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"I Need a New PC!" 2022. The GPU drought continues...

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Umbasaborne

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Im buying a pre built pc and planning on just hooking it right up to my lg oled. I dont have a monitor, has anyone had the experience of getting a new pc and hooking it up to the tv. This will also be my first gaming pc, so im not sure what to expect
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Im buying a pre built pc and planning on just hooking it right up to my lg oled. I dont have a monitor, has anyone had the experience of getting a new pc and hooking it up to the tv. This will also be my first gaming pc, so im not sure what to expect
Yeah, you just connect your hdmi or whatever cable and that's it.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I see all these videos about 4080s not selling, yet I don't see a single one available at Microcenter, Amazon, Newegg, etc....

They're a terrible value, but what am I missing?
 

hinch7

Member
I see all these videos about 4080s not selling, yet I don't see a single one available at Microcenter, Amazon, Newegg, etc....

They're a terrible value, but what am I missing?
Maybe its buyers who are biting, after holding out on RX 7900 series reviews and decided to skip it in favor of Nvidia cards instead. Seeing as RDNA 3 fell qutie a bit behind expectations.
 
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poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Maybe its buyers who are biting, after holding out on RX 7900 series reviews and decided to skip it in favor of Nvidia cards instead. Seeing as RDNA 3 fell qutie a bit behind expectations.
Plus there weren't reports of it gathering dust on shelves just that scalpers were struggling to sell at a significant mark-up.
Plus I see a Gigabyte 4080 available on newegg right now for $1260
 
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hinch7

Member
Plus there weren't reports of it gathering dust on shelves just that scalpers were struggling to sell at a significant mark-up.
Plus I see a Gigabyte 4080 available on newegg right now for $1260
Yeah in any case they aren't exactly flying off shelves. Nvidia really do need to discount these cards for them to sell. After the Holidays these are going to continue to gather dust, after the big spending period (and year) if prices remain as they are. Because ain't nobody interested in these overpriced 80 series cards.

Same with AMD and the 7900XT. Aka the renamed 80 tier card with extra tax on top.
 
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Hawk269

Member
I see all these videos about 4080s not selling, yet I don't see a single one available at Microcenter, Amazon, Newegg, etc....

They're a terrible value, but what am I missing?
If you are in the market for a 4080, I would seriously suggest that you hold out until you budget allows you to buy a 4090. For $400 more you get a hell of a lot more performance...but that also depends on what resolution/frame rate you are targeting. The price to performance for the 4080 is a bit high and yes, grante the 4090 is a lot more, it's price to performance is better.
 
Maybe its buyers who are biting, after holding out on RX 7900 series reviews and decided to skip it in favor of Nvidia cards instead. Seeing as RDNA 3 fell qutie a bit behind expectations.
that was me. waited to see what the new AMD card were like. i can't see any prices here but seems like it'll be about £1,000 for the XTX. for another £200 i'm getting DLSS and better Raytracing. Totally worth it for me and if the XTX is about £1,000 it makes the 4080 look like a good deal.

yeah i know the 4090 is better value for just another £400 i get better performance. but i also would need to deal with extra power consumption and honestly i don't need that extra performance. the 4080 is giving me roughly double the performance of my 2080 and i'm more than happy with that.

i paid total of £1420 for my new gpu and PSU. if i already had a PSU powerful enough then maybe i'd have found another £200 for a 4090.

i'm kinda kicking myself for spending this much money. if nvidia want to sell more they HAVE to drop prices. i'm an idiot and a lot of people are smarter than me. that's why i bought it lol and i wanted it now instead of waiting next year for a potential price drop. that said, i'm really happy with my 4080. insane performance and i don't mean just gaming. it runs a lot cooler, quieter, and efficient.
 

hinch7

Member
that was me. waited to see what the new AMD card were like. i can't see any prices here but seems like it'll be about £1,000 for the XTX. for another £200 i'm getting DLSS and better Raytracing. Totally worth it for me and if the XTX is about £1,000 it makes the 4080 look like a good deal.

yeah i know the 4090 is better value for just another £400 i get better performance. but i also would need to deal with extra power consumption and honestly i don't need that extra performance. the 4080 is giving me roughly double the performance of my 2080 and i'm more than happy with that.

i paid total of £1420 for my new gpu and PSU. if i already had a PSU powerful enough then maybe i'd have found another £200 for a 4090.

i'm kinda kicking myself for spending this much money. if nvidia want to sell more they HAVE to drop prices. i'm an idiot and a lot of people are smarter than me. that's why i bought it lol and i wanted it now instead of waiting next year for a potential price drop. that said, i'm really happy with my 4080. insane performance and i don't mean just gaming. it runs a lot cooler, quieter, and efficient.
That's fair. I probably would've done the same.. RT is not a gimmick anymore with more and more games releasing with it. And honestly if you're happy, its worth the cash. Its a card that'll last you some years with its RT performance and the latest DLSS support. Granted. its quite pricey, the enjoyment you get out of it is worth it rather that waiting for god knows how long for these to drop in price. And like you said there are other factors like you said.. like power draw and needing more powerful PSU etc to handle the 4090. And iof you don't need that extra performance why spend more.. use that money saved on games and other things.

I personally always go for the mid/high end of the stack (7XX) so I'm out of the game for now. Hopefully next will bring better value, otherwise I'm going to look into the the used market lol.

Ngl I was so close to pulling the trigger on an reference 7900XTX on OcUK.. since they do have a good selection of cards.. but decided against it. Not spending that much money to have middling RT and unfinished drivers.
 
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That's fair. I probably would've done the same.. RT is not a gimmick anymore with more and more games releasing with it. And honestly if you're happy, its worth the cash. Its a card that'll last you some years with its RT performance and the latest DLSS support. Granted. its quite pricey, the enjoyment you get out of it is worth it rather that waiting for god knows how long for these to drop in price. And like you said there are other factors like you said.. like power draw and needing more powerful PSU etc to handle the 4090. And iof you don't need that extra performance why spend more.. use that money saved on games and other things.

I personally always go for the mid/high end of the stack (7XX) so I'm out of the game for now. Hopefully next will bring better value, otherwise I'm going to look into the the used market lol.

Ngl I was so close to pulling the trigger on an reference 7900XTX on OcUK.. since they do have a good selection of cards.. but decided against it. Not spending that much money to have middling RT and unfinished drivers.
rtx definitely ain't a gimmick anymore.

the raytracing performance on this card is impressive. with my 2080 cyberpunk was basically a slideshow with an average of 21fps. that's the game running balls to the wall maxed out! 4080 is averaging 55fps (without DLSS!) and it's doing that while running 17C cooler and 13W less power.
Is there a dedicated thread for laptops or can I ask for advice here?

you can ask here. probably the best place so what's your question? :)
 
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GreatnessRD

Member
This should be the final build if i decide to buy the 6950 xt (ignore the prices and the slowest ssd, it's my current one and i'm not throwing away).

