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I guess you're right. I payed more Halo Infinite MP than probably any other GAF member (105+ hours) and I love the game. But when I see bullshit I will call it a bullshit. And this is some serious bullshit.
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Halo Infinite campaign can't be played right now, even if you have the disc.
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I guess you're right. I payed more Halo Infinite MP than probably any other GAF member (105+ hours) and I love the game. But when I see bullshit I will call it a bullshit. And this is some serious bullshit.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
They are console warriors, mate. Look at all the people defending this and their histories. Can't be any more blatant.
Would be funny if it wasn't so damn sad. Imagine trying to desperately to defend a company that doesn't know or care that you exist. Also imagine promoting and defending anti-consumer moves that produces worse products. These kiddos have no brain.
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SteadyEvo
Member
For all the people busting OPs balls, name another time when a game couldn’t be played on release day till 1pm? On top of that devs regularly send out “review copies/codes” to the cool kids of the world to play early and I guess use them as free advertising.
And for the people that bought the disc, this has to be a massive slap in the face. Hopefully this a lesson on how not to handle a release.
And for the people that bought the disc, this has to be a massive slap in the face. Hopefully this a lesson on how not to handle a release.
ManaByte
Gold Member
343 most probably working on the game until yesterday. Travesty of a studio
That's why reviewers got to play the campaign for a MONTH.
Helghan
Member
Or just wait like the rest of us that have to wait when we buy it digitally? It's a global launch, everyone at the same time. So people don't spoil it for others.
JLB
Banned
Mate. It's December 8th for 15.5 hours where I live. That's the damn issue.
How you people don't get it?
Hah, yeah. I wont be able to play it til very late on night due to some errands.
JackMcGunns
Member
Here, let me help you since you need hand holding.
Someone is trying to play a copy of Halo Infinite 'before' the official release date... it doesn't work. Simple answer, the game cannot be played until December 8. Problem solved, we move on.
But no, we don't move on, lets blame corporate decisions and prolong the already answered question, why aren't people in control when they can play games? Why did some people buy a PS4 with P.T. installed on the HDD as a perk, only to find out that Sony intrusively removed them without their consent, HOLY SHIT! what can be more intrusive than that? compared to that, Halo not playing before the release is a nothing burger in terms of company's controlling their content.
sainraja
Member
He may be right about this game but I wouldn't just take his word for it — I won't go into specifics here but from my experience he tends to be a little 'manipulative' with information and how he chooses to present it.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Oh fuck right off with that bullshit. I explained the PS4 version has the full game on it and the PS5 version has the Ultimate content as a download code. The Ultimate content isn't just fighters, it's the latter half of the campaign. That's not manipulating anything.
Have you even played MK11 to know what you're attacking me over?
And what this poster is referring to is when Outriders came out the old bug where the PS5 would install the PS4 version from the disc still existed. My PS5 tried to install the PS4 version. sainraja bent over backwards to try to disprove the bug existed, even when I posted photos showing I was installing the disc version of Outriders:
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JLB
Banned
You dont get it. Its not 1985 anymore.
Games are much more complex. Devs could find a terrible bug near the end of the game after they print the disk that needs to be patched.
Let alone MP games, where theres no other way but all of the players having the same version. Theres a 1000 other reasons that can prevent that the version that came in the disk is no longer playable.
Gamezone
Gold Member
The post was about preservation, not being able to wait 5 more hours.
GHG
Member
Konami requested PT got removed from the store you clown. And no it doesn't get removed from your hard drive without your consent, I still have mine installed on my PS4 pro which I transferred from my original PS4.
Beyond that, it's a free demo which cost nothing to anybody, Konami are within their rights to do whatever the fuck they want in terms of the status of the demo.
If you're going to try and console war at least do it right.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Is this Sony's IP?
This is literally worse than most Switch download schemes.
The disc is only Mortal Kombat 11. All of the "Ultimate" content is via a download code. The PS4 version isn't like that, it has the full game on the disc. But for some baffling reason WB made the PS5 disc just MK11 and all the Ultimate stuff a code; meaning it's not possible to buy a used version of this game. It's basically an Online Pass.
jakinov
Member
Things get posted while I'm responding
and it wasn't really a defense I was just answering a question and adding context of a trend with digital happening elsewhere. On side note, I always imagined that eventually phyiscal would just be redemption codes in future that you can buy with cash and is traditionally giftable.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
It's not because if you go out of your way to buy a physical copy of a game these days it's because you don't want to have to worry about internet, DRM expiration, you want to play at the cottage, whatever reason suits you.
If they want to sell discs they should sell working discs... it's akin to net getting tires with your car because they are everywhere, well sure, but you still can't drive the car off of the lot.
JackMcGunns
Member
The only clown here is you. The removal happened to different consoles in different regions, look it up, I think they reversed their stance, but it was widely reported at the time.
Again, you're confused on who's creating the warring here. What happened with the disc not working is pretty standard these days. Stop the straw grasping.
Hugare
Member
Dont give a fuck about launch day
What I'm saying is that if I'm offline, at least I can install Cyberpunk from the disk and play it, as bug ridden as it may be.
Will never be able to do the same with Halo Infinite
Again, I'm almost all digital, but there are people who aren't.
If the disc is barelly functional dont even bother printing it then
ManaByte
Gold Member
I have family members who lived in a cabin in a small mountain village and even they had internet.
sainraja
Member
If the release date is Dec 8 and that is what they are advertising in trailers (without the **) then it should be playable on Dec 8 regardless of what 'time' it is. Given how things are constantly changing, any change that might happen in the future towards something like this won't surprise me. lol
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Strider Highwind
Banned
When will the preload happen?
