Vawn
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Mario and Zelda are "woke" now? What?
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In just less than 2 days of preorder, Super Mario 3D All-Star already becomes the 3rd best selling software on amazon.com 2020 total sales chart
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Mario and Zelda are "woke" now? What?
namekuseijin
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Optimistic Gamer
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This is why you don't get new games.
Only TLOU2 is a woke game on that list. Nintendo is very conservative company while Sony is a woke company.now?
Kazza
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With All Stars coming out in 18th, there is no chance in hell 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim going ever sell well here.
Another great game is going to get overlooked.
Different systems, right? I don't see it having an effect.
Kazza
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It's crazy that something so overpriced and low-effort can sell so much, so quickly. Just compare:
It's a little depressing, just like how the latest Madden is selling so well. Of course, how individuals choose to use their money is their business, and I don't begrudge people being happy or excited for this, but it seems to me that the more companies get away with this kind of shit the worse it will be for all of us in the long run. Why put time and effort into something when people will lap up a low quality product just as much? Hopefully other companies will just think "well, that's Nintendo fans for you" and not make them think they can get away with it too.
It's a little depressing, just like how the latest Madden is selling so well. Of course, how individuals choose to use their money is their business, and I don't begrudge people being happy or excited for this, but it seems to me that the more companies get away with this kind of shit the worse it will be for all of us in the long run. Why put time and effort into something when people will lap up a low quality product just as much? Hopefully other companies will just think "well, that's Nintendo fans for you" and not make them think they can get away with it too.
Danjin44
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My fear is that its gonna get overshadowed but then again it already is. I barely see anyone talking about this game.
And they put lots of effort to put English dub in the game. This game is gonna be most overlooked game this year or even generation.
namekuseijin
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people who bought TLOU2 are the same playing AC
Over 22 million people bought ACNH and only 4 million bought TLOU2.
ACNH - family and conservative adult
TLOU2 - edgelord feminist teenagers
Different demographics
Sleepwalker
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Mario has been a huge advocate of rainbows and furries since the beginning.
Zelda got named after a female despite the white male warrior doing all the work, everytime.
/s
namekuseijin
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Birdo
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Super Mario Bros 2 had a playable princess and the first trans character in gaming history!
Evil Calvin
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I pre-ordered it. I had a N64 but never played Mario 64. I have a Gamecube and bought and played Sunshine. It;s ok. I got a Wii but never got Galaxy. So, I have 2 great games to finally experience and 1 to revist (even though it's not the best).
Rean no Kiseki
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Might as well claim it's depressing gog.com exists as it started out by selling us the oldies we wanted to (re)play, as they were with maybe a fix or two for modern OS. Also you weren't happy when Sony (or similarly Microsoft) made this or that particular PlayStation (1/2) game you wanted to have again available on PSN etc.? Didn't Resident Evil 4 (and Remake, and others) sell quite a lot (and was regardless considered a good thing) with all the re-releases the last couple of generations (and even got negative comments for tampered hd-fied assets most recently as people preferred the original)? FFVII and others by Square were re-released as they were on all kinds of platforms too. How many times have you wished SEGA would give us Saturn and Dreamcast classics on modern systems by now anyway? And if you haven't and I remember wrong, what's wrong with you, lol. Anything else is not justified by such weak arguments that sound like salty repressed feelings.It's crazy that something so overpriced and low-effort can sell so much, so quickly. Just compare:
It's a little depressing, just like how the latest Madden is selling so well. Of course, how individuals choose to use their money is their business, and I don't begrudge people being happy or excited for this, but it seems to me that the more companies get away with this kind of shit the worse it will be for all of us in the long run. Why put time and effort into something when people will lap up a low quality product just as much? Hopefully other companies will just think "well, that's Nintendo fans for you" and not make them think they can get away with it too.
Here's a single PS2 era game, never mind a bundle that includes one of those, one older and one newer, by sweet Square.
Here's a PS1 game, I wonder how much that 20 would be if it was offered with a couple more of them, huh. Evil Nintendo.
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Potato Chip PRO
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I don't know if I should support this business behavior? Perhaps this is Nintendo testing the waters on selling their Ips for a limited time.... Let's not make them comfortable with this selling tactic. just a thought
Vawn
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You mean where they took 3 classic Mario games and redid the graphics from the ground up to take advantage of the new hardware?
I'm not seeing that here. This is just 3 classic games ported together in one package with little to nothing done to change their presentation.
Lionel Richie
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ITT: people mad as fuck being unable to cope with shit.