Any final thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnvHZw

I still have to buy the ram, cpu and gpu.
Looks solid to me, but please don't pay for Windows. Just download it off Microsoft's site and then buy a key for $15-$20 (Depending if you're fortunate enough to hit a sale) But $100 for Windows sound absolutely insane, lol. And then with that savings, you could get you a 2 TB Gen4 NVME like the Crucial P5 Plus. Shouldn't be much more than that WD 850 in euro monies.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
Looks solid to me, but please don't pay for Windows. Just download it off Microsoft's site and then buy a key for $15-$20 (Depending if you're fortunate enough to hit a sale) But $100 for Windows sound absolutely insane, lol. And then with that savings, you could get you a 2 TB Gen4 NVME like the Crucial P5 Plus. Shouldn't be much more than that WD 850 in euro monies.
I'm not gonna pay for windows of course.

The WD 1tb i bought was in super-deal during the black friday, and i had zero problems with a 500 gb ssd for many years so 1tb is way more than enough.

(also the WD should be the faster ssd of the bunch and it has the heatsink included)
 
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supernova8

Banned
you can ask here. probably the best place so what's your question? :)
Thanks much appreciated.

Basically I'm trying to pick a gaming laptop but there are so many options and the reviews seem to be a bit all over the place (for the same laptop) at times.

Also, I'll explain why I want a laptop as opposed to desktop first since I know someone will mention that. Essentially we have our home office (where I work and where my shit but still gaming-capable desktop is). My girlfriend also works in that same home office so ideally I want to switch to a laptop (my plan would be to sell the parts from my PC to partially recoup the cost of the laptop) that I can use for my work in the home office (the work side is just connecting to a remote desktop so nothing intensive) and then unplug my laptop from my monitors and take it into the lounge, plug it into our TV (4K but I'd be happy running at 1080p or 1440p medium settings) and play some games.

CPU: I'm under the impression that Ryzen has the better battery life but Intel has the better performance. I'm not sure how often I would use it unplugged so I'm not wedded to either CPU "team" although from pricing, Ryzen seems to be consistently cheaper.

GPU: Looking at a bunch of JarrodsTech videos it looks like I'd be good with a decently-juiced RTX 3060 Mobile (for reference my desktop has a 1650 so anything is a major step up)
RAM: Ideally at least 16GB but I would upgrade it anyway so a must would be having both slots upgradeable
Storage: nVME SSD of course. 512GB would probably be fine as long as there's space for an extra SSD under the hood.
Display: High refresh rate is a must (144Hz) and I would of course like decent response time and color gamut but I guess it all depends on price.

Other things:
-One thing I really do want is for it to be light and not get crazy hot. I can tolerate loud fans since I'd probably wear headphones but I cannot stand laptops that get extremely hot.
-If we're assuming Ryzen, I'm happy to go with a 5800-something, the new 6000 series seems pointless if I don't need the integrated graphics.
-I'd like to avoid a gaming laptop that visually screams "gaming laptop!" so I have no interest in crazy RGB and I also would prefer not to have multi-colored WSAD keys especially since I'm left-handed so I don't use them.

Price: I don't want to spend an absolute fortune. I've set my budget at 150,000 yen (I'm in Japan). I can go maybe 10,000 yen higher if it's an irresistible deal.
Of course there's that notion with laptops that you should buy the "absolute best at the time" so that it lasts since most of it is not upgradeable but I just don't feel the need to spend that sort of money.

So in a nutshell I'm looking for:
- the best possible laptop (I guess upper-budget) I can find for around 150,000 yen striking a balance between the considerations mentioned above.

Extra tidbit: Another thought I had was.... maybe I'd be better off buying a Steam Deck and making some upgrades to my current (AM4-based PC)?

I calculated that for the same 150,000 yen I could buy:
1) the base Steam Deck (59,000 yen, emmc storage only)
2) an 2230 ssd for it (16,000 yen for 512gb)
3) a 6600 XT (for like 30,000 yen used)
4) a 5800X3D (for about 45,000 yen)

which miraculously comes to exactly 150,000 yen

Laptops I've seen for around 150,000 (give or take) that seemed good:

IdeaPad Gaming 370i Core i5 12500H・16GB RAM・512GB SSD・RTX 3060
¥139,700



Dell G15 Ryzen 7 6800H・16GB RAM・512GB SSD・RTX 3060
¥158,980


Legion 570i Core i7 12700H・16GB RAM 1TB SSD・RTX 3060
¥174,790


There are also some cheaper ASUS TUF machines but I was under the impression they're not very good build quality. Only concern I have about Lenovo ones is that they seem to be extremely heavy..

Fucking hell it's difficult to choose a laptop and I thought I was a least decent with PC parts.
 
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Thanks much appreciated.

Basically I'm trying to pick a gaming laptop but there are so many options and the reviews seem to be a bit all over the place (for the same laptop) at times.

Also, I'll explain why I want a laptop as opposed to desktop first since I know someone will mention that. Essentially we have our home office (where I work and where my shit but still gaming-capable desktop is). My girlfriend also works in that same home office so ideally I want to switch to a laptop (my plan would be to sell the parts from my PC to partially recoup the cost of the laptop) that I can use for my work in the home office (the work side is just connecting to a remote desktop so nothing intensive) and then unplug my laptop from my monitors and take it into the lounge, plug it into our TV (4K but I'd be happy running at 1080p or 1440p medium settings) and play some games.

CPU: I'm under the impression that Ryzen has the better battery life but Intel has the better performance. I'm not sure how often I would use it unplugged so I'm not wedded to either CPU "team" although from pricing, Ryzen seems to be consistently cheaper.

GPU: Looking at a bunch of JarrodsTech videos it looks like I'd be good with a decently-juiced RTX 3060 Mobile (for reference my desktop has a 1650 so anything is a major step up)
RAM: Ideally at least 16GB but I would upgrade it anyway so a must would be having both slots upgradeable
Storage: nVME SSD of course. 512GB would probably be fine as long as there's space for an extra SSD under the hood.
Display: High refresh rate is a must (144Hz) and I would of course like decent response time and color gamut but I guess it all depends on price.

Other things:
-One thing I really do want is for it to be light and not get crazy hot. I can tolerate loud fans since I'd probably wear headphones but I cannot stand laptops that get extremely hot.
-If we're assuming Ryzen, I'm happy to go with a 5800-something, the new 6000 series seems pointless if I don't need the integrated graphics.
-I'd like to avoid a gaming laptop that visually screams "gaming laptop!" so I have no interest in crazy RGB and I also would prefer not to have multi-colored WSAD keys especially since I'm left-handed so I don't use them.

