rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
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Hermen Hulst - "We value PC gamers, and will continue to look at the right times to launch EACH game [on PC]."
fermcr
Member
VFXVeteran
Banned
I am glad that my insiders have finally come full circle in what they told me and I shared with this community well over a year ago. Despite the extreme name-calling and pushback, you guys can finally have no doubts about this move to port exclusives to PC.
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ZywyPL
Banned
WellThereItIs.gif - no reason to own a PS5 when you can play the games some time later at way more than a mere 30FPS.
I have a serious doubt - bare in mind PS consoles use their proprietary APIs, so porting on PC is not as fast as MS games that are build with UWP/DX12 in mind from the ground up. I'm confident PS games will require at very least 0.5-1 year additional work.
I have a serious doubt - bare in mind PS consoles use their proprietary APIs, so porting on PC is not as fast as MS games that are build with UWP/DX12 in mind from the ground up. I'm confident PS games will require at very least 0.5-1 year additional work.
Pedro Motta
Member
I don't understand your point, everyone knows more exclusives are coming to PC, but they will continue to be legacy titles older than 2 years, not day and date like some are implying.I am glad that my insiders have finally come full circle in what they told me and I shared with this community well over a year ago. Despite the extreme name-calling and pushback, you guys can finally have no doubts about this move to port exclusives to PC.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Oh well… shitty move. 2 years delay can help a bit as the games do have a window of exclusivity and optimising for PS5 HW still makes sense… if they go day and date then yeah, they are on the kind of wrong HW+API set to do so. We will see :/.https://blog.playstation.com/2021/0...ats-next-for-playstation-studios/#sf246401757
PSB: [How does] PC fit into the worldview of PlayStation Studios moving forward?
Hermen: We’re still early on in our planning for PC. And Horizon Zero Dawn has been very successful. I think it shows there’s an appetite from gamers outside the PlayStation ecosystem to experience the amazing portfolio of games that PlayStation fans have enjoyed for years.
But I want to emphasize that PlayStation will remain the best place to play our PlayStation Studios titles at launch. But we do value PC gamers, and we’ll continue to look at the right times to launch each game. Bend Studio just released the PC version of Days Gone on May 18. So that’s about two years after the PS4 release.
And I hope that a new set of fans can and will enjoy that title. And that’s the goal — we want to reach new gamers who haven’t yet experienced the great stories, characters, and worlds that we’ve built. Releasing games on PC will not come ever at the expense of building an exciting lineup of great console games.
God bless both Hermen and Jim.
Incoming salty Sony fanboys in 3.... 2.... 1....
Banjo64
cumsessed
What was it they said the other day? A 250% return on investment for the existing ports. They’re probably thinking ‘shit, if we do a massive IP like Uncharted, GoW, TLOU or DeS/Bloodborne we’d make even more’.I am glad that my insiders have finally come full circle in what they told me and I shared with this community well over a year ago. Despite the extreme name-calling and pushback, you guys can finally have no doubts about this move to port exclusives to PC.
Krappadizzle
Gold Member
I believe that like Sony believes in generations.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Options are great; the games are still going to be great... PS5 will sell... great.
Seek help friends.
Seek help friends.
VFXVeteran
Banned
My point? Before the first exclusive ever was announced to the PC, I told people on this forum that PS exclusives would be coming to PC. No diehard Sony fan believed me and resorted to attacks on qualification and bogus insider information. Even after Horizon there was still backlash and I dealt with it. I'm glad all can finally see the true vision of Sony from the executives mouths after it's been under secrecy for so long.
Pedro Motta
Member
yeah, they believe in PS4 and PS5, I mean, they sold 130+ million of them.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Sony does appear to be planning on day and date GAAS games though from their investor presentation.
I'm confused why that slide implying that didn't become a thread here, or anywhere really lol
Pedro Motta
Member
And my point is, the strategy has been out in the open since Horizon PC was announced. But yes many people don't want to see that.
