kunonabi
Member
As a long time Konami fan I'd kill for a year like this one.
Square has been a complete shit factory the last several years outside of the occasional gem. This is by no means their worst year as hit or miss as it is.
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i think we can all agree 2022 is by far Square Enix's worst year
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Square has been a complete shit factory the last several years outside of the occasional gem. This is by no means their worst year as hit or miss as it is.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
I'm thinking more like autistic.
FloopCookiefix
Member
^Thanks for answering.
Do you personally think it would be reasonable for all three parts of this remake to have been released as one game/at the same time? Taking into account the current scale of these games' production.
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dacuk
Member
It is quite obvious that you do not have a Switch...
FalsettoVibe
Member
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Tell me you didn't play their games this year without telling me you didn't play their games this year.
This is some big ol' bullshit, mate.
Kataploom
Gold Member
They made so many stupid decisions just for us to think they got it... just for them end up releasing a stupid NFT game nobody will care about if it's not to feel sorry and laugh about them...
I think the lesson is clear: Stop trying to make everything bigger and to exploit trends "just because", keep releasing smaller stuff since they seem to do very well for their scope... They could learn a shitton of things from Nintendo...
I think the lesson is clear: Stop trying to make everything bigger and to exploit trends "just because", keep releasing smaller stuff since they seem to do very well for their scope... They could learn a shitton of things from Nintendo...
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Also gotta say, JRPG community is filled with pedantic, contrarian gatekeepers. No better way to start a flame war than saying “I think we can all agree….”
Kokoloko85
Member
You obviously didnt play Triangle Strategy. I played a bit and its awesome.
Loads of good games
Loads of good games
AtomicStarving
Member
I'm so hyped for Forspoken. I'm a big fan of infamous, and that game looks really sick. I think 2023 is gonna be a huge year for SE.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Op is the epitome of online discussion: distorted, misinformed, illogical, inflammatory. Why should square enix treat their consumers like intelligent people if the complains directed to it doesn't really prove them wrong. This is the reason why gaming will never be taken seriously.
Also, 25 year ago square enix didn't even existed , right? They were still two separate companies.
Also, 25 year ago square enix didn't even existed , right? They were still two separate companies.
What?
Live A Live was great. Diofield was better than expected, Valkyrie Elysium and Star Ocean are both very entertaining, and Tactics Ogre is and always will be marvellous.
We've also had some voice of cards games.
You can't possibly have played any of these games.
Of forgot about Triangle Strategy, best game of the year.
SE is exactly where I want them to be. Pushing out a ton of very different games that are still very much them. Gives me late 90s early 00s vibes really.
Live A Live was great. Diofield was better than expected, Valkyrie Elysium and Star Ocean are both very entertaining, and Tactics Ogre is and always will be marvellous.
We've also had some voice of cards games.
You can't possibly have played any of these games.
Of forgot about Triangle Strategy, best game of the year.
SE is exactly where I want them to be. Pushing out a ton of very different games that are still very much them. Gives me late 90s early 00s vibes really.
anthony2690
Banned
Like someone above said, it's probably the most I've purchased from them in years.
Really enjoyed Diofield Chronicles!
Really enjoyed Diofield Chronicles!
Without going this far as to say everything Square is publishing is garbage, yes i have trouble believing that games such as Diofield or Valkyrie are actually "great" and "awesome" and that i would have known better if i had played them.
I don't know if it's a thing with japanese publishers or if you're not even allowed to say Ubisoft games are shit without being called out for not playing them and not being an "enthusiast" (or perhaps this is because these games are not AAA i don't know).
(i played games like Octopath though, nice game but i would not say great for example)
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NightmareFarm
Member
Im inclined to agree because they delayed Forspoken twice
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I don't think it's just a "japanese publisher" thing, it's just that a lot of people (myself included) really enjoy the types of games that SE has released this year. I'd rather play a variety of budget / AA games that try new and different things with mostly non-established franchises or new IPs than a single AAA mega-hit.
The difference with something like Ubisoft is that their games are almost always the same. Anymore, they're a lot like the annual sports games that get released every year, sell millions of copies, but are mostly identical to the previous year's sports game with a few updated stats or minor gameplay tweaks. It's easy to voice an opinion about the newest Assassin's Creed game - even if you haven't played it - because it's almost cookie cutter identical to the last 4 games in the franchise. The same is true with Far Cry.
Meanwhile, something like Diofield Chroncile is pretty unique (a real time strategy version of Final Fantasy Tactic's formula), so in this case you're going to get some pushback saying it sucks (when you haven't played it). You'd be forgiven for thinking it's just like Octopath Traveller, Triangle Strategy, or Various Daylife (they all use the same logo, so...) but it's actually a unique experience that a lot of people are going to feel like you need to play to judge.
