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Opinion News Indie Indie Dev Josh Loveridge about Playstation 4K rumour 'Just propaganda, no truth to that' - Including full interview.

MastaKiiLA

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Sony has always courted indie devs, and have developed a good program for them. It's probably one of the best decisions Sony made early on, as indie games are among my favorites on any PS platform. However, you're not exactly covering yourself in glory by making statements that can be taken as antagonistic by the fanbase of another system. It doesn't serve you well to build up one platform by tearing down another. So I understand the negative feedback this dev is getting for the interview.
 

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Well, he doesn't lie. It's obvious something is wrong over at Xbox. With how many notable studios and exclusives they shut down this gen. The games that actually did release were, for the most part, of mediocre quality. Then, their biggest exclusive for this gen looks like a 360 launch game rendered at 4K. And they presented it like it was something to be proud of. There's a reason PS5 has 10x the hype as the XSX.
 

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Sony has always courted indie devs, and have developed a good program for them. It's probably one of the best decisions Sony made early on, as indie games are among my favorites on any PS platform. However, you're not exactly covering yourself in glory by making statements that can be taken as antagonistic by the fanbase of another system. It doesn't serve you well to build up one platform by tearing down another. So I understand the negative feedback this dev is getting for the interview.

Platform holders should have a clause in their indie agreement that if you get a devkit from them and make public stagements against a competitor acting as if you work for the platform holder; you lose your devkit and license. That'll shut up fanboys real quick.
 

Boss Mog

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Talks literally like a Sony fanboy.

This thread is going to be liked around here.
As opposed to what? The threads about indie devs saying series X is better? They're just as much clickbait bullshit as this is afaic. At the end of the day I'm sure they won't be that different, but in terms of what has been shown so far Sony is clearly ahead, so much so that Halo infinite is being delayed because it clearly wasn't up to par.
 
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There are also hundreds of Sony discords, but somehow their existence hasn’t been used to justify the most ridiculous conspiracy theories ever

I've seen the screens of the Xbox discord and the individuals that typically spread fud are in it like TimDog, Duke Bluebells and Colbert for example.

I haven't seen anything evidence to prove theres a discord of Sony fans making that stuff up.

You have to admit it's really strange that when FUD gets spread around on Twitter it's always the same people. And this happened multiple times BTW.
 
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Nah, this is when rumors of a Dreamcast 2 arise!

Come on guys let's hold hands and bring the Dreamcast back.

 

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CAN WE STOP TO TAKE DEVELOPERS, THAT MADE MAYBE 1 OR 2 EXCLUSIVE SHITTY INDY GAMES, AS A SOURCE FOR INFORMATION?

Oh so now you speak up. Huh, fancy that.

P.S. Not Hellpoint Dev, not listening. Lalala I can't hear you.
 
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It's so asinine for anyone to think PS5 can't do 4K let alone 1080p. Dude PS4 Pro did 4K(albeit via checkerboard which was closer to 4K in many cases). Nice to see people ignoring such fud from much youtubers
 
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It's so asinine for anyone to think PS5 can't do 4K let alone 1080p. Dude PS4 Pro did 4K(albeit via checkerboard which was closer to 4K in many cases). Nice to see people ignoring such fud from much youtubers
Just as asinine to say Microsoft does not allow creative freedom now under Booty. Both ninja theory and obsidian entertainment are each doing 2 passion projects. The head of inexile said he is allowed freedom on his next game his pitch was literally a minute and Booty said get to work. This is not the old Microsoft that is forced thier vision on teams.
 
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Oh so now you speak up. Huh, fancy that.

P.S. Not Hellpoint Dev, not listening. Lalala I can't hear you.

what do you mean? I said this multiple times.
who was that one dude on the Xbox side early on? I instantly said that people who listen to him are fucking stupid as a rock and that he's obviously trying to promote his shitty ass game to Xbots.
 

DeepEnigma

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what do you mean? I said this multiple times.
who was that one dude on the Xbox side early on? I instantly said that people who listen to him are fucking stupid as a rock and that he's obviously trying to promote his shitty ass game to Xbots.
 

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What is it with shitty game developers giving their biased opinions? I've seen quite the variety of games on both systems. That being said, his +game is nothing special and I won't be purchasing it on my PS5.
 
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What is it with shitty game developers giving their biased opinions? I've seen quite the variety of games on both systems. That being said, his +game is nothing special and I won't be purchasing it on my PS5.
Trying to sell their game to warriors and fan boys by telling them what they want to hear. Target marketing as I see it.
 

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Ratchet couldn't be done on XSX, unless you're ok to wait twice as long each time you see Ratchet fall between dimensions, which would be very quickly unbearable because it aready takes 2 to 3 seconds on PS5. There's more than 100 % speed difference in SSD I/O.

The mechanism (teleportation between worlds) can definitely be done technically on XSX due to the SSD, but it wouldn't work in game because it would be too slow. Unless you manage to cut assets size in some way, but then it won't look as good as Ratchet.
Your entire point is invalidated because the Medium exists... it's literally go between worlds the game.
 
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What is it with shitty game developers giving their biased opinions? I've seen quite the variety of games on both systems. That being said, his +game is nothing special and I won't be purchasing it on my PS5.
At least now we know that the ps5 can handle shitty games at 4k60. It's a step forward AAA@4k60 confirmation!
There is still 3 months for that.
 

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Ehh. Medium is rendering two worlds at one time, not jumping between many different levels/worlds within a few seconds.

Plus, it all depends on the assets size in the worlds. Of course XSX can do that, just with half the assets size or twice the transition length.
 

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1. An indie dev making a PS exclusive.

2.Although this doesn't confirm anything, it is true that when one platform struggles more and requires a lot more work to get at the same point as the competitors platform, it usually indicates it's weaker and requires more optimization(cutbacks in areas).

We all know XSX is more powerful than PS5, the question is by how much. Raw specs is part of it. But features taking advantage of the raw power is also crucial. And we have to be prepared for any last minute upgrades to the hardware from XSX/PS5
 
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Guy who's developing a PS4 exclusive Indie game praises Sony.

BTW this is his game:

The PS5's first 8K game in all its glory.