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Hellblade enhancements vs GOT directors cuts enhancements (Yes, this is post upset at Sony for charging)

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Using Hellblade in the comparison doesn't really work as there is no extra content.
Gears Of War 5 would be a better comparison as they released Hivebusters expansion and did the work on a Series console upgrade with global illumination and 120fps support etc.
In that case you paid for the extra content as you should unless you were a Game Pass Ultimate subscriber where you got it free.
The technical upgrades were free.
 

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adding Japanese lip-syncing for hours of cinematic scenes, dualsense integration, 3D audio etc?

Didn't the Japanese version of the game have Japanese lip synch already? Then you are just paying additional to have what the Japanese got in their version, which were already made.
 
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Using Hellblade in the comparison doesn't really work as there is no extra content.
Gears Of War 5 would be a better comparison as they released Hivebusters expansion and did the work on a Series console upgrade with global illumination and 120fps support etc.
In that case you paid for the extra content as you should unless you were a Game Pass Ultimate subscriber where you got it free.
The technical upgrades were free.
 

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I find it funny how Microsoft treated Sony players better than Sony themselves with the Doom update (compared to Spider-Man or GoT). I'm extremely disappointed with Sony and how they are managing things. Xbox just provides the better service currently in my opinion in regards to backwards compatibility and upgrades.

It's a shame because when Sony were humbled in the PS3 days they were wiping the floor with Microsoft in terms of features and building a platform, but there has been a bit of a role reversal.

Lmao I love when you clowns bring up DOOM Eternal in this discussion.

A game with a season pass, multiple paid DLC expansions, and MTX, when the developers specifically promised no MTX in the game ahead of release. This is the game you want to use an example of good will lmao.

Meanwhile, the Legends expansion was free, and now the Rivals expansion in September is going to be free for GOT. The PS5 60 FPS patch last year was free too. Directors Cut is a 4K PS5 remaster + 15-20 hour single player DLC for $30.

At the end of the day you're getting far more value if you choose to go with GOT over Doom Eternal.
 

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You can do 100 things right, but you always be called for that one thing you did """"wrong"""".
Good job OP and haters.
Exactly. Last year this time, everyone was praising Sucker Punch for offering the free 60 FPS patch + Ghost of Tsushima Legends with 0 MTX for free.

Now so many are complaining just because they asked $10 for an optional PS5 upgrade (you can still play the game at 60 FPS without paying for that upgrade).

It's almost like "we'll like you as long as you give us free stuff".
 

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Fun fact: people who defend Sony for their recent practices also shit on EA/Ubi/Acti for doing exactly the same. If it was about me I'd patch every PS4 1st party title (there aren't that many of them after all) with 4K60FPS, DualSense/SSD/3D audio support, to show off what the console is capable of, as of now it's kind of a false/empty marketing with fancy GCI animations instead of actual games, where they already advertise the console's features with * - if supported/patched/added/implemented etc., they should also add * - if you pay us sucker. But it's all up to the audience, if people don't mind paying extra for the features the console already has, for the features they bought the console for, then the trend will only continue, but don't cry next time when EA charges you for RT.

You can't patch PS5 features like SSD support or Dual Sense support into a native PS4 game. The most you can do is unlock the framerate so it goes above whatever it was previously locked at. Which Sony has already done for many 1P titles like: GOT, Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, God of War, etc.

You need to develop a native PS5 app to take advantage of all that stuff you mentioned. Additional developer work is required there.
 

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Exactly. Last year this time, everyone was praising Sucker Punch for offering the free 60 FPS patch + Ghost of Tsushima Legends with 0 MTX for free.

Now so many are complaining just because they asked $10 for an optional PS5 upgrade (you can still play the game at 60 FPS without paying for that upgrade).

It's almost like "we'll like you as long as you give us free stuff".
And also like if people payed for the game and an all-time season pass.
The entitlement is strong...
 
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What Hellblade released today for their enhancements

Ray tracing on both Series X & S
  • Up to 4K resolution
  • Up to 120hz
  • Updated materials, particles and details
  • Chapter select

What GOT is offereing for the ps4 > ps5 upgrades

  • Japanese lip-sync
  • Duelsense Support functionality
  • Reduced load times
  • 3D audio
  • Dynamic 4K 60 FPS
Again, charging for the expansion is fine, but this is the 2nd time in two month the competition is offering a more robust technical upgrade for free while us PS5 owners are being charged for what should be free. Having to pay for 4k 60 is the most disappointing part as that is becoming standard now in the industry. I know most ps5 owners won't put pressure on Sony, but this should continued to be pointed out in comparisons every chance they get.

God of War Received a free 4K60fps patch and so did Ghost of Tsushima for 4K60fps a free patch to play at that resolution and frame rate on the PS5.
 

