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[onQ123]

PS5 Slim & PS5 Pro vs Series S & Series X would make things kind of awkward don't you think?

As of now Series X haven't really taken off so it wouldn't have much of a head start over PS5 Pro as far as userbase go .
Right now DF have PS5 vs Series X in faceoffs when there is only around 1/3 people who actually have Xbox Series X vs PS5 at the most.

 

[//DEVIL//]

What is it exactly you want?

 

[Magic Carpet]

What is it exactly you want ?

I think he wants Xbox to go away. It's holding back the PS5 pro. Imagine what the PS5 pro could achieve if it wasn't for that pesky Series X, And S.

 

[Spyxos]

If there is a Ps5 Pro, there is also 100% Xbox Pro something. Both know exactly what the other is building and plan accordingly.

 

[damidu]

ms can easily release a premium priced xbox sxxx just not to be left behind in power narrative as well
none of these will sell huge numbers, pretty sure onex sold like dozen or so.

 

[cormack12]

They'll just release a Series XL or something stupid. We aren't even free of cross gen yet.

I imagine the appeal of the Pro would be the form factor first and foremost.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

If there is a Ps5 Pro, there is also 100% Xbox Pro something. Both know exactly what the other is building and plan accordingly.

 

[Ezekiel_]

Series Z

Now devs would have a new SKU to target.

Much fun

 

[onQ123]

What is it exactly you want ?

I think he wants Xbox to go away. It's holding back the PS5 pro. Imagine what the PS5 pro could achieve if it wasn't for that pesky Series X, And S.

I'm saying that Xbox released a high end model along with the lower end model in 2020 but it haven't really taken off with a PS5 Pro right around the corner.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Who cares. Pro console have diluted the console market

 

[Slothbeing1209]

Xbox series L

 

[THE DUCK]

Series X MAX!
Series X ULTRA!
Series X Enhanced uber edition
Series X Super
Series XXX
Series X2
Super Series X

Easy peasy.

 

[onQ123]

If there is a Ps5 Pro, there is also 100% Xbox Pro something. Both know exactly what the other is building and plan accordingly.

According to some Xbox been keeping all the Series X chips for the servers so it would be strange if they held off on selling Series X to consumers then all of a sudden be able to make even bigger chips next year for the Xbox Series XX .

 

[Helghan]

PS5 Slim & PS5 Pro vs Series S & Series X would make things kind of awkward don't you think?

As of now Series X haven't really taken off so it wouldn't have much of a head start over PS5 Pro as far as userbase go .
Right now DF have PS5 vs Series X in faceoffs when there is only around 1/3 people who actually have Xbox Series X vs PS5 at the most.

How will it be awkward? Is the PS5 suddenly as expensive as the Series S? No? Then it’s different consoles for different market segments and nothing changed.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

According to some Xbox been keeping all the Series X chips for the servers so it would be strange if they held off on selling Series X to consumers then all of a sudden be able to make even bigger chips next year for the Xbox Series XX .

If memory serves correct I think those server upgrades to Series X chips were complete at the end of 2021, I THINK

 

[Drew1440]

Really interested in what naming scheme Microsoft goes with, the smart thing would be to stick a number at the end. That said, I think Microsoft are more interested in an Xbox portable (Like Switch/ Steam Deck) than a high end console. I'm not sure if the One X did well for Xbox.

 

[Skifi28]

Series X X X is already being worked on, expect an announcement soon. I have an inside source in the pr0n industry, so this is 100% guaranteed.

 

[onQ123]

If memory serves correct I think those server upgrades to Series X chips were complete at the end of 2021, I THINK

I believe so it's just people using it as an excuse for lower Series X production ( I believe the low production is intentionally until they have a die shrink )

 

[//DEVIL//]

I'm saying that Xbox released a high end model along with the lower end model in 2020 but it haven't really taken off with a PS5 Pro right around the corner.

