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IGN: Mass Effect Legendary Edition Changes Some Gratuitious Camera Shots

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Why? You're weird.

There's a lot porn out there, you know? Why when you play games also like to look at porn?

That has signs of being an addiction.

People like looking at things they find attractive?

So strange, so confusing. Do you feel the need to jerk off every time you see an attractive woman, or do you just enjoy the sight?
 
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Message boards are for arguing. To say otherwise is stupid.

And sorry I'm going to think your stupid if your crying over something so pointless. They haven't ruined Mass Effect 2 and if they did for you over this.. well I don't think you were a fan in the first place. You're just looking for a new battleground to bitch about "SJWs". These people you're talking about don't even follow their own statements.

It's censorship now. But it will be creative freedom when say a developer says they want to make their character super sexy or whatever.

If they were to change Ashley in 3 back to her look in one. Would there be a thread about how that's censorship? Even though common criticism back then was that 3's version was a lame attempt at fanservice compared to how the character was originally displayed. In that thread, would it now be an artistic expression?
 
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Why do you care what some random person does? Seriously. That has signs you need to get a life.
I don't have a life because i talked to you in a internet forum?

What an horrible thing to do, talk to a stranger in internet. That was a terrible thing for my part.

But meanwhile you evade to answer a single thing i told you in my reply.
 
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get out of your parents basement and go try to get some in real life, you weirdo
 

Dacon

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Message boards are for arguing. To say otherwise is stupid.
The only discussions you can have on message boards is childish shit flinging of the most immature order? News to me.

And sorry I'm going to think your stupid if your crying over something so pointless.

You're literally raging on a message board calling people people stupid and insulting them over this. If it's so pointless why's it worth attacking people about?

If it's so insignificant, why is it so important to you that people don't agree with you, and you feel the need to denigrate them over it?
They haven't ruined Mass Effect 2 and if they did for you over this..

No they haven't, but it's a silly change and there's nothing wrong with pointing out how silly it, and the reasoning behind it is.

well I don't think you were a fan in the first place.

You don't get to decide who is a fan, and you don't get to decide what's worthy of their attention or concern. It doesn't make you any better of a person, or any more moral to be ok with it, and attack people who aren't.

You're just looking for a new battleground to bitch about "SJWs".

Or, and bear with me, this is gonna be a doozy, we're someone who loved Mass Effect 2 and don't like changes just for the sake of signaling to people who probably aren't going to play the game anyway.
 
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Nah, I feel pretty better not giving a shit about ass shots in a video game.

Also, why do you have to frame it as them signaling? Why can't they just change it independent of some culture war you think you are fighting. For a fourm that says it's no resetera, so much of the same shit happens here. Endless bitching and reading into every action. It's all to appease the sjws! They are attacking white men! How about they just thought dumb ass shots were stupid?
 
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Dacon

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Nah, I feel pretty better not giving a shit about ass shots in a video game.

Then you'll feel better not giving a shit about people who do. You'll better your ability to socialize as well.

Also, why do you have to frame it as them signaling?

Because that's what it clearly is. Look at how the question was posed to them to begin with.


Why can't they just change it independent of some culture war you think you are fighting.

I didn't say anything about any culture war and I'm certainly not fighting one either.

For a fourm that says it's no resetera, so much of the same shit happens here. Endless bitching and reading into every action.

You are literally doing that right now pal. You say you don't care but here you are to talk down to the ignorant masses who do care, you're so invested in this you feel the need to attack people over it.

It's all to appease the sjws! They are attacking white men! How about they just thought dumb ass shots were stupid?

You're very upset, my god.
 

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why you people are offended by any sort of change or developers doing anything that I guess you've deemed "woke".

We're not offended by change. Change can be good... like increasing resolution, texture fidelity, or framerate for an old game. That's positive change. Retroactive censorship is not positive change. It is totalitarian dictatorship deciding what was once acceptable is now no longer acceptable. For no reason other than appealing to a political agenda that is not shared by the majority of the purchasing demographic.

Retroactive censorship should at least be optional. Because having the option is fair. A toggle in the menu like "Woke Mode: YES or NO". So you can choose YES if you would be personally offended by seeing a camera shot of a women's ass in a tight bodysuit. YES means you won't see the "horrifyingly demeaning" image, instead you'll see a camera shot of the woman's unrealistically masculine biceps. Meanwhile those of us who played the original game, and simply want to replay that same game in greater fidelity, can do so without our experience being compromised. We choose "Woke Mode: NO".

There's a lot porn out there, you know? Why when you play games also like to look at porn?

That has signs of being an addiction.

There's a lot of people getting shot videos out there, you know? Why when you play video games also like to shoot people?

That has signs of being a psychopath.
 
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There's a lot of people getting shot videos out there, you know? Why when you play video games also like to shoot people?