Price: I don't want to spend an absolute fortune. I've set my budget at 150,000 yen (I'm in Japan). I can go maybe 10,000 yen higher if it's an irresistible deal.
Of course there's that notion with laptops that you should buy the "absolute best at the time" so that it lasts since most of it is not upgradeable but I just don't feel the need to spend that sort of money.

So in a nutshell I'm looking for:
- the best possible laptop (I guess upper-budget) I can find for around 150,000 yen striking a balance between the considerations mentioned above.

Extra tidbit: Another thought I had was.... maybe I'd be better off buying a Steam Deck and making some upgrades to my current (AM4-based PC)?

I calculated that for the same 150,000 yen I could buy:
1) the base Steam Deck (59,000 yen, emmc storage only)
2) an 2230 ssd for it (16,000 yen for 512gb)
3) a 6600 XT (for like 30,000 yen used)
4) a 5800X3D (for about 45,000 yen)

which miraculously comes to exactly 150,000 yen

Laptops I've seen for around 150,000 (give or take) that seemed good:

IdeaPad Gaming 370i Core i5 12500H・16GB RAM・512GB SSD・RTX 3060
¥139,700



Dell G15 Ryzen 7 6800H・16GB RAM・512GB SSD・RTX 3060
¥158,980


Legion 570i Core i7 12700H・16GB RAM 1TB SSD・RTX 3060
¥174,790


There are also some cheaper ASUS TUF machines but I was under the impression they're not very good build quality. Only concern I have about Lenovo ones is that they seem to be extremely heavy..

Fucking hell it's difficult to choose a laptop and I thought I was a least decent with PC parts.
if you only want a laptop for portability to play games then i'd just get a Steam Deck. it seems you can use a cable to get it to display on your TV. might be a bit of a hassle but you're still going to need to do the same if you get a laptop. also i think you can use the Steam Deck as a PC so if you need to do some work stuff you could do that too. the thing is you'd be dealing with Linux and not Windows. i don't know how easy it is to remote in your work PC through linux or if your work supports it.

then you can upgrade your other PC. a 5800X3D/6600XT combo would be a serious build.

if i were to pick a PC i'd probably just go for the 139,700 one. the Dell looks fine but it's up to you what one you like the look of more and if you want Ryzen or Intel. as for upgradability you'd need to see what each one can do but i imagine there wouldn't be much problem trying to upgrade ram or SSDs.
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
The liquid in the heatpipes of cpu coolers doesn't evaporate over time, right? My Noctua NH-D14 is 11 years old and still seems fine
 
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The Stig

Member
Hi all,

Looking for advice since I've not looked at this kind of thing since NFTs shitted everything up. My home built PC is showing its age when gaming and Id like to upgrade.

mobo:
Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 6
proc:
Intel Core i5-6600K (overclocked to 4.4ghz)
GPU:
Strix overclocked NVIDIA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
RAM:
32gb of this:

I have multiple SSDs (samsung 850s)

I'll still be gaming @1080 most likely as I like my monitor.

Im assuming I should start with my GPU. I dont want to spend a fuck ton. Maybe $400 ish.

Any recommendations?
 

supernova8

Banned
if you only want a laptop for portability to play games then i'd just get a Steam Deck. it seems you can use a cable to get it to display on your TV. might be a bit of a hassle but you're still going to need to do the same if you get a laptop. also i think you can use the Steam Deck as a PC so if you need to do some work stuff you could do that too. the thing is you'd be dealing with Linux and not Windows. i don't know how easy it is to remote in your work PC through linux or if your work supports it.

then you can upgrade your other PC. a 5800X3D/6600XT combo would be a serious build.

if i were to pick a PC i'd probably just go for the 139,700 one. the Dell looks fine but it's up to you what one you like the look of more and if you want Ryzen or Intel. as for upgradability you'd need to see what each one can do but i imagine there wouldn't be much problem trying to upgrade ram or SSDs.
Thanks a lot for your reply, I appreciate it.

I should probably row back a bit - so the upgrade route may not be good since my whole plan was to not play video games in the "office" room in our house (since my girlfriend seems to be working all the time), which is probably why I was looking at a laptop with good enough specs to stand on its own feet as a gaming device.

I think my work's software does support linux since my work laptop (yeah forgot to mention that lol) is basically a locked down linux distro specifically provided to connect to our remote desktop. Not sure whether the linux software is available for me to put on another linux device but anyway no big deal.

Also from the reviews I've seen, it looks like the Dell has the best cooling (ie gets the least hot) but is still pretty damn heavy (2.5kg). Lenovo 370i is a tad heavier at 2.6kg so I guess by my own standards they should both be out of the question. That said, I probably won't be taking it out the house that often so maybe......

Fucking hell part of me wants to get an ASUS G14 but it's so much more expensive
Cut It Out Reaction GIF
 

supernova8

Banned
Hi all,

Looking for advice since I've not looked at this kind of thing since NFTs shitted everything up. My home built PC is showing its age when gaming and Id like to upgrade.

mobo:
Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 6
proc:
Intel Core i5-6600K (overclocked to 4.4ghz)
GPU:
Strix overclocked NVIDIA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
RAM:
32gb of this:

I have multiple SSDs (samsung 850s)

I'll still be gaming @1080 most likely as I like my monitor.

Im assuming I should start with my GPU. I dont want to spend a fuck ton. Maybe $400 ish.

Any recommendations?



This guy tested with an RTX 3060 (which I was going to suggest) and you can see the 6600k hamstrings the hell out of the GPU.
On the bright side, you're almost definitely still getting a major uplift versus that 1060 and then whenever you do upgrade the overall platform (ie chuck out that old motherboard) you get an automatic big bump.
Just from the Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1080p benchmark he has, (assuming you bought a 3060) you'd get a 54% FPS improvement just from upgrading your system to one running a 12600k.

If it were my build I would upgrade to a 3060 or maybe a 6600XT (seems to be much cheaper for actually better performance anyway excluding RT) for now to tide me over, and then look at upgrading the overall platform later when it really is on its last legs.
 
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Raphael

Member
Thanks much appreciated.

Basically I'm trying to pick a gaming laptop but there are so many options and the reviews seem to be a bit all over the place (for the same laptop) at times.

Also, I'll explain why I want a laptop as opposed to desktop first since I know someone will mention that. Essentially we have our home office (where I work and where my shit but still gaming-capable desktop is). My girlfriend also works in that same home office so ideally I want to switch to a laptop (my plan would be to sell the parts from my PC to partially recoup the cost of the laptop) that I can use for my work in the home office (the work side is just connecting to a remote desktop so nothing intensive) and then unplug my laptop from my monitors and take it into the lounge, plug it into our TV (4K but I'd be happy running at 1080p or 1440p medium settings) and play some games.

