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Hades UK boxed charts - gamepass data not counted

yazenov

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New to the charts this week is Hades, which lands at No.8 thanks to the game's launch on PlayStation and Xbox platforms. With the box release handled by Private Division, 70% of the game's launch sales were on PS5, 23% on PS4 and 7% on Xbox Series. Of course, many Xbox games will be able to access the game via the Game Pass subscription service, and that data is not counted here.

 

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There's a physical version of Hades?
yes. It is cool figure too. Both sexy cover.

 
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I beat this on Switch way back at launch. Are there major improvements with the PS/XB versions? The game seemed to look and run well on Switch, as I recall.
 
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So, does the gamepass payment exceed the hardcopy sale surrender?
We won't ever be given that information. And, it's hard to say anyways. Some games just sell better or worse on certain platforms. We can't just assume of the game wasn't on GP that an equal percentage of Xbox players would have bought the game outright - could be more or less.
 

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So, does the gamepass payment exceed the hardcopy sale surrender?
It depends on how many copies sold here.

100K copy at 25$ is $2.5m. If MS pays them $10m, that is 400k copies sold. In this case, MS would win, if the game sells overall 200k copies.

Now you also need to add, the xbox sales. 50k sales is $1.25m before the cut. Now that money would add to xbox gamepass money, and Hades devlopers would make more money with xbox, compared to playstation. They will need to sell 400k copies on playstation, if they want to match gamepass money.
 

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Literally nobody has claimed this

True.

Except for the guy who fucking leads Xbox.........

ROFL.


"In a video interview with levelup.com (as pointed out on ResetEra), Spencer says that putting games on Game Pass actually increases sales of the individual game."

""When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game," he said. "Some people have questioned that, but when State of Decay 2 launched, you saw if you looked in the US at the NPD you saw this game selling really well the month it launched on GamePass."

 

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True.

Except for the guy who fucking leads Xbox.........

ROFL.


"In a video interview with levelup.com (as pointed out on ResetEra), Spencer says that putting games on Game Pass actually increases sales of the individual game."

""When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game," he said. "Some people have questioned that, but when State of Decay 2 launched, you saw if you looked in the US at the NPD you saw this game selling really well the month it launched on GamePass."

Where does he say boxed?
 

kingfey

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True.

Except for the guy who fucking leads Xbox.........

ROFL.


"In a video interview with levelup.com (as pointed out on ResetEra), Spencer says that putting games on Game Pass actually increases sales of the individual game."

""When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game," he said. "Some people have questioned that, but when State of Decay 2 launched, you saw if you looked in the US at the NPD you saw this game selling really well the month it launched on GamePass."

So you decided to base this on a freaking box game? Not even mentioning the goddamn digital sales?

Dont know how to take your words here PAL.

With gamepass, you will download the game digital. Play it. If you like it, you will buy it digital. Not a freaking box.

sad today GIF
 

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Bro, come on. 93% on Playstation.

Dont tell me gamepass has no effect on retail.
Again nobody has said it has no effect on retail, since Gamepass is a digital service, it’s likely to push people more towards digital and away from retail, as they use it and get more comfortable with it.

Overall sales aren't affected by whether a person chooses to buy a game digitally or physically though.
 

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Hades is not the kind of game that sells boxed copies. its a classic indie digital title.

The boxed sales gap is odd but I think it's because xbox u.k players buy most of their copies digitally. That ratio simply does not make any sense whatsoever.
 

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True.

Except for the guy who fucking leads Xbox.........

ROFL.


"In a video interview with levelup.com (as pointed out on ResetEra), Spencer says that putting games on Game Pass actually increases sales of the individual game."

""When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game," he said. "Some people have questioned that, but when State of Decay 2 launched, you saw if you looked in the US at the NPD you saw this game selling really well the month it launched on GamePass."

Boxed UK charts, hahahaha:messenger_beaming:
 

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Again nobody has said it has no effect on retail, since Gamepass is a digital service, it’s likely to push people more towards digital and away from retail, as they use it and get more comfortable with it.

Overall sales aren't affected by whether a person chooses to buy a game digitally or physically though.

You also get a 20% discount on the digital version with GamePass. No fucking shit people won't be paying retail.
 

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True.

Except for the guy who fucking leads Xbox.........

ROFL.


"In a video interview with levelup.com (as pointed out on ResetEra), Spencer says that putting games on Game Pass actually increases sales of the individual game."

""When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game," he said. "Some people have questioned that, but when State of Decay 2 launched, you saw if you looked in the US at the NPD you saw this game selling really well the month it launched on GamePass."

The lack of reading comprehension and critical thinking is concerning.

Phil's quote is referring to overall sales and references the US NPD which includes digital sales. When referring to game pass helping sell the included game and/or other games in general, Microsoft is referencing digital sales too. Not UK physical sales only, lol..
 