That has signs of being a psychopath.

It makes no sense to feel sexually attracted by a character of a videogame or a drawning. It just doesn't make any sense.

Kill people or slaying them into oblivion is nice in videogames. For asses and everything else you've got porn. It's vey extensive and weird if you like weirdness, so you don't have to bother videogames with your wanker shit.
 

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“Let’s ruin one of the most emblematic parts of the game to conform with modern times”

We became such cowards in just a decade.
The booty has never been more popular, women born with some extra lower waist flesh are considered hot, there are workout routines specifically made to get booty gains, you can’t even scroll through instagram without a bunch of proud women showing their ass bounce and jiggle on camera now.
So I don’t know about that conform with modern times thing. I don’t see anyone complaining about someone’s big booty today except on some places on the internet. Everybody want one. But gaming is just behind the curve on everything and devs are tired of miserable people angry at life screaming at them on twitter.
 
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It makes no sense to feel sexually attracted by a character of a videogame or a drawning. It just doesn't make any sense.

Kill people or slaying them into oblivion is nice in videogames. For asses and everything else you've got porn. It's vey extensive and weird if you like weirdness, so you don't have to bother videogames with your wanker shit.

It makes no sense to violently murder a character of a video game or draw it happening. It just doesn't make any sense.

Having sex with people or ogling them is nice in video games. For murder and everything else you've got snuff films. It's very extensive if you like violence, so you don't have to bother video games with your psychopathic shit.
 

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I'll never understand why so many people can't talk about anything on the internet without acting like angry little pissbabies who cannot handle disagreement on the most insignificant of issues. The amount of ire, and vitriol is embarrassing.

Grow up, it's videogames holy shit. You're not morally superior to anyone for having a difference of opinion.
It makes no sense to feel sexually attracted by a character of a videogame or a drawning. It just doesn't make any sense.

Kill people or slaying them into oblivion is nice in videogames. For asses and everything else you've got porn. It's vey extensive and weird if you like weirdness, so you don't have to bother videogames with your wanker shit.

You sound like you should see a therapist. It sounds so mentally disturbed I'm almost convinced this is just a troll.
 
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It makes no sense to violently murder a character of a video game or draw it happening. It just doesn't make any sense.

Having sex with people or ogling them is nice in video games. For murder and everything else you've got snuff films. It's very extensive if you like violence, so you don't have to bother video games with your psychopathic shit.
Having sex with a character in a videogame is just sad. Killing them is funny.
 

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It makes no sense to feel sexually attracted by a character of a videogame or a drawning. It just doesn't make any sense.

Kill people or slaying them into oblivion is nice in videogames. For asses and everything else you've got porn. It's vey extensive and weird if you like weirdness, so you don't have to bother videogames with your wanker shit.
So don't you dare enjoy those video ladies, please use real porn, where actual women are frequently exploited and abused, got it
 

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So when fans don't like something about Bioware's games, they come out and make bold statements about their artistic vision and integrity and how that should not be changed or influenced by anyone. But when far-left puritans want to make changes to their games in the name of wokeness, I guess their artistic vision and integrity goes out the window?

Funny how that works.

Don't give Bioware your money.
 

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Why? You're weird.
Kill people or slaying them into oblivion is nice in videogames.
To take a reality check on what’s considered normal or weird outside the desensitized ”it’s not real” video game bubble you could try asking your mom or other elders person you know what’s less weird - to enjoy looking at beautiful women or enjoy looking at people getting killed or slayed into oblivion.

I know what they’ll say. I’ve had that talk.

I used to draw violent action scenes, from games basically, in an era when video game violence was a few red pixels. This wasn’t always so popular, had lots of serious talks about that with grown-ups who thought it was an evidence that I was sick.
I went: ”It’s just a drawing...”.

Unfortunately the grown-ups weren’t desensitized from movies, comics and games like me.

Then when I started to draw women they mostly went: ”Oh that’s nice, is that your dream woman?”.
I went: ”It’s just a drawing...”.


Today I’m a parent myself and I have had to rethink many subjects regarding all mature material. I still think ”come on, it’s not real” is a valid defense when someone tries to censor a game into a kids cartoon. But if I had to choose what content I would be fine with my kids looking at it would absolutely be sexual stuff and not violence.

And today, even though I’m desensitized like the rest, I think video game violence is kinda sick considering the graphics fidelity and animations. It’s not real but do we really need to see brains and guts? If I can I always flick the gore switch to off these days.
 
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Message boards are for arguing. To say otherwise is stupid.

And sorry I'm going to think your stupid if your crying over something so pointless. They haven't ruined Mass Effect 2 and if they did for you over this.. well I don't think you were a fan in the first place. You're just looking for a new battleground to bitch about "SJWs". These people you're talking about don't even follow their own statements.