CPU: I'm under the impression that Ryzen has the better battery life but Intel has the better performance. I'm not sure how often I would use it unplugged so I'm not wedded to either CPU "team" although from pricing, Ryzen seems to be consistently cheaper.

GPU: Looking at a bunch of JarrodsTech videos it looks like I'd be good with a decently-juiced RTX 3060 Mobile (for reference my desktop has a 1650 so anything is a major step up)
RAM: Ideally at least 16GB but I would upgrade it anyway so a must would be having both slots upgradeable
Storage: nVME SSD of course. 512GB would probably be fine as long as there's space for an extra SSD under the hood.
Display: High refresh rate is a must (144Hz) and I would of course like decent response time and color gamut but I guess it all depends on price.

Other things:
-One thing I really do want is for it to be light and not get crazy hot. I can tolerate loud fans since I'd probably wear headphones but I cannot stand laptops that get extremely hot.
-If we're assuming Ryzen, I'm happy to go with a 5800-something, the new 6000 series seems pointless if I don't need the integrated graphics.
-I'd like to avoid a gaming laptop that visually screams "gaming laptop!" so I have no interest in crazy RGB and I also would prefer not to have multi-colored WSAD keys especially since I'm left-handed so I don't use them.

Price: I don't want to spend an absolute fortune. I've set my budget at 150,000 yen (I'm in Japan). I can go maybe 10,000 yen higher if it's an irresistible deal.
Of course there's that notion with laptops that you should buy the "absolute best at the time" so that it lasts since most of it is not upgradeable but I just don't feel the need to spend that sort of money.

So in a nutshell I'm looking for:
- the best possible laptop (I guess upper-budget) I can find for around 150,000 yen striking a balance between the considerations mentioned above.

Extra tidbit: Another thought I had was.... maybe I'd be better off buying a Steam Deck and making some upgrades to my current (AM4-based PC)?

I calculated that for the same 150,000 yen I could buy:
1) the base Steam Deck (59,000 yen, emmc storage only)
2) an 2230 ssd for it (16,000 yen for 512gb)
3) a 6600 XT (for like 30,000 yen used)
4) a 5800X3D (for about 45,000 yen)

which miraculously comes to exactly 150,000 yen

Laptops I've seen for around 150,000 (give or take) that seemed good:

IdeaPad Gaming 370i Core i5 12500H・16GB RAM・512GB SSD・RTX 3060
¥139,700

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Dell G15 Ryzen 7 6800H・16GB RAM・512GB SSD・RTX 3060
¥158,980

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Legion 570i Core i7 12700H・16GB RAM 1TB SSD・RTX 3060
¥174,790

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There are also some cheaper ASUS TUF machines but I was under the impression they're not very good build quality. Only concern I have about Lenovo ones is that they seem to be extremely heavy..

Fucking hell it's difficult to choose a laptop and I thought I was a least decent with PC parts.
I think in your case i would get the deck if your mobo can handle the upgrade. You can also get a sd card instead of the ssd (marginal difference in speed) and maybe get the dock as well. Sounds like this would suit your needs. Of course you would get a worse picture in your lounge when hooking to the tv but the work station would be miles better.

Not sure here - but i think i would downgrade the cpu for a better gpu tho unless you consider upgrading the gpu in the future and want to have a fantastic cpu already.
 

supernova8

Banned
I think in your case i would get the deck if your mobo can handle the upgrade. You can also get a sd card instead of the ssd (marginal difference in speed) and maybe get the dock as well. Sounds like this would suit your needs. Of course you would get a worse picture in your lounge when hooking to the tv but the work station would be miles better.
Yes this is my concern with the Deck because I know its basically a 720p-900p device and probably wouldn't look good on the TV.
Not sure here - but i think i would downgrade the cpu for a better gpu tho unless you consider upgrading the gpu in the future and want to have a fantastic cpu already.
That's a fair suggestion, I don't need max and not bothered about ray tracing.. I have a 165 hz monitor so of course it would be great to take advantage of that but as long as I can comfortably game over 60fps at high-ish settings I would be happy. Also I guess I don't typically play the absolute newest cutting edge games, but I would like to try to God of War and Death Stranding (my 1650 would struggle with both).

what combo would you suggest for someone who just wants decent 1080p high-ish settings?

For reference, my PC is currently:

- ASUS TUF B450M motherboard
- Ryzen 3400G APU
- 32 GB (16 x 2) DDR4 2666mhz HP memory
- 512 gb m.2 NVME SSD
- Japanese brand 600w PSW
- Japanese brand GTX 1650

If I were to get a 5800 X3D (about 48,000 yen new) and a 6600XT (30,000 yen used) it would cost me roughly 80,000 yen.

I could instead get something like a 5600G for 18,000 yen and then get a much more powerful GPU.
That would free up an additional 30,000 yen, which in Japan (used) would get me something more like a 3070 Ti.

The reason I'm thinking an APU (if I didn't get a 5800X3D) is that the mobo is microATX so I could get a smaller case and repurpose it into a smaller (light gaming and/or media) PC for the lounge or something later on down the line without needing to buy a new GPU.

Sorry for all the rambling, any thoughts?
 
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JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
If you are in the market for a 4080, I would seriously suggest that you hold out until you budget allows you to buy a 4090. For $400 more you get a hell of a lot more performance...but that also depends on what resolution/frame rate you are targeting. The price to performance for the 4080 is a bit high and yes, grante the 4090 is a lot more, it's price to performance is better.
Im not in the market for a 4080. At all. I still have my perfectly good EVGA 3080 12GB.

I’m just laughing at all the dumbasses who missed out on the $700 cards of the 3080 thinking prices were still going to drop. you guys were told to buy one then, but you ignored that nvidia was doing.

My point was, that I’m seeing people say the 4080s aren’t selling, yet none of the big retailers seem to have much stock. I’m just not seeing evidence that they’re readily available.
 
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winjer

Gold Member
Yes this is my concern with the Deck because I know its basically a 720p-900p device and probably wouldn't look good on the TV.

That's a fair suggestion, I don't need max and not bothered about ray tracing.. I have a 165 hz monitor so of course it would be great to take advantage of that but as long as I can comfortably game over 60fps at high-ish settings I would be happy. Also I guess I don't typically play the absolute newest cutting edge games, but I would like to try to God of War and Death Stranding (my 1650 would struggle with both).

what combo would you suggest for someone who just wants decent 1080p high-ish settings?

For reference, my PC is currently:

- ASUS TUF B450M motherboard
- Ryzen 3400G APU
- 32 GB (16 x 2) DDR4 2666mhz HP memory
- 512 gb m.2 NVME SSD
- Japanese brand 600w PSW
- Japanese brand GTX 1650

If I were to get a 5800 X3D (about 48,000 yen new) and a 6600XT (30,000 yen used) it would cost me roughly 80,000 yen.

