Also you....
Sir....when you are saying he um "feels like an action hero" only to then be like "not the hero, but"
Yeaaaaaaa ok pal. Not this but, oh he is this, but lol
He kills Marlene surrendering from his perspective and he lies from his perspective too bud... None of that changes objective facts....
lol I can't man.
You fucking can't make this shit up, in the very post you are saying "not hero but" and then go on to say "establishing a heroic"
At the end of the day, we see him asked to leave, not killed on sight, we see him kill several people unarmed, we see him kill Marlene while she is surrendering, we see him lie to Ellie.
That fucking has NOTHING to do with perspective, those things factually fucking happened sir.
Even to make some "hero" ending, we'd need Joel being attacked as soon as he gets there with the girl and they like "its was a trap THE WHOLE TIME JOEL" lol (evil lolz laugh)
We'd need him to fight off all the armed people, fight Marlene at the end in a fire fight and have her like "I surrender Joel" and Joel being the "good guy" and or "hero" would say some shit like "oh Marlene, we funa head out cuh...OH SHIT" and she tires to kill him and he HAS to kill her back ala Goku fighting Freeza in the classic hero trope bullshit lol
None of that shit is happening sir, like zero.
You should have gotten that hint when he killed an unarmed person begging to live and then LYING about the entire thing to Ellie, none of that sounds like a "hero" type idea