It's censorship now. But it will be creative freedom when say a developer says they want to make their character super sexy or whatever.

If they were to change Ashley in 3 back to her look in one. Would there be a thread about how that's censorship? Even though common criticism back then was that 3's version was a lame attempt at fanservice compared to how the character was originally displayed. In that thread, would it now be an artistic expression?
You sure love arguing! Talking down to "virgin neckbeards" because they like their problematic ass shots. You must easily have the most posts ITT. You're a negative little soul who can't argue without condescending remarks, you're of the reset/twitter variety and are basically impossible to argue with because you are not open to discuss this topic without belittling others you disagree with. You have your stance completely locked, you're just looking for brownie points
 

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I was there for the launches of Mass Effect and Dragon Age, and I very well remember that "you have these super sexy companions that you can romance and you actually get to bang them in these photorealistic cutcscenes" was an aspect of the games that was super hyped by every damn gaming website out there, and then we bought the games, fapped to them, and it was glorious. Today its unthinkable that a female character in a game has a feminine jawline or haircut. I want to rewind the clock twenty years and ban all the fucking retards, trannies and snowflakes from infecting the Internet with their mental diseases.
 
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People like looking at things they find attractive?

So strange, so confusing. Do you feel the need to jerk off every time you see an attractive woman, or do you just enjoy the sight?

Exactly. Any dev can hire an ugly, but talented actress for motion capture and an ugly voice actor with a great voice and then make in game char look immaculate/hot/ or a perfect fit for the game so the player who bought the game is not disgusted while playing the game, but what we have now is complete opposite for the most part. It's astonishing to me how devs seem to listen to few sjw who dont even play their games just to make game worse for millions. Looks like a terrible business practice to me.
 

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Well, nothing important was actually lost, I'm ok if female characters aren't treated like eye candy, it's just common sense. My issue is when a couple ass shots are treated like the result of the everlasting patriarchy of the evil white men while at the same time you have music video with girls twerking and mimicking sexual acts and those are ok because something something empowering something.
I mean , what issues do you have with sexuality when miranda's ass is something to impotently rage against?
 

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Well, nothing important was actually lost, I'm ok if female characters aren't treated like eye candy, it's just common sense. My issue is when a couple ass shots are treated like the result of the everlasting patriarchy of the evil white men while at the same time you have music video with girls twerking and mimicking sexual acts and those are ok because something something empowering something.
I mean , what issues do you have with sexuality when miranda's ass is something to impotently rage against?
It’s because when Miley Cirus twerks and sings “dont fuck with my freedom” she is a strong empowered woman.
But when developers show off sexy females in videogames it is white patriarchy and fan service for neckbeards.
Their argument is that the female characters are depicted sexualised on purpose while Miley somehow did it by ber own choice and empowerment. (she totally doesnt do it for the money, no, certainly not)
But since they cant think beyond their own hatred they notice that in the end it is all the same.
Hell, we have examples in this thread of sexualized men which were ignored or brushed away.
It all boils down to “revenge scenarios“: “Women cant be sexy , otherwise it’s sexualization, unless they do it them seves, but men are free game because they sexualize women all the time and women obviously cant be sexist”
 
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Meh. I'm not a fan of changing games (or any media for that matter) to match the standards of current day politics.

Rather, make the games of today match it, that way 10-20 years later, they will be looked back upon as being developed/created during that particular time in history.

Just like I won't expect them to add gratuitous butt shots to say Last of Us 2 in the future to accommodate when we inevitably swing back the other way from our current climate. Zeitgeist and all that.

With that said, unless they add some additional plot developments (ie new ending/added ending leading into 4) I'll be skipping this.

I have the series with all its offerings on PC, modded to hell and back. To me that's the definitive experience.
 

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It's nice to see the people ITT who are offended by an ass shot and defending this censorship, are getting destroyed.

"I don't need no digital ass. I'll just get some real ass yo"

LOL can you hear yourself? :messenger_grinning_squinting:

And do you turn off movies whenever there's an attractive woman onscreen?

Cherry Sonoshee back to REEEEEEE with you. You are too much. My whole body is cringing. My cells are cringing lol
Nah i dont turn it off, but im not going to be a neckbeard and complain like a child about something that adds no meaning or context to story, gameplay etc. When it wasnt those shots that made mass effect great in the first place.
 

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Why be hypocrites, why not take out the sex scenes also and some of the crazy violence where u can combo powers to light people on fire and dump them in the air 30 ft where they are screaming in pain. It’s BS you made tons of money and sales because that was your vision and you were on point for the game , seems kind insulting to the original work. Been a big fan over the years but I finally agree they got some confused people in charge of the company now.
 

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Ugh.
They should not make any changes to any games to placate the resetera crowd.. just because they're very loud doesn't mean they aren't a tiny minority of gamers who will never be happy no matter what is done to try to please them.
 