Bonfires Down
Member
Console gamers want a console and PC gamers want a PC. Even day 1 PC games are not going to hurt Playstation sales significantly.
They really should make the PC games exclusive to their own launcher though to prepare for the inevitable hardware agnostic gaming future.
They really should make the PC games exclusive to their own launcher though to prepare for the inevitable hardware agnostic gaming future.
Kokoloko85
Member
Theyve released 2 games out of what 20+ exclusives... EACH doesnt mean EVERY lol
I dont think there is gonna be a problem. Especially if they sell some games 2-3 years after Playstation release
I dont think there is gonna be a problem. Especially if they sell some games 2-3 years after Playstation release
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Syphon Filter
Member
Sony fanboys are mad. It's also fine if they come out later since pc gamers have tons to play as it is already. pc gamers will get the better looking and performing version of every playstation title.
Craig of War
Banned
Should just launch them day 1 on PC too like Xbox does we all know it coming lol
Nope. Why even have a ps5 at that point? I don't care about exclusives coming to pc- they won't release day one though.
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I think it's pretty clear that all PS games will come to PC. Question is about schedule. I wouldn't say they will ever start coming out simultanously with Playstation. I think they are following Rockstar's pattern. Release inferior version on consoles, and in 1-2 years later release superior version on PC. It is working, people are double dipping (me including, I have no shame in saying I bought both HZD and Days Gone on both PS and then again on PC). I will keep doing that going forward for games that I want to play, I'll get it on Playstation when they come out and then doubledip PC version for a replay.
Reindeer
Member
The only difference being of course Rockstar actually puts effort into PC versions and make them look distinctly better than console ones.
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Dream-Knife
Banned
Wasn't it just a year ago where he went on the blog and talked about games coming to PC?
dcmk7
Banned
This is exactly why makes no sense to release simultaneously.
They would miss out on the people who would double dip.
Reindeer
Member
I wouldn't refer to superior versions of games as "scraps".So to summarise it he said PC will get scraps.
And the PCMR were expecting Day 1.
VFXVeteran
Banned
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balls of snow
Member
Im totally gomna replaying Horizon on my 3060 laptop at 60 fps. Thanks.
Stuart360
Member
Well the difference is that launching day and date on PC means sales will be higher on PC, as oppose to releasing a 2 or 3 year old game on PC.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
If scraps = version with best performance, IQ, controls, game play, options, mods, etc, they can keep delivering all those scraps.So to summarise it he said PC will get scraps.
And the PCMR were expecting Day 1.
Alphagear
Member
Not superior in any way considering the PS5 pro or PS6 will be backwards compatible by the time these games release.
Right now you got PS4 games and some more in the pipeline. PS5 games are years away.
Lets not forget MOST PC gamers don't even have a PC everywhere close to a PS5 in specs T
This notion that PC gamers play on superior hardware is a myth. Some do most don't.
Alphagear
Member
Not superior in any way considering the PS5 pro or PS6 will be backwards compatible by the time these games release.
Right now you got PS4 games and some more in the pipeline. PS5 games are years away.
Lets not forget MOST PC gamers don't even have a PC everywhere close to a PS5 in specs T
This notion that PC gamers play on superior hardware is a myth. Some do most don't.
Stuart360
Member
Yeah before this gen started, even the lowest specced gaming PC was better than XB1 and PS4, hell even laptops and some tablets were lol.
Its alright getting all high and mighty now a new gen of consoles have launched, but come back in 2 or 3 years and then see what the situation is.
besides what difference does it make anyway if only a percentage of PC users currently have PC's as good or better than PS5/XSX?.
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Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
Translation - we're going to be doing day and date on PC but we're trying to ease the minds of fanboys before doing so by just spring it on them like we did with cross-gen. Before this generation ends, Sony will have their games on PC day one period because it's basically free money and they would be morons not do it. Besides, those who are console gamers (like me) aren't going to play them on PC anyway and those who get pissed at this and say, im leaving PlayStation or whatever are full of shit because you're not going anywhere so it's like, sit back down and shut the fuck up.