Gamezone
Gold Member
Doesnt mean an older built can't be on the disc. You know, like most publishers do?
343 most probably working on the game until yesterday. Travesty of a studio
AJUMP23
Gold Member
A user can have a copy, and be kept off of all online services unless they update the software. But the disk can still have an executable and fully usable codebase that represents what was offered to the consumer at the time of purchase. No matter the complexity of the game. If you are offering a single player experience, that should be able to be enjoyed in its original state by the purchaser of a piece of software. I understand in the business model, you are not purchasing SW per-se but our purchasing a license to the software and that is all the disk really is in the modern world, a license key for the the user. What I am saying is that there should be a way for a person that purchases a single player game to be able to play the game without ever connecting to the servers.
ManaByte
Gold Member
What's burned on the disc is the gold master. Since 99% of games now have a Day 1 patch that means 99% of games in 2021 are not playable on physical media.
Hugare
Member
You are grasping at straws at this point
Your family members arent everyone, dude
Is it so hard to understand that there are people out there in entirely different situations than yours that may find useful buying the damn disc?
alabtrosMyster
Banned
What about the other angles?
If I buy something I expect it to work, we will leave it as that.
Andodalf
Banned
If you have literally 0 access to the internet, meting you can’t download a one time patch, you can’t participate in modern society in like 99% of scenarios and probably have way bigger issues in life. Is probably be considered more with making sure I have running water and central heating, because those are probably slightly more rare than the internet is now.
Leyasu
Banned
Well why ain't it?
I have been playing the MP non stop since release, and it is the best arena shooter that I have played. I will download the campaign later and play it to completion over the next few days. But they have been woefully behind on everything, and even the day one patch is not going to be there day one for some problems. As mentioned in the df article. I say it as I see it and 343 are lacking
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I think its an issue of they don't want to be stuck wanting to play the game in 20 years and not able to do so because you all the data required.
Hugare
Member
Or maybe, you know, you want to replay the campaign some months from now, but can reinstall the game because your internet is down for whatever reason at that moment
Or maybe you went on a vacation somewhere where there's internet, but it's slow as fuck and downloading +10gb will take some hours
Or maybe, like any other non insane person, you would think that having to download +10 gb everytime you want to reinstall the game can be annoying
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Sir did you just assume he wasn’t a member of some undiscovered tribe in the Amazon and accessing GAF off the phone of someone they ate for dinner?
CuNi
Member
I guess they want to make sure we all play this and get disappointed at the same time.
I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of fans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
But regarding the topic, I know companies hated it that retailers sometimes sold copies way way earlier and spoilers leaked, but that's just a major dick move.
I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of fans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
But regarding the topic, I know companies hated it that retailers sometimes sold copies way way earlier and spoilers leaked, but that's just a major dick move.
CuNi
Member
Not to flame you but this info literally has been known since a few days. They even posted a map with your local release time man.
LordCBH
Member
I had no idea and was looking forward to playing when I got up this morning.
ManaByte
Gold Member
It’s been known for weeks. But people in this thread are ignoring that small fact.
LordCBH
Member
The decision is still retarded lol.
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GHG
Member
You're still going? The game was not forcibly removed from anyone's console:
P.T. unleashes new wave of terror after rumor that Konami has disabled it
A Reddit rumor leads to panic for PS4 owners
www.polygon.com
Better luck next time.
JackMcGunns
Member
You're still going? The game was not forcibly removed from anyone's console:
P.T. unleashes new wave of terror after rumor that Konami has disabled it
A Reddit rumor leads to panic for PS4 owners
Better luck next time.
What are you saying? Can't hear you since my disc copy of Halo is working
Some of these takes are hilarious. It is more than "the game you put into your machine doesn't work. . ." It is that this - as someone said previously - is clearly implementing the "always online" world that XBOX wanted with the XB1, but was ridiculed into oblivion for. HALO INFINITE is a single player game (no co-op at release remember). Why does a person who physically has the disc need to wait for an arbitrary unlock timer? This is not how "game release times" have worked before. No one who read the "global release time" for HALO INFINITE campaign realistically thought this applied to ALL SKU's of the game; release times are for digital unlocks of a game. If you have it early, the usual response is "Hey, we know people have early copies of the game - please don't spoil it for others."
. . .just crazy what behavior of a multinational media empire is allowed when someone has (for some reason) personal stake in the product on offer.
. . .just crazy what behavior of a multinational media empire is allowed when someone has (for some reason) personal stake in the product on offer.
GHG
Member
Oh you don't want to talk about it anymore?
Who is the one who is supposed to be grasping at straws again?
JackMcGunns
Member
I guess you didn't get the message, we talked about it. Halo Infinite doesn't work because its official date is December 8 and P.T. was delisted from the store because Konami wanted it to be. The people who own the IP make these decisions, end of discussion. Nothing unusual going on here unless you're warring.
tmlDan
Member
Clearly it was poorly communicated and if the reviewers had the game a month in advance and it was gold for that long then it should be available.
it was a stupid decision, stop defending it.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Release dates aren't respected anymore that's the problem. Now everyone is silver edition pre load early, harden edition 5 days early before release pre load, this is bad for gaming.
JackMcGunns
Member
Ok, lets go attack. Send me the SKU number to your disc copy, I will start the complaint.
iHaunter
Member
Why does it matter? A disc is a disc. Why does the exact time need to be locked?