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IGN: Mass Effect Legendary Edition Changes Some Gratuitious Camera Shots

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Coomers are oppressed!

lol, but seriously this camera thing is so stupid, just distracts from the fact that they're shipping it without ME3 multiplayer, which is a damn shame, if they really made an effort they could have launched it with full crossplay support, that would have been rad.

$60 for the whole trilogy with DLC included isn't bad value though. You're getting a buttload of hour per buck entertainment.
 
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Fredrik

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Why is one okay and the other isn't? out of the loop on the vampire stuff
My highly uneducated guess is that it’s a new female power fantasy thing. The vampire lady probably have LLL cups but since she’s in total control sexualization is alright. Same thing with Abby getting fucked from behind on screen, it would never be accepted if some guy did that to Lara Croft, but Abby is big enough to snap Owen’s back with her fingers so I guess the idea is that she simply allows him to fuck her for awhile with his puny lil dick until she’s had her fun for the day and can then throw him away like garbage if she wanted. So then it’s alright. Or something. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Oh, I see we're back at making fun of people (who may or may no be involved with this remaster) for their appearance. Great.

Its never cool to make fun of someone just based on their genetics. But when someone literally makes themselves look like a clown and wears a top thats "skinny shaming" whilst being morbidly obese, it's 100% okay to conclude they are a terrible human being.
 
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Once again, gotta love the hypocrisy. Have all types of sexual, beautiful and half naked women showing off their stuff on music videos, Instagram, Facebook, social media, TV shows, commercials, movies, etc, but video games are where they draw the line and demand censorship. Keep the females grounded or just plain average in a video game, but make sure you find the most beautiful women for our new cop drama, reality show, news anchors or big budget movie.

Honestly though, as much as I played Mass Effect, I don’t really remember those shots too well, but I don’t think they should tamper with the original artist’s vision.
 
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This is why Japan is superior. If you look at Yakuza they are recognizable even NPC actresses are recognizable from their model. They look the same as the actual person who plays them, And this goes for male and female models. Ant there is nothing to do here for Western devolper if they motion capture except they want to make the female character more uglier.

They cast models because that's what sells in a country with panties vending machines. Anything other than beautiful / handsome leads simply wouldn't get made.

“The protagonist [Jin] isn’t a particularly handsome lead, don’t you think? At your typical [Japanese] company, if you showed concept art for a character like him, I don’t think it would be approved.” The marketing team, he continued, would offer all this data stating why such a lead character was a bad idea, and that would be the end of a lead like Jin. Nagoshi thought it was amazing that such a protagonist was the lead character.“All this money and development time is being spent on this middle-aged dude.” He applauded the resolve to entrust things in such a character. From what Nagoshi said, it doesn’t seem like that would be possible in Japan. Perhaps he thinks game companies would prefer a younger protagonist, which is certainly more common in Japanese games.
Nagoshi on Ghost of Tsushima


Coomers are oppressed!

lol, but seriously this camera thing is so stupid, just distracts from the fact that they're shipping it without ME3 multiplayer, which is a damn shame, if they really made an effort they could have launched it with full crossplay support, that would have been rad.

$60 for the whole trilogy with DLC included isn't bad value though. You're getting a buttload of hour per buck entertainment.
I'd love to have the mp but I think that would have required way more effort and time than what the remaster is going to make in return/what EA was willing to invest. This'll probably sell a few million copies, maybe more since PS5/Xboxwhatever are title starved for the next good while.
 

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Make everyone black and trans that's the only way you can truly beat racism. or sexism. Or whatever the fuck? What is it? Whatever I'm sorry for being white. Kill me
Holy shit, why are so many internet white dudes these days such pussies and always acting like victims. Be a fucking man and stop crying so much.
 
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Did they improved the shooting in the first one? It was okay in 2 and 3 but the first one was clunky as hell.
 

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Holy shit, why are so many internet white dudes these days such pussies and always acting like victims. Be a fucking man and stop crying so much.
Holy shit why are your jimmies rustled so easily? Be a fucking man and stop lactating so much
 
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I imagine changing a camera angle is something that could be easily done with a mod. After this comes out, as usual, the mod community will need to fix what the developers messed up.
 
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Another hot take from aging developer about how stupid we are for raising objections to things we don't like: go watch porn instead

We were already watching porn, dumbass
Ugh. I really respect(ed?) Josh Sawyer. Fallout: New Vegas was fantastic. Joshua Graham, in the Honest Hearts DLC was particularly memorable. Bummer.


It's always interesting to see how much developers hate their customers. "You're the worst!" "Buy my game."
 

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Once again, gotta love the hypocrisy. Have all types of sexual, beautiful and half naked women showing off their stuff on music videos, Instagram, Facebook, social media, TV shows, commercials, movies, etc, but video games are where they draw the line and demand censorship. Keep the females grounded or just plain average in a video game, but make sure you find the most beautiful women for our new cop drama, reality show, news anchors or big budget movie.
Lol yup and whatever happened to the ”it’s just pixels” defense? Once it’s about something sexual or representation or whatever it’s suddenly like people are talking about the reality but once someone wants to remove or censor violence it’s always just pixels. 🙄

And while game devs in general are treating ”erotism” like they’re making games for kids they’re simultaneously increasing the violence which has never been more brutal, detailed and focused on the killing with slow motion cams etc. Imagine the talk if someone added a slow motion effect that was triggered once there is some body bounce or jiggle lol

In my opinion it’s all nonsense.