Reindeer
Member
So you're saying PS5 Pro (something nobody announced) is gonna be more powerful than PCs? Is that like when PS4 Pro was more powerful than PCs? Lol
Holammer
Member
Glad PC is working out for them. Don't forget PS3 era titles, plenty of stuff there that deserve ports.
... I think.
I think it's a bit of self-referential humor. Y'know, him being the Alpha Playstation fanboi.
... I think.
dcmk7
Banned
If it's a good game, PC owners will buy it anyway. And some would even get both copies and double dip.
Console exclusives are a big part of the appeal for getting a console in the first place. Bizarre to just throw it away.
Especially when PC sales for HZD were very good, despite launching in a bit of a state.
FrankWza
Member
That day and date thing is a killer for you and yours, huh? You can make the ragnorok pc ot the same day as the PS6 launch ot in 2027
good luck avoiding spoilers
alucard0712_rus
Gold Member
Sell it to me.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Says it’ll always be first on PS
they are taking the take 2 strategy
initially on consoles, full price years later on
PC
I won’t be waiting that’s for sure
they are taking the take 2 strategy
initially on consoles, full price years later on
PC
I won’t be waiting that’s for sure
CitizenZ
Banned
That day and date thing is a killer for you and yours, huh? You can make the ragnorok pc ot the same day as the PS6 launch ot in 2027
good luck avoiding spoilers
And like days gone, it will be the best version since it includes all patches, upgrades, etc. You paid full price for a mediocre title than ran at best 30 fps and on PC paying $50 is like a steal. But to each their own.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yeap playing games like horizon and days gone at North of 60 fps with improved Global illumination and effects is deffo scraps! Hahaha
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MiguelItUp
Member
I'll never understand the "rage" that comes from this. These games that have come to PC and will, have been out for years before appearing on PC. So, why does it matter? You've played it first, and you've enjoyed it. It's not leaving your PS console, so nothing is changing your experience. It's just offering the awesome experience to a whole other community of players that may not have a PS console. It's spreading the love, essentially. Good stuff all around.
Now give me Bloodborne damnit.
And that Demon's Souls remake, I'll double dip for both!
Now give me Bloodborne damnit.
And that Demon's Souls remake, I'll double dip for both!
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Neofire
Member
It's amazing how he contradicts himself with "PlayStation will always be the best place to play"https://blog.playstation.com/2021/0...ats-next-for-playstation-studios/#sf246401757
PSB: [How does] PC fit into the worldview of PlayStation Studios moving forward?
Hermen: We’re still early on in our planning for PC. And Horizon Zero Dawn has been very successful. I think it shows there’s an appetite from gamers outside the PlayStation ecosystem to experience the amazing portfolio of games that PlayStation fans have enjoyed for years.
But I want to emphasize that PlayStation will remain the best place to play our PlayStation Studios titles at launch. But we do value PC gamers, and we’ll continue to look at the right times to launch each game. Bend Studio just released the PC version of Days Gone on May 18. So that’s about two years after the PS4 release.
And I hope that a new set of fans can and will enjoy that title. And that’s the goal — we want to reach new gamers who haven’t yet experienced the great stories, characters, and worlds that we’ve built. Releasing games on PC will not come ever at the expense of building an exciting lineup of great console games.
God bless both Hermen and Jim.
Incoming salty Sony fanboys in 3.... 2.... 1....
Lol by what metric?
Dr Bass
Member
Nah, he's totally right. Each does, in fact, not mean every. Basic English.
He's saying we will consider the timing of "each release we do."
He is not saying "we will consider the release timing of every playstation game that gets made."
Seemed really obvious and clear to me. But I could be wrong.
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