Another example is the Voice of Cards games. They're pretty similar to traditional tabletop roleplaying games of yesteryear, and rely heavily on the game's narration being engaging (hence "VOICE" of cards). I'll be the first to admit that it's not for everyone, and I personally thought it was somewhat mediocre especially for the price, but I still think those games are awesome because they're engaging and unique and have qualities that are difficult to explain to someone who hasn't also experienced it.
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
Thank you. As I tell my employees opinions don't always count but data does. Besides, I've pre-ordered Harvestella and have trouble seeing it as a failure since only the demo is out as of now...
Square/enix is better off doing the smaller scale rpgs at this point. I dont think the aaa scale ff are worth the risk anymore. Considering their budget, time to develop and units sold. One big ff bomb can prob ruin them at this point.
Square was at its peak during the snes,ps 1 days. The legendary snes rpgs speak for themselves but you also had ps1 gems such as bushido blade, parasite eve, tobal no 1, einhander and brave fencer mushashi that are all but forgotten.
Square was at its peak during the snes,ps 1 days. The legendary snes rpgs speak for themselves but you also had ps1 gems such as bushido blade, parasite eve, tobal no 1, einhander and brave fencer mushashi that are all but forgotten.
pleaseinsertdisctwo
Member
Stranger of Paradise genuinely became one of my favorite games of all time, so no.
Plus I fully intend to buy Star Ocean VI, Tactics Ogre Reborn, and Crisis Core: Reunion.
Lots of A/AA releases, and most haven’t appealed to me, but that’s fine.
Very dramatic thread. And next year there’s XVI (and Forspoken, to those it appeals to), plus probably some Dragon Quest project.
Edit: oh you’re one of those people that can’t understand why FFVII with modern visuals and AAA standards can’t be one game. lol
Plus I fully intend to buy Star Ocean VI, Tactics Ogre Reborn, and Crisis Core: Reunion.
Lots of A/AA releases, and most haven’t appealed to me, but that’s fine.
Very dramatic thread. And next year there’s XVI (and Forspoken, to those it appeals to), plus probably some Dragon Quest project.
Edit: oh you’re one of those people that can’t understand why FFVII with modern visuals and AAA standards can’t be one game. lol
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pleaseinsertdisctwo
Member
A mainline non-MMO FF has never bombed. And even then, the one FF that initially bombed eventually transformed into their biggest cash cow to date.
Plus it’s more than just game sales. They utilize music/characters/assets from mainlines in other games, such as spin-offs. People who loved said mainline game might be enticed to buy that other game. Then there’s merchandise, concerts, etc. that generate a profit.
Clearly, there’s a reason why they keep making mainline FF’s, otherwise they would stick to their cash cow MMO (which is a self-proclaimed “Final Fantasy theme park”) and their cash cow mobile games (which are also definitely “Final Fantasy theme parks”).
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March Climber
Member
This thread is what happens when someone tries to convince an audience that their personal opinion is fact.
A tragic backfire.
A tragic backfire.
Kokoloko85
Member
Triangle Strategy isn’t mediocre
OsirisBlack
Banned
No it is not and neither is Diofield the nerve of that guy.
Bragr
Banned
Last year was considerably worse though.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Triangle Strategy is awesome tho.
Swift_Star
Banned
Nah
fran.fernandez
Member
Aren’t they making tons of money with switch and others?
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“Net sales for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2022 totaled ¥365,275 million (an increase of 9.8% from the prior fiscal year) and operating income amounted to ¥59,261 million (an increase of 25.5% from the prior fiscal year)”
Yup bad
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“Net sales for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2022 totaled ¥365,275 million (an increase of 9.8% from the prior fiscal year) and operating income amounted to ¥59,261 million (an increase of 25.5% from the prior fiscal year)”
Yup bad
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Swift_Star
Banned
Where does it say that?
yurinka
Member
No. I think they didn't have a great year but also didn't have a bad year.
They had some bad/mediocre games, but other ones were good, and soon they'll have Crisis Core remake and Forspoken (which was supposed to be released this year). They also included a good chunk of stuff on subs like PS Plus this year. Their financials are good, too.
They had some bad/mediocre games, but other ones were good, and soon they'll have Crisis Core remake and Forspoken (which was supposed to be released this year). They also included a good chunk of stuff on subs like PS Plus this year. Their financials are good, too.
I don't know about that. I've been loving all of their A or AA or whatever people call it, output of the last few years. I know people have huge boners for the triple A games but I prefer surprising stuff like Diofield Chronicle and Project Triangle. Great games.
Haven't played Valkyrie Elysium and the new Star Ocean yet but those look right up my alley as well.
Haven't played Valkyrie Elysium and the new Star Ocean yet but those look right up my alley as well.
Swift_Star
Banned
That doesn't mean they're surviving solely because of FFXIV. At all.