Kazza
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I don't quite know if you're being deliberately obtuse so that you have an excuse to start an argument for absolutely no reason whatsoever (what's the matter, been a rough week?), or if you genuinely don't understand the (very simple and easy to grasp) point I'm making. Assuming it's the later (because if it's the former then it's kind of pointless even having this discussion at all) let me explain:
What I did was compare this Nintendo effort with similar recent releases. The Crash Trilogy was contained 3 fully remade games and sold for just £35, whereas this Mario collection is just 3 super basic ports selling for £50. Do I really need to elaborate on this point further?
Why would me advocating modern Saturn and Dreamcast ports undermine anything I said in my post? What makes you think you've landed some kind of sassy gotcha here? If a company want to release a super basic port then fine, but the price should reflect that (as it does on GOG, where these old ports have low prices to match, not a £50 price tag). The Dreamcast HD ports (JSR, Crazy Taxi etc) during the previous gen were all £6/$10, which was a fair price. You can get 6 of them here (plus Nights as a bonus) for £25 on Steam, and that's the non-sale price. If Skies of Arcadia gets the same treatment, then I would expect a similar price (maybe bump it up to £8/£9 due to inflation and all that). If for example Sega were to announce a compilation consisting of bare-bones HD ports of the 3 Saturn Panzer Dragoon games for £50, then I would criticise that too (£20 would be a more fair price). If on the other hand they want to go to the effort of completely remaking them and sell them individually for $25 a pop (as Forever Entertainment have started to do), then that sounds much more reasonable.
Is this really so difficult to understand? Most people here got the point already from my original post without the need for this much more long-winded explanation, right?
Alexios
, you're the VR guy, right? Apart from games, I'm sure you another....ahem....collection for your VR set. If you've had a bad week, then why not just log off GAF for the afternoon, stick that headset on and find some release.....another way, instead of trying to find beef where there is no beef to be had?
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Unable to cope with being in the minority it seems like.
Kazza
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Unless it's a big AAA title such as TLOU, end of gen titles are always in danger of being overlooked. Hopefully it won't get buried under all the next gen hype. With those kind of more niche games I think it's more important than ever that they go multi-plat in order to maximise sales. Hopefully Atlus will start this with Vanillaware titles now that they are proting Persona.
Danjin44
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I agree, I LOVE Vanillaware games it really doesn't deserved to be overlooked and I'm beyond hype for 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim and it gotten so many positives previews and reviews but people barely pay attention to this game.
Lionel Richie
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It has to suck feeling that strongly about it and looking around and seeing that nobody gives a shit. People scream bloody murder about Nintendo and this is how they take it:
Shaqazooloo
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Yeah, I noticed all Mario games got some sort of boost after 3D All-Stars was announced.More Mario games
Kazza
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Well, look on the bright side, at least you're not a Shenmue fan, where every thread attracts the usual haters (although sometimes being hated is better than being ignored)
I used to worry a bit about Vanillaware, but now I'm confident that someone like Sega would step in to buy them up if they ever did get into financial trouble. I think there are too many people in the industry who recognise their talent to allow them to go under.
Maybe they will have a big breakout hit one day. In the meantime, try to enjoy the "I liked them before they were cool" period.
BTW (final message before we derail the thread), is there any news about what new game they are working on right now?
Paracelsus
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Threads like these are good bookmarks to repost whenever someone says Consoomer is just a meme.
Shaqazooloo
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I think he means with it being a limited release.
Danjin44
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Currently, no idea, 13 Sentinels released in Japan last year and that game took a long time to finish.
belmarduk
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BotW2 is "in development" as of June 2019. We have no idea if its around the corner or not. I know that Japan has the technology to work from home, they aren't Pakistan.
Mister Wolf
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All I want is Galaxy. Not paying $60 for two other games I don't want.
namekuseijin
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that's the very reason why
60+ million switch users have nothing else to expect for the year, so they're pouring all their money on yet more old games
other platforms have plenty of new games to choose from
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TKOFromTokyo
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How many of those Switch users don’t only another console or game on PC? I own a PS4 and I own more Switch games. I choose to buy Nintendo games because I like them better than what the competition offers. I’m sure plenty of Switch owners could buy other games on other console too.
V4skunk
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But Nintendo banned the lgbtwtfbbq rainbow flag.
The same GTAV, COD, and FIFA to choose from.
Some people don't understand, this is a collection of games that defines its generation and not knack collection or some cinematic bs video game collection.It has to suck feeling that strongly about it and looking around and seeing that nobody gives a shit. People scream bloody murder about Nintendo and this is how they take it:
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hariseldon
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Yep, if we were to just stop buying these games that we want to play Nintendo might not have been so affected by Covid and maybe we might have got an Animal Crossing or maybe a new Paper Mario this year. How awful we are.
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hariseldon
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Wonder how many give no fucks about limited time only and simply pre-ordered a guaranteed excellent game to save themselves the hassle of doing it later because they really want that fantastic set of games?