I could instead get something like a 5600G for 18,000 yen and then get a much more powerful GPU.
That would free up an additional 30,000 yen, which in Japan (used) would get me something more like a 3070 Ti.

The reason I'm thinking an APU (if I didn't get a 5800X3D) is that the mobo is microATX so I could get a smaller case and repurpose it into a smaller (light gaming and/or media) PC for the lounge or something later on down the line without needing to buy a new GPU.

Sorry for all the rambling, any thoughts?

A 5800X3D would be bottleneck by a 6600XT, even at 1080p.
A better choice would be a 5600X, get faster memory as not to bottleneck your CPU, and get a better GPU.
For memory, at least 3200MT/s.
I don't know prices around you, but this could mean you could afford a 3070 or 3070Ti.
 

The Stig

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This guy tested with an RTX 3060 (which I was going to suggest) and you can see the 6600k hamstrings the hell out of the GPU.
On the bright side, you're almost definitely still getting a major uplift versus that 1060 and then whenever you do upgrade the overall platform (ie chuck out that old motherboard) you get an automatic big bump.
Just from the Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1080p benchmark he has, (assuming you bought a 3060) you'd get a 54% FPS improvement just from upgrading your system to one running a 12600k.

If it were my build I would upgrade to a 3060 or maybe a 6600XT (seems to be much cheaper for actually better performance anyway excluding RT) for now to tide me over, and then look at upgrading the overall platform later when it really is on its last legs.

argh. so if I upgrade my GPU now itll be hamstrung. I think Ill do that then put some money together to get a new mobo and proc. is there a mobo you could recommend? (I have a lot of HDDs and SSDs, im a hoarder)
 

Zug

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If you are in the market for a 4080, I would seriously suggest that you hold out until you budget allows you to buy a 4090. For $400 more you get a hell of a lot more performance...but that also depends on what resolution/frame rate you are targeting. The price to performance for the 4080 is a bit high and yes, grante the 4090 is a lot more, it's price to performance is better.
Here you can somewhat find 4080s in the 1500-1800€ range, but 4090s are much more rare and in the 2300-2700€ range, quite a difference.
Geez, the GPU market is so depressing.
 

hinch7

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Here you can somewhat find 4080s in the 1500-1800€ range, but 4090s are much more rare and in the 2300-2700€ range, quite a difference.
Geez, the GPU market is so depressing.
On the other hand it may be a blessing in disguise. You can catch up on old games and backlog if you have older hardware or consoles and leave Nvidia and AMD to crash the market themselves.

Pick up a graphics card down the line when the actual next generation games are out, and both adjust prices to where the should be.
 

GymWolf

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So i'm getting an msi 4080 gaming trio, a 13600kf and 32 gb of ddr5 5600 cl36 corsair for just 1483 euros, it's like i'm not even paying for the cpu and ram:lollipop_squinting:

Last chance to convince me to get a 13600k because i need an integrated gpu to do a troubleshot even if i don't have idea how to do a troubleshot, let alone solve a complicated problem and i just usually end taking the pc for a ride in some pc shop to get it fixed. (happened only once luckily)
 
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So i'm getting an msi 4080 gaming trio, a 13600kf and 32 gb of ddr5 5600 cl36 corsair for just 1483 euros, it's like i'm not even paying for the cpu and ram:lollipop_squinting:

Any last chance to convince me to get a 13600k because i need an integrated gpu to do a troubleshot even if i don't have idea how to do a troubleshot, let alone solve a complicated problem and i just usually end taking the pc for a ride in some pc shop to get it fixed. (happened only once luckily)
it's simple. if you think you will need an iGPU at any point then get the K model. if you want to save a bit of money and are 100% sure you will never need the iGPU because either you'll take it to get fixed or you have a spare GPU to use if you need to troubleshoot or serve as a temporary replacement.

personally i'll always get the K only model. here the difference in price is £29. that's basically nothing if i'm dropping £1k + on a system. i might not use it 99.999% of the time but it's useful to have. it actually helped me out a few years ago when i bought my RTX 2080. it died after a few weeks and i had to wait for Nvidia to send out a replacement. i can't remember if there was a 6700KF but i had got that or if i got a 9900KF instead of my current 9900K then my PC would have been unusable until the new GPU arrived. having an iGPU is usefull for troubleshooting any dedicated GPU issues. totally worth it for the £29 in my opinion.
 
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poodaddy

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So i'm getting an msi 4080 gaming trio, a 13600kf and 32 gb of ddr5 5600 cl36 corsair for just 1483 euros, it's like i'm not even paying for the cpu and ram:lollipop_squinting:

Any last chance to convince me to get a 13600k because i need an integrated gpu to do a troubleshot even if i don't have idea how to do a troubleshot, let alone solve a complicated problem and i just usually end taking the pc for a ride in some pc shop to get it fixed. (happened only once luckily)
How in the hell'd you find that deal man?! Just out of curiosity lol. I kinda wanna start getting ready for my next build but the prices are too crazy right now.
 

GymWolf

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How in the hell'd you find that deal man?! Just out of curiosity lol. I kinda wanna start getting ready for my next build but the prices are too crazy right now.
Very good prices in a site, and i detract the 22% vat because i have a business.

There was a 4090 around 1500 euros with the same "technique", if nvidia want to fuck our ass, i'm gonna buttfuck the system.
 
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well, since upgrading to my 4080 i have got the urge to upgrade the rest of my PC :messenger_tears_of_joy:

CPU: was looking at the i9-13900K but then i saw how heavy the power usage is! some tests show it can use almost 500W :messenger_face_screaming: and then it basically hits 100C within seconds. to be fair this is during heavy stress tests so not what i'll see during game but still the card is using insane power. after that i started looking at the 7950X but looking at benchmarks the 7700X is basically the same gaming performance as the 7950X and that's all i need it for. i do a bit of photo/video editing which my 9900K handles well so the 7700X would still be an upgrade for that kind of stuff. i know the 13900K is the best gaming CPU but that power draw put me right off and anyway it's like £600. the 7700X is £330.

Cooler: my current CPU cooler is a bequiet dark rock pro 4 but i don't have the bracket to mount it to LGA 1700. i can buy one for £5-6 i think. i was thinking about getting the Noctua NH-D15 which is £105-110. i'm totally against any kind of liquid cooling so if a NH-D15 can't handle it then i'm not buying it.

if i went AMD then i don't need a new cooler at all. my be quiet should work on AM5 and handle the 7700X.

RAM: i was looking to upgrade to 64GB DDR5 RAM. i don't really need it but seeing games use 19-24GB RAM has me a little worried. again this is probably an extreme situation because the games i saw this was Flight Simulator and Fortnite on Unreal Engine 5.1. Both these games are arguably some of most demanding and or technologically advanced games out right now. Fortnite i think is a decent indicator of how games will look, not visually of course, in a few years as more of them use Unreal Engine 5. that said, even if games do hit 20GB i still would have 12GB left so 32GB is probably fine.

the ram i was looking at for 64GB was corsair vengeance 5600/c40. for 32GB i was going to go with 6000/cl36.