What ps5 pro around the corner ? It's just one guy on the nwr claiming things since last 2 years and nothing happened.

And if there is to be a ps5 pro, there will be Xbox pro as well around the same time and probably more powerful than the ps5 pro if history anything to go by, the Xbox series x will just get discontinued and get replaced with the newer version. Problem solved

 

[onQ123]

Really interested in what naming scheme Microsoft goes with, the smart thing would be to stick a number at the end. That said, I think Microsoft are more interested in an Xbox portable (Like Switch/ Steam Deck) than a high end console. I'm not sure if the One X did well for Xbox.

Series S parts besides the GDDR6 is actually perfect for a portable after a die shrink or 2

 

[Chronicle]

If there is a Ps5 Pro, there is also 100% Xbox Pro something. Both know exactly what the other is building and plan accordingly.

I don't think that's true (all the time)

 

[Whitecrow]

Yeah, the branding is playing against it big time

 

[Salz01]

If there is an xbox pro, it will be called the Xbox Extreme. So they‘ll have an entire series of S.E.X.

 

[sodstall]

Hasnt the xcloud streaming dongle "KEYSTONE" thing been teased already? They dont want to make another model(s). They just wanna dress it up in branding or sell you on MTXs.

 

[Valonquar]

When does either system start getting more than 3 worthwhile next gen only titles a year?

 

[LordOfChaos]

If they're doing Pro's they're both doing Pros

As much as each party will have NDAs with AMD, they're not perfect and work with a lot of the same teams and people, they're going to know that the other is launching a mid gen refresh at least.

 

[cireza]

Series Z

Now devs would have a new SKU to target.

Much fun

Right, because PS5 Pro would not count as it would port its games by itself.

 

[Daneel Elijah]

There will probably be a xbox series equivalent to the rumored PS5 Pro. But the what if is interesting. From what we know the pro version is all about ray tracing. Then games will either be PS5 games but just with small gains( still performance and fidelity modes but better trade off) and in a few cases heavy use of ray tracing to make experiences. If xbox do not have a concurrent some games like GTA6 could ( if they are not on PS4 too) choose the PS5 as the prefered platform and neglect a little the xbox. But we know that if the PS5 pro arrives xbox will have a concurrent.

 

[Matt_Fox]

They'll just release a Series XL or something stupid.

Series XL should definitely be the name! Supersize me .

(Microsoft's naming has been awful after they missed the trick to follow up the Xbox 360 with the Xbox 720.)

 

[onQ123]

How will it be awkward? Is the PS5 suddenly as expensive as the Series S? No? Then it’s different consoles for different market segments and nothing changed.

PS5 DE is only $100 more than Series S so a PS5 Slim DE will more than likely hit $299

 

[DaGwaphics]

If there is another Xbox model announced, I'd be shocked if it wasn't branded as an "Elite" something or other, just because that fits the higher priced branding they already have (and if we are getting mid-gens this time around the prices are going above day one MSRP for the PS5/XSX, at least not with any meaningful level of upgrade).

The OP is kind of nonsensical though, because there would be no awkwardness for devs or consumers in a situation with just a PS5 and Pro and a XSS/XSX. The primary target sku would remain the PS5/XSX level with the other two just being cut down/build ups from there. A pro level model isn't going to change game design because they still have to support the day one consoles anyway. Wouldn't be a situation that MS would want to market from, I'm sure, but still not that big of a deal really.

 

[DaGwaphics]

PS5 DE is only $100 more than Series S so a PS5 Slim DE will more than likely hit $299

If they can price reduce that much than the XSS is only $199. At the end of the day, the XSS is always going to be cheaper to produce than the base PS5 (smaller chip, less memory both ram and SSD, cheaper cooling, smaller and lighter package, etc.), that is never being equalized.

I don't think the PS5 will hit $299 for some time yet though.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Xbox’s Pro console handily outclasses PS5 Pro, like last time.

Complacent Sony is the weakest Sony.