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If the DLC adds 10-15 hours to the game, that would be great.

If you're like me, you'll play it for longer than that, due to all the mucking about. The combat in GOT was so fluid! I thought that needing to remember which buttons to press to change stance, in order to take down a particular enemy the best way possible would be a hassle. Nope! Muscle memory was all over that and saw we through :)

(edit: must learn to proofread before pressing post)
 
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What GOT is offereing for the ps4 > ps5 upgrades

  • Japanese lip-sync
  • Duelsense Support functionality
  • Reduced load times
  • 3D audio
  • Dynamic 4K 60 FPS
Are these features free on Xbox series ? As far as I know you can just put in your PS4 copy into the ps5 and play with the same features Xbox has. Looks like it's charging for the upgrade which includes the Jap lip sync and all. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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If the DLC adds 10-15 hours to the game, that would be great.
This is pretty much confirmed by Sucker Punch. They said the amount of content and playtime would be similar to the first island of the base game (which was the biggest and took me more than 20 hours to complete).
 
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You need to develop a native PS5 app to take advantage of all that stuff you mentioned. Additional developer work is required there.

I missed the part where that's my problem. Sony can blame no one but themselves for poorly implemented BC that limits them so much that best they can do is up the framerate. But then again, we're seeing 3rd party devs indeed doing that extra work for free, which puts Sony in a really bad light.
 
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Microsoft is trying hard because Sony lapped them last gen. We all saw what happened once they got hold of first place, the Xbox One launch.

Competition is good, vote with your dollar.
 
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MS is more consumer friendly and have gamers first mentality now. So you wont expect greedy anti consumer moves like overpriced directors cut from them. They very carefully take their steps making sure gamers remain happy. If they fukup then they quickly correct their mistake. Its all because of Great Lord and Savior Phil Spencer. Messaih of gaming. Imo



Sony Is riding high with success of PS4. Sony has become bit arrogant and they know we can charge whatever we want and our loyal fans will defend it at all cost and fully support it.


Thats all i want to say on this topic.
 
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MS is more consumer friendly and have gamers first mentality now. So you wont expect greedy anti consumer moves like overpriced directors cut from them. They very carefully take their steps making sure gamers remain happy. If they fukup then they quickly correct their mistake. Its all because of Great Lord and Savior Phil Spencer. Messaih of gaming. Imo



Sony Is riding high with success of PS4. Sony has become bit arrogant and they know we can charge whatever we want and our loyal fans will defend it at all cost and fully support it.


Thats all i want to say on this topic.
That what a lot of people don’t remember….you don’t want arrogant Sony back….they got lazy towards the end of ps2 and paid the price with the ps3 launch….how badly could you fuck up something which was basically the number 1 gaming console in the world to ps3 which was essentially the third wheel for a large chunk of its life….arrogant stupid anti consumer decisions

gamers get a much better deal when companies are trying to fight for their audience…and in turn the companies should be rewarding the people who support them
 

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God of War Received a free 4K60fps patch and so did Ghost of Tsushima for 4K60fps a free patch to play at that resolution and frame rate on the PS5.
Neither game run at 4K in PS5, they run at the same resolution as in PS4 Pro. I have PS5 and both games so I checked it personally. Same for The Last of Us 2.
 
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Both games were default 4K resolution at 30fps on PS4 Pro (checerboarded 4K) and they unlocked the frame rate cap and allowed PS5 to run at 60fps.
Free upgrades for both just unlocked the frame rate on PS4 Pro BC version.

Directors cut enhances resolution and increase LODs and uses PS5 hardware features like even faster Loading and other features that console offers to native PS5 games.

Free upgrade versions comes under BC versions but PS5 Directors cut labelled as PS5 release not BC
 

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Lmao I love when you clowns bring up DOOM Eternal in this discussion.

A game with a season pass, multiple paid DLC expansions, and MTX, when the developers specifically promised no MTX in the game ahead of release. This is the game you want to use an example of good will lmao.

Meanwhile, the Legends expansion was free, and now the Rivals expansion in September is going to be free for GOT. The PS5 60 FPS patch last year was free too. Directors Cut is a 4K PS5 remaster + 15-20 hour single player DLC for $30.

At the end of the day you're getting far more value if you choose to go with GOT over Doom Eternal.
I'm talking specifically about the visuals / performance bumps. In a world where a lot of people are updating games free of charge (including MS on a Sony console) Sony are still putting it behind a paywall (resolution) which makes the proposition bad in comparison. Sony's way of doing things is inferior to the standards set by others in regards to how they've handled the resolution increase on Ghost of Tsushima. I would have liked to have seen them just charge for the expansion and give the high resultion mode out in a free update to fall in line with how most of the industry are handling things right now. There's a long list of games that have these free resolution upgrades it's not just Doom Eternal.