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For me it's not abscence of asses, it's the fact that they bothered and spend resources on removing those asses.

And that's lame. One more redflag for what it's already looking to be a poorly done demake of two classics and a decent game.
Agreed. The games have some other rough spots that need changing but they will stay the same. Actively working on adapting camera angles that werent broken to begin with, just so they dont get called out by woke twitter harassment groups, is lame.
 
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They really should just call it the Woke Edition and get it over with. I read that they are placing femshep front and center on promotional material, since apparently male shep was front and center for the original games. I guess I don't remember that since all anybody ever talked about was femshep. I felt like the male shep was the generic forgotten shep and femshep was the way the game was meant to be played. Well now it will be even more so. How many more years before it is nearly impossible to play a male lead character in a AAA game? If we can't even count on remasters to stick to the original content, we can expect more and more remasters to cut and edit the original content to make the game more favorable for female gamers, who should soon be the majority of gamers the way things are going.
 
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Hmmm gratuitous camera shots are the only camera shots woth taking.

Obviously this does not apply if they were to encourage the toxic male stare.
 

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Any chance all this inserting of a 'woke agenda' into games is just some 4d chess marketing tactic?

1. Insert woke agenda
2. People get riled up
3. Game gets traction online, journalists can write articles about gamergate, etc
4. Developers appear virtuous.
5. You're a literal nazi if you don't buy the game
 
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Message boards are for arguing. To say otherwise is stupid.

And sorry I'm going to think your stupid if your crying over something so pointless. They haven't ruined Mass Effect 2 and if they did for you over this.. well I don't think you were a fan in the first place. You're just looking for a new battleground to bitch about "SJWs". These people you're talking about don't even follow their own statements.

It's censorship now. But it will be creative freedom when say a developer says they want to make their character super sexy or whatever.

If they were to change Ashley in 3 back to her look in one. Would there be a thread about how that's censorship? Even though common criticism back then was that 3's version was a lame attempt at fanservice compared to how the character was originally displayed. In that thread, would it now be an artistic expression?

I was wondering why your terrible posting style felt so familiar to me.

Then I remembered that you pulled the same garbage in this thread.


Also you are correct that message boards are good for arguments.

However the quality of that discussion is dependent on the participants.

For example, if you have someone who waltzes into a thread without reading it, instantly accuses and projects onto everyone who dares to criticize what they think should be immune from criticism, you generally have piss poor discussions, as some of the people in this thread have learned from your posts here and in the thread I linked.
 
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So liking sexy women in games is alt-right now? you Resetera crazy SJWs are hilarious.
If you're not an sjw you are a body abled alt-right old white male nazi patriarch incel that goes around male gazing, raping and, worst of all, you assume people's gender and pronouns, all the while you spread whiteness to everyone who is not woke enough to look know better.

Note that even neo-nazis are inclusive these days, so you can be all the above even if you're a black trans gay lesbian queer person in a wheelchair.
 

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I haven't played the series much but I don't think they should have changed this. I can understand if they don't want to have camera angles like this in future games but they shouldn't change old games. Is the person who directed the cutscenes involved with this remaster?
 
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Butt shots or GTFO

"Lets ignore a trilogy that set a great standard for that time for how games should be made that involve great gameplay, great story telling, actual choice options with long term story telling etc because Im a neckbeard and mad that they took out an ass shot"

such a petulant child.
 

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I was wondering why your terrible posting style felt so familiar to me.

Then I remembered that you pulled the same garbage in this thread.


Also you are correct that message boards are good for arguments.

However the quality of that discussion is dependent on the participants.

For example, if you have someone who waltzes into a thread without reading it, instantly accuses and projects onto everyone who dares to criticize what they think should be immune from criticism, you generally have piss poor discussions, as some of the people in this thread have learned from your posts here and in the thread I linked.
dude is 100% a resetera reject lol

"Lets ignore a trilogy that set a great standard for that time for how games should be made that involve great gameplay, great story telling, actual choice options with long term story telling etc because Im a neckbeard and mad that they took out an ass shot"

such a petulant child.

this dude is just a wanabe, prob didn't even get his acc approved at resetera so is now here lashing out at us poor neckbearded virgins! help!!! evilore!!
 
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Any chance all this inserting of a 'woke agenda' into games is just some 4d chess marketing tactic?

1. Insert woke agenda
2. People get riled up
3. Game gets traction online, journalists can write articles about gamergate, etc
4. Developers appear virtuous.
5. You're a literal nazi if you don't buy the game
Moving a camera angle is now considered woke? Do you know of the content in the actual game....this is one game I wouldnt consider woke at all where apaprently you can fuck anything and beat the hell out of a female reporter etc.

jesus people think anything is "woke" these days