Motherboard: the motherboard i was going to get was the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master (same brand i currently have: z390 aorus master) but it's an E-ATX and i don't want to replace my case. So i was then looking at the Asus ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming Wifi (i think that's the name). I think it's maybe best to leave Gigabyte. The Z390 master i have is really great but a couple minor things have bugged (heh) me. The RGB software is a buggy mess and disables the LEDs on my 4080 so i need to either have the LEDS on my GPU or the LEDS on my motherboard. Can't have both. apparently there is a BIOS version with RGB fusion integrated but I can't find it. In general, it seems Gigabyte has some buggy BIOS issues. I had both Ubuntu + Windows on my system but no matter what I couldn't get back into Ubuntu with secure boot on. After trying to find a fix it seems it's a gigabyte bios issue.

for AM5 the gigabyte master is ATX but £430. the asus rog strix b650e-e is £360.

SSD: either the WD SN850X 2TB or Samsung 980/990 Pro 2TB. the WD has 7.3/6.6GB read/write. the 980 has 7/5GB and the 990 I think was 7.6/6.9GBs.

if i went intel the build was going to cost ~£1,800. by going with the 7700X build it'd be £1,050. so i might not have the best gaming CPU i'll be saving hundreds and still getting decent performance while not using a fuck load of power. also there is the fact that if go intel i'm locked into that. if i go AM5 i can drop a newer CPU in at some point should i choose to do that and without having to buy a whole new motherboard and maybe even worry about mounting brackets for the cooler.

.... and then i read that AMD is releasing 3D variant models next month so after spending hours researching parts i have decided to wait a month or two to see what those new CPUs are like. i'm hoping for a 7700X3D or maybe even a 7800X3D. plus waiting a bit longer will let me get christmas out the way and save up some more money. my 9900K is by no means a slouch but i want to upgrade to something new.
 

GymWolf

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it's simple. if you think you will need an iGPU at any point then get the K model. if you want to save a bit of money and are 100% sure you will never need the iGPU because either you'll take it to get fixed or you have a spare GPU to use if you need to troubleshoot or serve as a temporary replacement.

personally i'll always get the K only model. here the difference in price is £29. that's basically nothing if i'm dropping £1k + on a system. i might not use it 99.999% of the time but it's useful to have. it actually helped me out a few years ago when i bought my RTX 2080. it died after a few weeks and i had to wait for Nvidia to send out a replacement. i can't remember if there was a 6700KF but i had got that or if i got a 9900KF instead of my current 9900K then my PC would have been unusable until the new GPU arrived. having an iGPU is usefull for troubleshooting any dedicated GPU issues. totally worth it for the £29 in my opinion.
That is a good argument, the difference is around 30 euros in here aswell, but right now i'm undecited between the msi gaming trio and the gigabyte gaming OC, the giga is a bit better everywhere except higher wattage required, and it's 30 euros pricier than the msi.

So right now i'm debating where to invest the 30 euros.

I know that when you spend a certain amount of money, 30 or 60 euros are not much, but you have to understand that i already fucked up my initial budget by a lot, so it is more of a mental block, i probably don't need a 2000+++ euros build to play better than a ps5 for 3-5 years to begin with, so i'm already "wasting" a lot of money...

Any advice about the gpu brand debacle is well accepted.
 
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That is a good argument, the difference is around 30 euros in here aswell, but right now i'm undecited between the msi gaming trio and the gigabyte gaming OC, the giga is a bit better everywhere except higher wattage required, and it's 30 euros pricier than the msi.

So right now i'm debating where to invest the 30 euros.

I know that when you spend a certain amount of money, 30 or 60 euros are not much, but you have to understand that i already fucked up my initial budget by a lot, so it is more of a mental block, i probably don't need a 2000+++ euros build to play better than a ps5 for 3-5 years to begin with, so i'm already "wasting" a lot of money...

Any advice about the gpu brand debacle is well accepted.
for GPU.... i'd just get the one you think looks best and cheapest :messenger_tears_of_joy:

personally i'd go with the MSI because i think it looks better but that's just my preference. if 30 euros is a deciding factor to you then it's also cheaper.

i don't know about power consumption but looking at the official product pages the msi uses 320W but i can't see a recommended PSU. the gigabyte recommends at least 850W psu but i can't see power consumption of the card itself.

in terms of clock speeds the MSI says it does 2505-2520MHz and the gigabyte can do 2535. so basically there is no difference. if you OC either GPU it could be that the MSI will overclock more than the Gigabyte. it's just your luck.

other than that.... the Gigabyte is a bigger card. make sure it'll fit in your case and remember you need to keep space for the 12+4 power cable/adapter which i find isn't that easy to bend and you don't want to be putting to much stress on it.
 

GymWolf

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for GPU.... i'd just get the one you think looks best and cheapest :messenger_tears_of_joy:

personally i'd go with the MSI because i think it looks better but that's just my preference. if 30 euros is a deciding factor to you then it's also cheaper.

i don't know about power consumption but looking at the official product pages the msi uses 320W but i can't see a recommended PSU. the gigabyte recommends at least 850W psu but i can't see power consumption of the card itself.

in terms of clock speeds the MSI says it does 2505-2520MHz and the gigabyte can do 2535. so basically there is no difference. if you OC either GPU it could be that the MSI will overclock more than the Gigabyte. it's just your luck.

other than that.... the Gigabyte is a bigger card. make sure it'll fit in your case and remember you need to keep space for the 12+4 power cable/adapter which i find isn't that easy to bend and you don't want to be putting to much stress on it.
So:

-I don't give a fuck about look in a computer, never did, if a 4090 with little pink swarosky dicks all over it was 500 euros cheaper, i would buy that model :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

- i saw some bench for both and the giga should beat the msi, not by much but it looks like it perform better, and it is cooler.
but it consume more, also i don't overclock anything in my pc.

-I bought a 200 euros abnormous king tower case just to have space for everything, i can live inside this motherfucker and still have room for the gpu and a mid size turtle terrarium, i should not have any space problem whatsoever:lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 
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So:

-I don't give a fuck about look in a computer, never did, if a 4090 with little pink swarosky dicks all over it was 500 euros cheaper, i would buy that model :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

- i saw some bench for both and the giga should beat the msi, not by much but it looks like it perform better, and it is cooler.
but it consume more, also i don't overclock anything in my pc.

-I bought a 200 euros abnormous king tower case just to have space for everything, i can live inside this motherfucker and still have room for the gpu and a mid size turtle terrarium, i should not have any space problem whatsoever:lollipop_grinning_sweat:

get the gigabyte then i'd say.
 

