't focus on it and move to pci-e 5.0 solutions.

 

[Chiggs]

Thrilled to see some positive news coming out of Intel. Come on, boys--you took your beating, now get back in there and fight!

 

[LazyParrot]

It won't saturate they just won't focus on it and move to pci-e 5.0 solutions.

I dunno, I think there's a difference between supporting PCIe 5.0 on paper and making use of it (i.e. actually utilizing the additional bandwidth it provides). These new Intel cards might do the former, but they sure as hell won't be doing the latter.