Giving out a free content like multiplayer isn't really a justification to charge for enhancements that other developers are giving out for free. They are however in their right to charge for it, but I have the opinion it's bad value compared to the competition.
 

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Why are we not counting the free PS5 performance upgrade GoT already got, the free Multi-player updates and the story expansion?
Free multiplayer update? Come on we all know they just didn't finish the multiplayer on time and weren't going to delay the game again.

Sony never gives away anything for free and will nickel and dime you at every chance possible.
 
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I imagine you can just get the expansion for the PS4 version without upgrading since the game was already updated to be 60fps. A bit too much of a fuss perhaps? Comparing hellblade to spiderman would have been far more appropriate.
 

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Free multiplayer update? Come on we all know they just didn't finish the multiplayer on time and weren't going to delay the game again.

Sony never gives away anything for free and will nickel and dime you at every chance possible.
Lol saying GoT mp is free is like GTA online is free. No you need base game, doesn't matter if they were launch later on after the release of base game.

Sony charging 10$ for PS5 enhancements and 20$ for DLC. DLC price is fine but 10$ is just they trying to get extra bucks out of loyal fans
 
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So are we going to ignore that they added a full new online game mode that people love and didn't charge a dime?
 
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Lol saying GoT mp is free is like GTA online is free. No you need base game, doesn't matter if they were launch later on after the release of base game.

Sony charging 10$ for PS5 enhancements and 20$ for DLC. DLC price is fine but 10$ is just they trying to get extra bucks out of loyal fans
That is such a weird take.

Did they advertise Legends before releasing the game? No. They sold the single-player game for $60, and people paid for it without knowing that there will be an MP mode in the future. The multiplayer mode that was added to it later was literally a free update.
 

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In resume for both companies…

- DLC content upgrade = paid patch
- Only technical upgrade = free patch

GoT patch = DLC upgrade with over 10 hours new content
Hellblade = technical upgrade

The thread is really when you look at the facts.
 
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Between November 2006 and June 2008. Then the Wii caught up to it. The PS3 caught up to Xbox in 2010 in monthly sales and in 2013 in total sales, but it never caught up to the Wii.
So, the "winners" go like this:

5th Gen: PS1
6th Gen: PS2
7th Gen: PS3
8th Gen: PS4
9th Gen: PS5

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I never said it didn't. Xbox can do xbox but anyone trying to shit on PlayStation doesn't have a leg to stand on.
You shitting on Xbox has no legs to stand on either. Last gen? Yes, they massively screwed up. THIS gen? No. They have made massive moves and things are really good in the Xbox camp right now. Stop trying to pretend like we are still in the Xbox One era, yeah?

PS Sony anti consumer practices SHOULD be shat on. Sony PS5 attitude is Sony PS3 attitude and you should be extremely concerned with that.
 
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You are paying for the upgrades as a ps5 owner with the 10$ price hike for ps5 vs ps4...

So what man - it's $10. Wait for a sale of the overall product then.


It's quite simple. Sony charges because they know their fans will pay for the update...

Gamers in general are idiots.

If people decide they want to pay extra for something on day 1, why not? As mentioned above, people can wait for a sale on the game and then buy it later.
 
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It's quite simple. Sony charges because they know their fans will pay for the update...

Gamers in general are idiots. Developers add a few extra pixels, a few extra irrelevant features, and gamers don't mind paying for it.
 
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That is such a weird take.

Did they advertise Legends before releasing the game? No. They sold the single-player game for $60, and people paid for it without knowing that there will be an MP mode in the future. The multiplayer mode that was added to it later was literally a free update.
Watch dogs online added later as well for free.

Advertisement or not doesn't matter. You need base game to play it. Its part of the package.

Will you apply same logic to Factions as well as its releasing late for last of us2?.


People coming up with all sorts of explanation to justify extra 10$ they charging lol
 
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On the other hand you could just act like an adult and make a decision -based on the value of the upgrade to you- and buy or pass accordingly.

The reality is that I cannot imagine many people are going to want the upgrade but not the expansion, so the value of that package as whole is what's going to make or break it.

You shitting on Xbox has no legs to stand on either. Last gen? Yes, they massively screwed up. THIS gen? No. They have made massive moves and things are really good in the Xbox camp right now. Stop trying to pretend like we are still in the Xbox One era, yeah?

PS Sony anti consumer practices SHOULD be shat on. Sony PS5 attitude is Sony PS3 attitude and you should be extremely concerned with that.
It's not PS3 attitude and you know it. Unless you mean their stance on not forcing players to pay to play FTP games online. We are amidst a golden era for PlayStation and only Nintendo are in the god tier with them.