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Gamepass increases “engagement” and “discoverability”. Everyone seems to have missed the new exec double speak. The whole it helps sales is over, and once it’s exposed the minions will shift to “he said that years ago, why people bringing up old shit? It’s all about-“
 
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Why the fuck would you buy physical when they give you 20% off the digital?

Some people like boxes plus someone could stop subscribing to Gamepass and just want some of its games. Then later down the line there's the possibility of buying a used copy for cheap.

Anyways there's no need to get defensive. What I said was actually something that supports what Phil said.
 
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You also get a 20% discount on the digital version with GamePass. No fucking shit people won't be paying retail.

This is so dumb. The amount of people with gamepass that will buy the game that’s on gamepass… joke worthy.

You get a 20% discount if you already pay for the subscription that gives you access to the game. Man sales must be huge, it’s big brain math go check it out.

Oh and everybody with an Xbox has gamepass of course. Numbers be alien.
 

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Some people like boxes plus someone could stop subscribing to Gamepass and just want some of its games. Then later down the line there's the possibility of buying a used copy for cheap.
Those people wont bother with gamepass. As that goes against what they like. Especially xbox players. If you are xbox player, who has gamepass, your chance of being a physical copy lover is low. Because all 1st party games are on gamepass from now on. You would be bound to digital world that way.

Non xbox gamepass users are more likely to buy Physical games, than those who have gamepass.
 

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Someone made that claim?
No. What they said is people who subscribe to GamePass spend more money overall. Not surprising since a lot of the games that go to the service are Games as a Service with the associated microtransactions and paid dlc.
 
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People are really losing their shit over this?

Any versus thread will play out like this regardless of what the versus comparison is.
Didnt we have a thread on the thermals of the consoles that was multiple pages even if both consoles were well within their working temps.

P.S Hades isnt even in the top 50 most played games on Xbox in the UK so im not shocked the sales werent amazing.
 
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According to some, Xbox game box sales are atrocious... and yet, more and more games are coming to Gamepass as time goes by.
The question remains... Do Neogaf commentators understand more about the gaming business then the developers that sell their games to Gamepass?
 
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True.

Except for the guy who fucking leads Xbox.........

ROFL.


"In a video interview with levelup.com (as pointed out on ResetEra), Spencer says that putting games on Game Pass actually increases sales of the individual game."

""When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game," he said. "Some people have questioned that, but when State of Decay 2 launched, you saw if you looked in the US at the NPD you saw this game selling really well the month it launched on GamePass."


m8, digital. If you have downloaded it already on Gamepass, and get a discount for purchasing Gamepass games, why would you go out and buy the boxed copy..................
 
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According to some, Xbox game box sales are atrocious... and yet, more and more games are coming to Gamepass as time goes by.
The question remains... Do Neogaf commentators understand more about the gaming business then the developers that sell their games to Gamepass?
They understand it, when 1 region with 5k sales as top 1 chart, has 90% on plastic A, and 10% on plastic B.

They dont care about the actual data. Just %. Because actual numbers data, defeats their points.
 

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1- The only people would buy it on Xbox are there people that love the game so much they want to own it, or do not have game pass. Otherwise zero sense to buy it. aka low sales. ( surprised it even sold any copies lol )
2- PS5 fans are starving for good game since there is no game pass ( lol I know cheap shot ) and Ratchet been out for a while so they need a new game to play LOL PS5 No games LOL ehm. anyway


<--- Back to play Ratchet on his PS5.
 

Black_Stride

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They understand it, when 1 region with 5k sales as top 1 chart, has 90% on plastic A, and 10% on plastic B.

They dont care about the actual data. Just %. Because actual numbers data, defeats their points.
Wait its sold 5K?
 

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Gamepass really does increase boxed copies, doesnt it?

/crickets

I knew that was a bunch of garbage.

Why in the world would GamePass increase BOXED sales? Who ever claimed this was the case?

Game comes out physical on Xbox and PS. Xbox users can play without any cost thanks to GamePass. OR, if they play and enjoy it, they can purchase the digital copy they already have installed on their console, at a discount. OR, they can go pay more at retail to have a disc.

Not to mention, PS outnumbers Xbox in the UK by quite a lot. Idk why anyone is ever surprised in these threads.
 

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It depends on how many copies sold here.

100K copy at 25$ is $2.5m. If MS pays them $10m, that is 400k copies sold. In this case, MS would win, if the game sells overall 200k copies.

Now you also need to add, the xbox sales. 50k sales is $1.25m before the cut. Now that money would add to xbox gamepass money, and Hades devlopers would make more money with xbox, compared to playstation. They will need to sell 400k copies on playstation, if they want to match gamepass money.
You think MS is forking out $10 m a pop for every game that comes to Gamepass?