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Hades UK boxed charts - gamepass data not counted

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According to some, Xbox game box sales are atrocious... and yet, more and more games are coming to Gamepass as time goes by.
The question remains... Do Neogaf commentators understand more about the gaming business then the developers that sell their games to Gamepass?
Publishers/developers are going to put their game on Game Pass as long as MS is willing to pay a high enough premium for it. Most people, myself included, have concerns that it will not be sustainable in the long run at the current subscription model/rate but time will tell. That being said, I am playing Hades on Game Pass.
 

Black_Stride

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Here is funny part. The n1 sold this much.

Alright im fucking out.

Thats hilarious as fuck but I guess all small victories right.
 

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True.

Except for the guy who fucking leads Xbox.........

ROFL.


"In a video interview with levelup.com (as pointed out on ResetEra), Spencer says that putting games on Game Pass actually increases sales of the individual game."

""When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game," he said. "Some people have questioned that, but when State of Decay 2 launched, you saw if you looked in the US at the NPD you saw this game selling really well the month it launched on GamePass."


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At some point people will admit to the fact that gamepass has created a scenario where less games are being sold on Xbox. It's ironic because a lot of these very same people can't wait to brag about getting games for "free" and the amount of "value" they are getting.

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
 

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Publishers/developers are going to put their game on Game Pass as long as MS is willing to pay a high enough premium for it. Most people, myself included, have concerns that it will not be sustainable in the long run at the current subscription model/rate but time will tell. That being said, I am playing Hades on Game Pass.
How many games do you pay a year? Month?
 
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Tons of memes on GAF about Playstation owners also owning gaming PCs.

But apparently plenty of Xbox owners own gaming PCs - despite Xbox 'exclusives' being available on both platforms day one 🤔.



Are these not xbox users? As long as they can play xbox games day1, they will be xbox users.

as for windows store, we don't talk about that.
Stop Talking Tonight Show GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
 

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This shit again...

Been playing Hades to death on Gamepass. It's awesome. So's Gamepass. No way I would have bought it because it's not usually my thing, and I would never have known I love it.

Thanks to Microsoft and Supergiant for reaching an agreement they are both happy with to provide it to me at no additional cost. What a time to be alive.
 

Black_Stride

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GamePass increases games sales - except for Hades.

Oh and physical copies are irrelevant - except when we're evaluating the PS5 Digital Edition 😁.

You do know the game released like 3 days ago right?
Phils comments implied word of mouth from Day One Gamepass titles helped said titles gain more sales.

Its been 3 days and we are talking about like 5000 physical copies.

So Steam gamers who happen to buy Microsoft games are now "Xbox users"?

That's a reach.
No, those are factually not Xbox users.

The publisher is Xbox Games Studios and an Xbox Live account is needed for most if not all of them.
So yes you are an Xbox user.
Do you also suppose people who use Xbox Cloud Gaming(xCloud) arent Xbox user because they dont have the physical Xbox console?
 

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You do know the game released like 3 days ago right?
Phils comments implied word of mouth from Day One Gamepass titles helped said titles gain more sales.

Its been 3 days and we are talking about like 5000 physical copies.




The publisher is Xbox Games Studios and an Xbox Live account is needed for most if not all of them.
So yes you are an Xbox user.
Do you also suppose people who use Xbox Cloud Gaming(xCloud) arent Xbox user because they dont have the physical Xbox console?

An account? Really? The bar for being on “Xbox” is incredibly low then. The console might as well not exist, I guess.
 

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So Steam gamers who happen to buy Microsoft games are now "Xbox users"?

That's a reach.
If playstation put their game day1 on steam, I would be a fierce loyal to them. Past is past. Give me that bloodborne on my god damn pc. I want to mod that shit.

Ds3 mods


Now, I am waiting to mod that stardield.
 

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You do know the game released like 3 days ago right?
Phils comments implied word of mouth from Day One Gamepass titles helped said titles gain more sales.

Its been 3 days and we are talking about like 5000 physical copies.
You know the same trends were found with Resident Evil 8 and Hitman right? They've been out longer than three days.

I'm not going to make up a number about the volume of sales though.
 
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bruh I can't download this shit because of 0x800700f1 error and apparently there is still no solution..... It only happens with games you have to download as an administrator....:messenger_face_steam:
 

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bruh I can't download this shit because of 0x800700f1 error and apparently there is still no solution..... It only happens with games you have to download as an administrator....:messenger_face_steam:
According to users, sometimes error 0x8007001F can appear on your PC due to your audio drivers. If your audio drivers are outdated or corrupted, you might encounter this issue. To fix the problem, you need to reinstall your audio drivers

Update your drivers.
 