Captn

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get the gigabyte then i'd say.

Bought the 4090 OC from gigabyte and its a monster in every way!

Huge card phisically speaking and as for performance, I undervolted it with msi afterburner at 0.950v / 2790 mhz with a power target of 85%

Getting maxed fps on everything so far in 4k using my LG C1 48" with a power consumption varying from 280-350w

Hovers around 55-65 degrees celcius with fans set to 60% when gaming.

Super happy with the results so far and plenty of headroom for OC if desired.

I recommend!! 😀
 

GymWolf

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well, since upgrading to my 4080 i have got the urge to upgrade the rest of my PC :messenger_tears_of_joy:

CPU: was looking at the i9-13900K but then i saw how heavy the power usage is! some tests show it can use almost 500W :messenger_face_screaming: and then it basically hits 100C within seconds. to be fair this is during heavy stress tests so not what i'll see during game but still the card is using insane power. after that i started looking at the 7950X but looking at benchmarks the 7700X is basically the same gaming performance as the 7950X and that's all i need it for. i do a bit of photo/video editing which my 9900K handles well so the 7700X would still be an upgrade for that kind of stuff. i know the 13900K is the best gaming CPU but that power draw put me right off and anyway it's like £600. the 7700X is £330.

Cooler: my current CPU cooler is a bequiet dark rock pro 4 but i don't have the bracket to mount it to LGA 1700. i can buy one for £5-6 i think. i was thinking about getting the Noctua NH-D15 which is £105-110. i'm totally against any kind of liquid cooling so if a NH-D15 can't handle it then i'm not buying it.

if i went AMD then i don't need a new cooler at all. my be quiet should work on AM5 and handle the 7700X.

RAM: i was looking to upgrade to 64GB DDR5 RAM. i don't really need it but seeing games use 19-24GB RAM has me a little worried. again this is probably an extreme situation because the games i saw this was Flight Simulator and Fortnite on Unreal Engine 5.1. Both these games are arguably some of most demanding and or technologically advanced games out right now. Fortnite i think is a decent indicator of how games will look, not visually of course, in a few years as more of them use Unreal Engine 5. that said, even if games do hit 20GB i still would have 12GB left so 32GB is probably fine.

the ram i was looking at for 64GB was corsair vengeance 5600/c40. for 32GB i was going to go with 6000/cl36.

Motherboard: the motherboard i was going to get was the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master (same brand i currently have: z390 aorus master) but it's an E-ATX and i don't want to replace my case. So i was then looking at the Asus ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming Wifi (i think that's the name). I think it's maybe best to leave Gigabyte. The Z390 master i have is really great but a couple minor things have bugged (heh) me. The RGB software is a buggy mess and disables the LEDs on my 4080 so i need to either have the LEDS on my GPU or the LEDS on my motherboard. Can't have both. apparently there is a BIOS version with RGB fusion integrated but I can't find it. In general, it seems Gigabyte has some buggy BIOS issues. I had both Ubuntu + Windows on my system but no matter what I couldn't get back into Ubuntu with secure boot on. After trying to find a fix it seems it's a gigabyte bios issue.

for AM5 the gigabyte master is ATX but £430. the asus rog strix b650e-e is £360.

SSD: either the WD SN850X 2TB or Samsung 980/990 Pro 2TB. the WD has 7.3/6.6GB read/write. the 980 has 7/5GB and the 990 I think was 7.6/6.9GBs.

if i went intel the build was going to cost ~£1,800. by going with the 7700X build it'd be £1,050. so i might not have the best gaming CPU i'll be saving hundreds and still getting decent performance while not using a fuck load of power. also there is the fact that if go intel i'm locked into that. if i go AM5 i can drop a newer CPU in at some point should i choose to do that and without having to buy a whole new motherboard and maybe even worry about mounting brackets for the cooler.

.... and then i read that AMD is releasing 3D variant models next month so after spending hours researching parts i have decided to wait a month or two to see what those new CPUs are like. i'm hoping for a 7700X3D or maybe even a 7800X3D. plus waiting a bit longer will let me get christmas out the way and save up some more money. my 9900K is by no means a slouch but i want to upgrade to something new.
Cpu: Have you considered the 13600k? it should be plenty for gaming at 4k with probably less consumes\hot temps.


Cooler: since i recently studied before buying my cooler, i can say that your current one is basically in the same tier of the noctua, don't waste money and just get the bracket, some brands send the lga 1700 bracket for free if you ask with an email.
But i don't overclock my cpu so i have no idea about needing liquid cooling (i hate the idea aswell)

Ram: i recently studied for that aswell, the general opinion is that 99,99% of times, 32gb are plenty even in a 5 years from now situation, at worse buy 32 gb ddr5 so you are more future proof, i saw a test where a 13600k with ddr5 is on par or better than an even better intel cpu with ddr4, so...

Unless you need more for work, use the money for a better cpu\gpu.
 
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Cpu: Have you considered the 13600k? it should be plenty for gaming at 4k with probably less consumes\hot temps.


Cooler: since i recently studied before buying my cooler, i can say that your current one is basically in the same tier of the noctua, don't waste money and just get the bracket, some brands send the lga 1700 bracket for free if you ask with an email.
But i don't overclock my cpu so i have no idea about needing liquid cooling (i hate the idea aswell)

Ram: i recently studied for that aswell, the general opinion is that 99,99% of times, 32gb are plenty even in a 5 years from now situation, at worse buy 32 gb ddr5 so you are more future proof, i saw a test where a 13600k with ddr5 is on par or better than an even better intel cpu with ddr4, so...

Unless you need more for work, use the money for a better cpu\gpu.

no i haven't. my first thought was just get the best CPU for gaming but then seeing the 13900K i thought maybe give AMD another shot. i'm open to any but i think at this point i'll just wait until AMD bring out their Zen 4 3D cpus and make a decision then.

yeah the bequiet is roughly on par with the noctua i think. the noctua will get you an extra few degrees cooler but it's meant to be slightly louder. be quiet is quieter but will run a tiny bit hotter. both basically same though. if i go with intel i'll find a bracket but i'd really rather not have to buy a new cooler so AM5 is attractive.

i know i'm being stupid regarding ram. 64GB is overkill for gaming but that 19-24GB spooked me lol. i do believe 32GB is more than enough for the next 5 years maybe longer.

i just bought a new PSU + gpu so whatever i buy needs to work with the 4080 and within a 1000W psu. i'm only going to really be playing games (that includes some PS2 emulation). the photo/video editing isn't that important. basically any CPU will be good enough for me when it comes to that and my 9900K already slays.

overclocking i cant be arsed with anymore. it's nice to have the option but i can't be dealing with fucking about in the BIOS and stress testing shit for hours on end. whatever CPU i get i will probably run stock or if there is an option in the BIOS for an easy OC i'll do that. i know Asus have AI OC and i think AMD has a setting to boost performance in BIOS.

when i got my 4080 i was worried my CPU was bottlenecking it but i just ran some tests today and i don't think it's bottlenecking it. i done some tests at 720p absolute low settings in cyberpunk and the CPU was hitting 60-211fps (gpu was at ~45-50% usage). when i max it out at 1440p (without dlss) i'm getting about 50-55fps and the GPU is constantly at 99% usage. soo....i think that's good. i don't know. i mean the GPU ain't waiting around for my CPU to catch up. so really i'm in no rush to upgrade but i just got that itch after buying the 4080 lol. i'll wait another couple months and have a look again.
 