I wasn't shitting on xbox. I was pointing out how daft it is for an xbox fan to try put down PlayStation when it's doing better then ever.
 

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Watch dogs online added later as well for free.

Advertisement or not doesn't matter. You need base game to play it. Its part of the package.

Will you apply same logic to Factions as well as its releasing late for last of us2?.
Unrelated because ND has confirmed it'll be its own game.

People coming up with all sorts of explanation to justify extra 10$ they charging lol
Those $10 are already justified because they are additional features.

My stance on this has never changed. Just because someone does something for free, it does not mean that you ask others to do the same for you and get mad if they don't.

It's the same reason why I wouldn't be asking Ninja Theory to create and release a free multiplayer mode for Hellblade just because Sucker Punch did it for Ghost of Tsushima. Imagine a thread complaining why NT couldn't give us a free MP mode when Sucker Punch did it and how absured that thread would look like.

This thread is the same with people complaining why SP couldn't do free PS5 upgrades for Ghost of Tsushima when NT did it for Hellblade.
 
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Why don't you move over to the Xbox ecosystem? I don't get it, lately I've been seeing more of the sentiment that Xbox is doing X better than Sony. If you value it enough, just jump ship.
 

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It's more confusing than it has to be when the competition does it all for you in the background...heres how to upgrade DOOM...


  • Open the PlayStation Store on your console.
  • Search for “Doom Eternal Campaign - PS5 Upgrade.” (It should pop up as the first entry after you punch in “Doom Ete.”) Download that.
  • Go to your game library.
  • Find Doom Eternal, then click on the three-dot menu. Select “PS5 | Doom Eternal.” If you try to do this before downloading the “Doom Eternal Campaign - PS5 Upgrade” file, you won’t see the option.
On Xbox

Launch doom eternal...By having different tiers Sony makes it tough to just put the disc in and play, you have to do work to get the proper version working and making sure you have the proper upgrades. It's not hard persay but still a bad system.

Right. Except you added a bunch of unnecessary steps. In reality...

- Visit the PS store.
- Download the PS5 version or PS5 upgrade.

Done.

It would be nice if I could just play the game without having to click to download something but you are making things a bigger deal than they really are.

Will PS fanboys cry about PS4 version of Hellblade not getting upgrade for PS5? Lol

Nope. The game looked fine as it was. It’s the gameplay that needs the overhaul. Hellblade is one of the most dull video game experiences I have ever had.

For all of the whining about PlayStation games being 3rd person walking simulators, Hellblade is the queen bitch.
 
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I really want to which is why I'm continually disappointed. Just 4k 60 support is what I want. I wish that part wasn't tied behind dlc and even worse behind an extra 10$ to upgrade. Feels like i'm being punished at this point for being an early adopter.
This is really ridiculous. They already gave a free patch 4k/60fps (checkerboard) months ago. Then they gave us an awesome online multiplayer DLC for free also. There launching an expansion for CHEAPER the Uncharted lost legacy and the last of us expansion ($40). Just to shut up some of this bogus bickering, Sucker Punch should have just charged $30 for both the PS4 and PS5, no one would have complained one bit.
 

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Why don't you move over to the Xbox ecosystem? I don't get it, lately I've been seeing more of the sentiment that Xbox is doing X better than Sony. If you value it enough, just jump ship.
I'm on 3 ships, and I jump between them as I please while discussing their pros and cons.
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Why don't you move over to the Xbox ecosystem? I don't get it, lately I've been seeing more of the sentiment that Xbox is doing X better than Sony. If you value it enough, just jump ship.
Refer to photo I posted earlier. I have all 3...
 
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In this thread I've learned that $10 is the equivalent of taking it up the ass. Apparently Sony is bending people over with that $10.

Ten dollars...
Ten. Dollars!
TEN FUCKING DOLLARS!!! 😂😂😂
 

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Right. Except you added a bunch of unnecessary steps. In reality...

- Visit the PS store.
- Download the PS5 version or PS5 upgrade.

Done.

It would be nice if I could just play the game without having to click to download something but you are making things a bigger deal than they really are.



Nope. The game looked fine as it was. It’s the gameplay that needs the overhaul. Hellblade is one of the most dull video game experiences I have ever had.

For all of the whining about PlayStation games being 3rd person walking simulators, Hellblade is the queen bitch.
Hehe hate is real lol. its not 60fps on PS. It feels really good at 60 now.


Also When it was made, NT was indie studios and they made the game with 10million budget. They focused on theme of psychosis with mild focus on combat and more puzzles and story.

Hellblade 2 10x bigger and visual showcase