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According to users, sometimes error 0x8007001F can appear on your PC due to your audio drivers. If your audio drivers are outdated or corrupted, you might encounter this issue. To fix the problem, you need to reinstall your audio drivers

Update your drivers.
thanks i will try
 

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You know the same trends were found with Resident Evil 8 and Hitman right? They've been out longer than three days.

I'm not going to make up a number about the volume of sales though.
Famitsu rated the PlayStation 4 version at first place in the Japanese gaming charts, selling 111,171 copies in a week. The PlayStation 5 version sold 38,713 copies, reaching fourth place in the charts.

That is the Japanese market, where RE8 is kinda home game.

UK is lower than that.


Hitman 3 digital sales. It was much better than physicals.

UK physical charts is low. Its 10k copies sold, which people make it a big deal.

This new chart has 5k copies sold as n1 for godsake.

Playstation would win on the digital sales. That is no contest, due to the ps4+ps5 numbers, compared to xbox numbers.
 

Black_Stride

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An account? Really? The bar for being on “Xbox” is incredibly low then. The console might as well not exist, I guess.
Now you are starting to get it. Its literally the point
Xbox everywhere was literally a thread not too long ago, the actual Xbox console is but one avenue for MS to make you a user of their services.
Xbox Cloud Gaming - Xbox user
Xbox Console - Xbox user
Steam but require Xbox account - Xbox user
TV App but require Xbox account - Xbox user.

To use Xbox Cloud Gaming all you need is an account.....does that mean people who use Xbox Cloud Gaming arent Xbox users?


You are still thinking in archaic terms where unless i physically have the hardware in front of me im not a user.
But thats not how the world works anymore.
If you need to sign up to their services and give them your data you are a sucker user
Oh wow, look at all these playstation users:


You dont need a Playstation Network Account to play any of those games.

Ill ask again are people who play on Xbox Cloud Gaming not Xbox users.

Microsoft literally counts active Xbox Live accounts as active users.
So if you want to play XGS games even on steam and you need their account then you are an Xbox user.
 

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Bingo.

If you start with it is the “same” and end with pointing out the difference then….well….not the same.

This is simple. Look at the hardware you are playing on. Accounts be damned.
What is Xbox currently? A console or a platform?

Whatever your answer is, will let you know whether steam users are part of xbox ecosystem or not.
 
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RE:Village, Scarlet Nexus and many other games were not on Gamepass, yet the results are always eerily similar.
That is because its physical. It will always go toward PlayStation. PlayStation users grow with 2 consoles, which needed physical copies. Compared to xbox, which transitioned to digital super fast.
 
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Now you are starting to get it. Its literally the point
Xbox everywhere was literally a thread not too long ago, the actual Xbox console is but one avenue for MS to make you a user of their services.
Xbox Cloud Gaming - Xbox user
Xbox Console - Xbox user
Steam but require Xbox account - Xbox user
TV App but require Xbox account - Xbox user.

To use Xbox Cloud Gaming all you need is an account.....does that mean people who use Xbox Cloud Gaming arent Xbox users?


You are still thinking in archaic terms where unless i physically have the hardware in front of me im not a user.
But thats not how the world works anymore.
If you need to sign up to their services and give them your data you are a sucker user

You dont need a Playstation Network Account to play any of those games.

Ill ask again are people who play on Xbox Cloud Gaming not Xbox users.

Microsoft literally counts active Xbox Live accounts as active users.
So if you want to play XGS games even on steam and you need their account then you are an Xbox user.

I disagree. You can call it archaic if you want but PC, Xbox, and PlayStation are based in hardware, not accounts. Horizon Zero Dawn is just as much a PC game as it is a PlayStation game. Just as Assassins Creed is. The games listed were on Steam. I don’t care what account you use, those Steam games are being played on a PC.

What is Xbox currently? A console or a platform?

Whatever your answer is, will let you know whether steam users are part of xbox ecosystem or not.

Steam users are not a part of Xbox ecosystem regardless. How is Steam part of Xbox ecosystem when Microsoft is paying royalties to Valve for selling games in the “Xbox ecosystem”? That is just absurd.
 
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Black_Stride

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I disagree. You can call it archaic if you want but PC, Xbox, and PlayStation are based in hardware, not accounts. Horizon Zero Dawn is just as much a PC game as it is a PlayStation game. Just as Assassins Creed is. The games listed were on Steam. I don’t care what account you use, those Steam games are being played on a OC.

I guess Sea of Thieves is an iPad game then?