Just include a mature content menu. No more crying on twitter, everyone can just enter the menu and remove anything they don’t like without bothering everyone else; gore, jiggle, bounce, ass cams, dicks, big breasts, big biceps, slowmo kills, x ray kills, hour glass figures, full lips, skirts, tight tops etc etc - Just click Off. Done.

To be serious, by trying to remove stuff until they don’t bother anyone with anything they’re just making games more boring.
Today when looking at Nu Lara Croft, Jesse, Ellie, even viking Eivor is like looking at your neighbour. And it goes for men as well. Back in my youth I could play as a bare-chested hulk of a man, muscles big enough to write an essay about, and it was aaawesome. Today I’m playing as a skinny middle aged man in jeans and a shirt. Boooring!
 

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So don't you dare enjoy those video ladies, please use real porn, where actual women are frequently exploited and abused, got it
No you don't get it, that's "empowering wahmen" according to inter sectional woke feminists. They view it as them making big bucks as the men are faceless props, and they have agency so it's ok. You see this with the same people trying to remove attractiveness in games yet praise cardi b's wap and other hos. Hypocrites to the highest degree.
 
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Beanie wearing moustachioed beanpole sitting in his silly neon-lit gaming cave surrounded by his entertainment paraphernalia, anime action figurines, gaming sculptures and various other childish toys to establish his "gamer cred" telling me to 'grow up'. Why is it always those who play pretend to be 'grown-ups' that come up with these puritanistic arguments?

Real grown-ups have other things to worry about than video-game ass. Real grown-ups also have had their fair share of real life ass, to the point of not being bothered by being confronted with a virtual one. Real grown-ups also can appreciate a nicely shaped ass without turning into a horny mess. Real grown-ups also know that a nicely shaped ass is not all that there is to a person.

On the plus side, this whole controversy has probably plastered Miranda's rear all over the internet and more people are now looking at her behind than ever before. The cumulative hours of people staring at her ass would have been lower had BioWare just changed nothing.
 
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I'm not surprised that young people don't see this as censorship, even though it totally is. This "let's change camera angles"-type of censorship is often used a lot in anime that airs on TV in Murica. The most recent I know of is Fire Force where Toonami used freeze frames of Tamaki's face instead of panning down to show that she was accidentally groped.

Is it a big change here? No, not really. Does it make the game more tasteful in certain situations? Yes, absolutely. Is it needed? No, it's a remaster not a remake. You only touch up graphics, maybe optimize the control scheme, but you leave the rest alone. If you want to change shit, remake the game.

It's also hypocritical when they talk about why they don't change the ending of ME3
There’s one other even more controversial topic when it comes to Mass Effect though and that’s the ending of the final game, which was so unpopular with fans BioWare were compelled to release an ‘Extended Cut’ to try and placate them. That will be used as standard in the remasters but it never really addressed the issues most had with the ending and yet, as we admit to Walters, it’s hard to see how it can be changed without creating a significant amount of new content.

‘Exactly!’ he laughs, although somewhat grimly. ‘Whenever we’ve ever discussed doing the remaster, I think you put all options on the table to start with, right? But you need to keep what I think is the heart of what the franchise was, what people remember it to be – which is the choices that you made, the characters that you meet, the encounters you’ve had with them – and sort of draw a line in the sand and say, ‘No, that is what people loved and that’s what they remember’.
They are talking about "keeping the heart of the game intact, what people remember it to be"... I mean the oftentimes hilarious camera angles are what fans love and what they remember about ME2. Heck, this was one of the biggest memes in the gaming space back then. People called it "Ass Effect" for a reason.

Beanie wearing moustachioed beanpole sitting in his silly neon-lit gaming cave surrounded by his entertainment paraphernalia, anime action figurines, gaming sculptures and various other childish toys to establish his "gamer cred" telling me to 'grow up'. Why is it always those who play pretend to be 'grown-ups' that come up with these puritanistic arguments?
It's typically the same crowd who wants video games "to grow up" or deem them "immature" because of the over sexualization. They believe that gaming needs to be this untouchable pillar where no fun is allowed.

All the while you get blasted with Wet Ass Pussy and City Girls in the music industry, have Scarlet Johansson and Elizabeth Olsen shove their cleavage into frame in the Marvel movies and woman get wet and start masturbating while reading 50 Shades Of Grey. Gaming will never grow up if they keep sanitizing it.
 
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Another hot take from aging developer about how stupid we are for raising objections to things we don't like: go watch porn instead

We were already watching porn, dumbass
Except for the rare case of people counting "Fuck you, customer!" as feedback, it's obvious at this point that a healthy feedback cycle between producer and consumer doesn't exist anymore. 🫂