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Xdrive05

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Earlier today I ordered an EVGA RTX 3060 12GB from their B stock catalog (certified refurb) for only $259.99. Comes with a 12 month warranty. But looks like the price has gone back up on them now by almost $100. Also it won't even ship until 1/4 so I'll be waiting a while.

Anyone have experience with EVGA B stock orders?
 

dtremblay

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Earlier today I ordered an EVGA RTX 3060 12GB from their B stock catalog (certified refurb) for only $259.99. Comes with a 12 month warranty. But looks like the price has gone back up on them now by almost $100. Also it won't even ship until 1/4 so I'll be waiting a while.

Anyone have experience with EVGA B stock orders?
i got in on the same deal. couldn't resist at that price.
 
so in my last post said i was going to wait for AMDs Zen 4 3D cpus but i can't help myself and want to upgrade now. would i be stupid to buy a 7700X or even a 7600X now along with a new motherboard/ram/ssd and then when a "7700X3D" comes out buy that and sell the 7600X.

i can get a 7600X for £264 right now whereas a 7700X, the cpu i wanted, is £330 and i reckon i could probably get £150 for the 7600X even after 3D cpus come out in a couple months. i'd be saving £66 getting a 7600X today compared to a 7700X. i'm assuming any 7700X3D will be about £450 and then if i sell the 7600X i'd only be paying about £300 or £234 if you take into account the £66 saving between 7600-7700X.

alright yeah i know it's not a terribly smart idea but i want to upgrade now and get the whole new PC set up out the way. it's a pain in the ass taking the cooler/motherboard out and plugging everything back in then doing a clean install. if i can put in a new motherboard in now and get it all set up with a clean install of windows then when the new CPU comes out all i need to do is take the cooler off and plop in the new CPU.
 
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GreatnessRD

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so in my last post said i was going to wait for AMDs Zen 4 3D cpus but i can't help myself and want to upgrade now. would i be stupid to buy a 7700X or even a 7600X now along with a new motherboard/ram/ssd and then when a "7700X3D" comes out buy that and sell the 7600X.

i can get a 7600X for £264 right now whereas a 7700X, the cpu i wanted, is £330 and i reckon i could probably get £150 for the 7600X even after 3D cpus come out in a couple months. i'd be saving £66 getting a 7600X today compared to a 7700X. i'm assuming any 7700X3D will be about £450 and then if i sell the 7600X i'd only be paying about £300 or £234 if you take into account the £66 saving between 7600-7700X.

alright yeah i know it's not a terribly smart idea but i want to upgrade now and get the whole new PC set up out the way. it's a pain in the ass taking the cooler/motherboard out and plugging everything back in then doing a clean install. if i can put in a new motherboard in now and get it all set up with a clean install of windows then when the new CPU comes out all i need to do is take the cooler off and plop in the new CPU.
If you know you're going to buy a X3D cheap regardless, I'd say grab the 7600x since its cheaper. Burn as less much as possible.
 

Xdrive05

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Any reason to expect the GPU market to return to the crypto insanity of early this year? I saw that the tariff exemptions were renewed for 9 more months, so at least that should not be a problem.

Because crypto is currently "crashed", doesn't that mean there will be another boom soon to come?
 
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Reallink

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Any reason to expect the GPU market to return to the crypto insanity of early this year? I saw that the tariff exemptions were renewed for 9 more months, so at least that should not be a problem.

Because crypto is current "crashed", doesn't that mean there will be another boom soon to come?

You currently can't buy any of the cards that are worth having as they're perpetually sold out and successfully scalped for like $500+ profit--on top of the manufacturer's already pre-scalping their MSRP's. So it's ultimately immaterial whether there's crypto insanity/bubbles or not, the end result is the same with or without it. The problem's not crypto, its too many people having too much money.
 
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raduque

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So my birthday is coming up and I was asked what I want. I said 32gb of ram and a new CPU if it's worth it.

I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and 16gb DDR4-3000 on a B350 board with an RTX 2080. The ram (Corsair LPX 32gb DDR4-3200) has been purchased already, and I have a B450 board being unused in a spare PC, so I'm going to swap that into my gaming rig when I get the RAM on my birthday.

Now, Best Buy has the Ryzen 5800X for $200 off, making it $259 for a while. If I can grab that in the next few days, I will, but if the sale goes off before I can decide, I'm not worried about it.

But the biggest thing I can't seem to decide is if it's worth upgrading to from my R5 3600. My gaming rig is about 90% gaming and 10% video editing, while I do everything else on my laptop. So: what does GAF think? Grab the 8c/16t Zen3 for $260, or stick with my 6c/12t Zen2?
 

PhoenixTank

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So my birthday is coming up and I was asked what I want. I said 32gb of ram and a new CPU if it's worth it.

I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and 16gb DDR4-3000 on a B350 board with an RTX 2080. The ram (Corsair LPX 32gb DDR4-3200) has been purchased already, and I have a B450 board being unused in a spare PC, so I'm going to swap that into my gaming rig when I get the RAM on my birthday.

Now, Best Buy has the Ryzen 5800X for $200 off, making it $259 for a while. If I can grab that in the next few days, I will, but if the sale goes off before I can decide, I'm not worried about it.

But the biggest thing I can't seem to decide is if it's worth upgrading to from my R5 3600. My gaming rig is about 90% gaming and 10% video editing, while I do everything else on my laptop. So: what does GAF think? Grab the 8c/16t Zen3 for $260, or stick with my 6c/12t Zen2?
Comes down to which games you care about, your desired resolution and framerate really. It is a decent upgrade but if you want to quantify it GN have a decent bit of coverage when the 5800x3d launched, but it also includes the 3600 and 5800x in those comparisons.


Amazon US seem to have the CPU for less, FWIW - so $259 isn't the price floor. 5700x might be worth a look too with it sub $200.
 

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Hey PC gurus :)

A chap is selling the below (used) for EUR 600 - is it worth it?

I9 9900K
Corsair watercooling
Corsair 750w
Gigabyte Z390
RGB Fans
500Gb SSD
32Go Ram 3200mhz DDR4 HyperX
Sharkoon Case glass panel
NO GPU
 
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