 

[ABnormal]

Unlikely. And anyway Pro versions target those gamers who want to update performance more often. It's a niche, it's not produced to replace base consoles.

 

[Captain Toad]

What does the Series S have to do with a PS5 Pro? The Series X is the comparable console to the PS5.

 

[diffusionx]

If MS releases another console I really think they are just going to keep the same name, like “Series X2” like phone schemes

 

[bluecowboys]

If MS makes a new xbox console I hope they don't just update the graphics card. Xbox one x should've been what the series s was in my opinion.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

What is it exactly you want ?

Everyone else was making PS5 Pro threads. He wanted to join too.

 

[EverydayBeast]

No one is looking for pro models yet.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

PS5 Slim & PS5 Pro vs Series S & Series X would make things kind of awkward don't you think?

As of now Series X haven't really taken off so it wouldn't have much of a head start over PS5 Pro as far as userbase go .
Right now DF have PS5 vs Series X in faceoffs when there is only around 1/3 people who actually have Xbox Series X vs PS5 at the most.

Responding with a fan warrior response to your baity fan warrior thread, I'll say its super awkward for PS gamers since the gamer base is split and devs have to split resources to cover another piece of hardware. So, Xbox games will be more streamlined and continue to be better.

Am I doing it right?

/s

 

[onQ123]

If they can price reduce that much than the XSS is only $199. At the end of the day, the XSS is always going to be cheaper to produce than the base PS5 (smaller chip, less memory both ram and SSD, cheaper cooling, smaller and lighter package, etc.), that is never being equalized.

I don't think the PS5 will hit $299 for some time yet though.

Series S has been sold for as little as $149 already

What does the Series S have to do with a PS5 Pro? The Series X is the comparable console to the PS5.

Simple Xbox Series already have 2 models so adding a 3rd might complicate things for devs unless the plan is to faze out Series S when the new console come out but still devs would have to have games that run on Series S , Series X & the new console. We already have one game where the dev is running into problems.

 

[onQ123]

Responding with a fan warrior response to your baity fan warrior thread, I'll say its super awkward for PS gamers since the gamer base is split and devs have to split resources to cover another piece of hardware. So, Xbox games will be more streamlined and continue to be better.

Am I doing it right?

/s

Nope you're doing it wrong since PS5 has a pretty big userbase so it's going to be the main console with the PS5 Pro just getting enhancements that's not going to take up too much dev time.

 

[DonJimbo]

OP your title makes no sense if there is a PS5 Pro there is definitely a more powerful XBOX

 

[onQ123]

OP your title makes no sense if there is a PS5 Pro there is definitely a more powerful XBOX

"In The Event"

 

[Wooxsvan]

both companies work w/ the same Chip maker. those kinda secrets dont happen. one will know what the other is doing.

 

[The Alien]

I'm not looking forward to either of the inevitable 'mid-gen upgrades consoles. Especially considering that there haven't really been many 'next gen' games to play on the cutrent 'next gen' consoles.

 

[onQ123]

both companies work w/ the same Chip maker. those kinda secrets dont happen. one will know what the other is doing.

Knowing that the other company is doing it doesn't mean that they will follow

PS4 Pro & Xbox One X didn't really sell too well

 

[onQ123]

I'm not looking forward to either of the inevitable 'mid-gen upgrades consoles. Especially considering that there haven't really been many 'next gen' games to play on the cutrent 'next gen' consoles.

I'm not understanding these post like this.

It's still a PS5

 

[odhiex]

A new model comes in, old model will be phased out. Microsoft would maintain two different SKUs in the market.

This is why I think, Sony would be releasing one PS5 (standard) SKU without disc drive (removable attachment). That leaves one more spot to market the PS5 Pro.

 

[intbal]

Software isn't even optimized for Series S yet.
PS5 and Series X are just spinning their wheels most of the time. They're capable of a lot more than what developers have given us.

A PS5 Pro would be pointless.